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If I recall correctly, Hall is owed 8.5 million next year, but Milwaukee is paying 7.1 million of it. According to Ken Rosenthal this is a done deal.

And he's also black, in case conspiracy theorists keep alleging Boston's racism. I'm not exactly a Bill Hall fan but I believe that he'll be of more use to us than Kotchman. That said, I'm surprised that we are trading Kotchman before Lowell, in terms of salary relief that is.

I believe so, but if we move Lowell we'd move back under it, however I haven't calculated the exact figures yet.

Here is an interesting data collection from Soxprospects. AMERICAN LEAGUE: 2007-2009, 3B (minimum 500 PAs) AVERAGE AVG 1 Michael Young .322 2 Alex Rodriguez .302 3 Chone Figgins .301 4 Mike Lowell .299 5 Adam Kennedy .289 6 Scott Rolen .288 7 Akinori Iwamura .285 8 Evan Longoria .277 9 Casey Blake .277 10 Melvin Mora .273 *12 Adrian Beltre .269 DOUBLES 2B *1 Adrian Beltre 97 2 Mike Lowell 93 3 Alex Rodriguez 81 4 Alex Gordon 77 5 Evan Longoria 75 6 Melvin Mora 72 7 Chone Figgins 68 8 Casey Blake 60 9 Scott Rolen 59 10 Jack Hannahan 53 EXTRA BASE HITS EBH 1 Alex Rodriguez 201 *2 Adrian Beltre 159 3 Mike Lowell 151 4 Evan Longoria 137 5 Melvin Mora 120 6 Alex Gordon 119 7 Casey Blake 93 8 Chone Figgins 91 9 Brandon Inge 85 10 Scott Rolen 81 GIDP GIDP 1 Mike Lowell 57 2 Melvin Mora 49 *3 Adrian Beltre 48 4 Alex Rodriguez 44 5 Evan Longoria 35 6 Alex Gordon 25 7 Chone Figgins 22 T8 Jhonny Peralta 20 T8 Brandon Inge 20 T10 Casey Blake 17 T10 Joe Crede 17 HOMERUNS HR 1 Alex Rodriguez 119 2 Evan Longoria 60 *3 Adrian Beltre 59 4 Mike Lowell 55 5 Melvin Mora 45 6 Brandon Inge 41 7 Alex Gordon 37 8 Joe Crede 36 9 Josh Fields 30 10 Casey Blake 29 ISOLATED POWER ISO 1 Alex Rodriguez .286 2 Evan Longoria .251 3 Michael Young .196 4 Josh Fields .185 5 Eric Chavez .183 6 Mike Lowell .182 7 Joe Crede .181 *8 Adrian Beltre .175 9 Casey Blake .170 10 Alex Gordon .165 OBA OBA 1 Alex Rodriguez .407 2 Chone Figgins .386 3 Michael Young .374 4 Akinori Iwamura .359 5 Scott Rolen .358 6 Evan Longoria .355 7 Mike Lowell .354 8 Casey Blake .349 9 Adam Kennedy .348 10 Brian Buscher .344 *15 Adrian Beltre .318 RBI RBI 1 Alex Rodriguez 359 2 Mike Lowell 268 *3 Adrian Beltre 220 4 Melvin Mora 210 5 Evan Longoria 198 6 Brandon Inge 155 7 Alex Gordon 141 8 Casey Blake 136 9 Chone Figgins 134 10 Joe Crede 125 RUNS CREATED RC 1 Alex Rodriguez 378 2 Chone Figgins 245 3 Mike Lowell 233 *4 Adrian Beltre 217 5 Melvin Mora 192 6 Evan Longoria 189 7 Alex Gordon 168 8 Casey Blake 142 9 Brandon Inge 131 10 Scott Rolen 124 SECONDARY AVERAGE SEC 1 Alex Rodriguez .479 2 Evan Longoria .381 3 Chone Figgins .301 4 Michael Young .298 5 Alex Gordon .295 6 Josh Fields .287 7 Eric Chavez .280 8 Scott Rolen .272 9 Mike Lowell .272 10 Casey Blake .272 *12 Adrian Beltre .264 STOLEN BASES SB 1 Chone Figgins 117 2 Alex Rodriguez 56 *3 Adrian Beltre 35 4 Alex Gordon 28 5 Adam Kennedy 20 T6 Nick Punto 16 T6 Evan Longoria 16 8 Melvin Mora 15 9 Akinori Iwamura 12 10 Brandon Inge 11 WALKS BB 1 Alex Rodriguez 240 2 Chone Figgins 214 3 Alex Gordon 128 4 Mike Lowell 124 T5 Melvin Mora 118 T5 Evan Longoria 118 *7 Adrian Beltre 107 8 Jack Hannahan 106 9 Brandon Inge 101 10 Casey Blake 87 STRIKEOUTS SO 1 Alex Rodriguez 334 2 Brandon Inge 320 3 Alex Gordon 300 4 Chone Figgins 275 *5 Adrian Beltre 268 6 Evan Longoria 262 7 Jack Hannahan 241 8 Josh Fields 218 9 Melvin Mora 213 10 Mike Lowell 193

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I figured it'd get a post of the year comment from you but damn it. I'll have to try harder.

Do I need to reference Spudboy's English thread? It's You're for god sakes. On that note, I think that Legend, CanadianSox and I should make a thread on proper English spelling rather than its cheap American substitute. We will have an SAP option for Dipre.

That might be the one fight in which nobody intervened. You'd even fill Petco with that kind of attraction. You just don't break up fights like that.

I agree on Gomes, but I would choose him only in the event that there'd be a fight between the Sox and Yankees. Granted, Gomes is no Kyle Farnsworth, but I'm sure he's itching to fight a couple of the Yankees, and if s*** ever did go down, Gomes would probably pay for himself. Although Gomes screams Willy Mo Pena to me.

Boras went from 14 mil/year to 14 mil total. I'm glad we got Beltre and even happier at the price.

Gammons: Beltre 1 yr. Deal for $9m with player option for $5m. Physical coming

That would be a better way to word it, however I was also referring to money; as in "what amount".

It depends on what we can get him for.

God damn it. My teams are now 0-3 vs. Boston recently. I was counting on a Philly win to offset the Jags loss the other week.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tommy-Kelly-loses-pants-wins-game?urn=nfl,210145

I'm talking about who's more valuable for the money we are paying them. Kotchman is still in arbitration whereas Beltre is seeking upwards of 12-13 million AAV. I am confident that the majority see Kotchman as more valuable at roughly 3-4 million than Beltre at 12-13 million. I'm not sure what part of my point you misunderstood, but that's all I was trying to say. I am not saying that Kotchman would be more valuable for THE SAME MONEY, as Beltre, but for the money they are/expecting to receive.

If money wasn't an issue, I'm sure that most people would prefer Beltre at third over Kotchman at first. However, money is obviously an issue, so it seems that given what Beltre wants, most people here believe that Kotchman is a better value for the money, and I agree. But in a vacuum I'd rather have Beltre, and I also think he and Boras will be severely dissappointed come payday.

If we can get Beltre for single digit AAV then I'm for it. I believe this is in terms of run prevention/runs created. Youkilis (3b) 8.6 runs + Kotchman (1b) 4.4 runs = 13 runs Youkilis (1b) 6.5 runs + Beltre (3b) 13.9 runs = 20.4 runs

No Chris Snee?

Because Schaub is maybe a top 3. He's behind Manning and Rivers for sure, and he's maybe behind/ahead of Brady. That makes him "maybe" snubbed.

You mean Polite the running back with 228 career rushing yards and 0 career running touchdowns?