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Do you think we needed one in 2019? Should we have cut salary then? How would you have sold that to the fans? Would you have told DD not to resign Sale and Eovaldi?

Isolated and hard to get along with is a great person to give an open checkbook to.

Because John Henry is a toddler in a suit throwing a tantrum because they didn't make the playoffs last year.

Nah, the Union is more concerned that owners are making more money than ever and the teams are worth more than ever, but salaries are stagnant. I think they are happy for the upper echelon, just want to fix the issues with younger players being drastically underpaid and having their playing time reduced so that a team can hold onto the player's rights longer.

This question is just for Moon and Grady Little, right? No one else would have left him in.

If they made the playoffs, they would still need to reduce payroll? Or just because they didn't make the playoffs. Why would they sign Sale and Eovaldi last year if they wanted to be under the tax this year?

Fencesitters of the world, unite and take over.

Guys, we just won 108 games. Time to blow it up! I remember all those great posts of yours about that last offseason. You were right!

They went 38-43 at home and 46-35 away. In 2018, they went 57-24 at home. You don't think they'll have some positive regression with that home record in 2020 if they keep the same squad? That's a team that needs to be dismantled?

They just won 108 games and the WS the year before.

Did we need one in January 2019?

I agree. It just makes for a very manic fan experience. Lots of rollercoaster seasons.

Except that he just fired the GM because the payroll was over the luxury tax. Henry could have stopped DD from any of those signings if he wanted to, especially the 2019 ones.

For real.

"That's what was needed at the time." I'm going to disagree with you. They should have kept Theo and Tito as they've both had great success elsewhere. Also, no reason to kick them on their way out the door.

Honestly, I think John Henry is a guy who lets other people make decisions and then bitches about them if they don't work out. The prime example is Carl Crawford. JH let Theo go crazy in FA in 2010-2011 offseason. People on here (*cough* *cough* A700) wigged out and thought it was the best thing ever and couldn't stop talking about how great Theo was now because the signings showed that he was ready to play big boy baseball. Everyone was happy until they choked on donkey dick in August and September because of the pitching. The next offseason, they just had to blame someone for the failure so they dumped Theo and Tito and kicked them out the door with amazing pettiness. JH get pissy over comments made on a local radio station, so he called up and ranted about how he wasn't at fault for any of it. It was chicken and beer. It was the Carl Crawford signing WHICH HE WAS AGAINST FROM DAY ONE BECAUSE HE KNEW IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT AND HE ALLOWED THE GM TO MAKE THAT CALL EVEN THOUGH THE GM THOUGHT HE HAD TO FEED THE MONSTER AT THAT TIME. So then they hire Ben to be the GM and don't let him do anything and make him hire a pick yourself up by the bootstraps old school Bobby V as manager. See it was the players and coaches that were at fault for the swoon so let's treat them like garbage to show them who is really in charge. It couldn't be that ownership made a mistake since HE REALLY HATED CARL CRAWFORD EVEN THOUGH HE'S A PLAYER STILL UNDER CONTRACT. We all know what happens next, Bobby V sucks the life out of the team and they have to do a complete teardown a half year after barely missing the playoffs. John Henry just can't take failure even when it's his fault. He doesn't know how to manage and anytime there is a rough patch he just loses it and says f*** it let's throw the baby out with the bathwater. My concern is that he's doing the same thing now. They won 108 games in 2018 with mostly the same squad. They had a WS hangover just like they had in 05 and 14. Big deal. I agree that signalling to the fans that they want to cut payroll is pretty s***** given how much tickets are these days. I don't agree that it affects the offseason moves that Bloom wants/needs to make. John Henry is just a passive aggressive toddler who is going to take his ball and go home to mommy whenever he doesn't win (see Crawford reaction, how he treated the greatest Sox manager of all time, hiring dickhead coach to piss off his players, etc.).

Favorite Sox injuries: taking out the trash sleeping with baby putting cowboy boots on

You think?

Big if true!

No s***?

The Phantom Pennant?

Why would that affect the trade at all?

Why not non tender if you want to DFA? Makes no sense.

Why would the price fall as we get closer to Spring Training? There'd be less arms available at that point and pitchers always get injured.

If you don't understand that saying "the Red Sox have not created a buyer's market" is completely ignorant as to how markets work, then I'm glad I'm not your real estate agent. You're like the house in my neighborhood that hasn't sold for over a year since they are asking for top dollar even though house that needs a complete remodel on the inside. The biggest problem with Price is his age, injury history and salary (just like in the house example). The Sox will only trade Price if the return makes sense. If the Angels (or whoever) only want to pay a certain amount for Price, the Sox will have to decide if it's worth it. The Sox can't just say "well, we have Price but we don't REALLY want to trade him to you" because it wouldn't increase the value of Price in a trade. If they say they want to trade him it has no affect whatsoever on Price's value in the market. Just like how the owners of the house that isn't selling would have no impact on a sale if they said "we're a really motivated seller and we really want to move." The market is the market. If there are other houses/pitchers on the market, a buy may just find another deal they find more preferable. If there is scarcity (as with Price), the value of Price is higher than if there are a lot of comparable pitchers that are available (and it doesn't seem that there are). The Red Sox have not and can not create a buyer's or seller's market. The only way there'd be a buyer's market for Price is if there was a surplus of arms available. There isn't. The fact that the Sox want to shed payroll has no impact on them being able to move Price or as to what the return for a deal would be.