Dipre
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It's not worthless, it's a "support" or "chance" statistic. Not the same thing. And for the record, my whole point is that RBI aren't an accurate reflection of a player's ability at the plate, and they're not, they help to determine how good a player is at A) Situational hitting. B ) The creation of runs. The "type of hitter" thing is not entirely accurate, and it helps bring the value of the statistic down and prove even further that it's a "chance stat". Johnny Damon has drove in over 80 runs four times, and over 90 once, batting leadoff every time except for 2009 with the Yankees. That's a product of the lineup you hit in, and the amount of opportunities you get.
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You're telling me when obstinance trumps logic? Really? Let me put it another way. The amount of runs you can drive in is directly tied to the amount of runners you find on base, so how can something directly related to a variable be a good measure of a hitter's ability? Why, instead of looking at RBI's, you don't look at a player's actual situational hitting statistics? Logic, a term you used yourself, would dictate that the correct way to measure a player's production in regards to situational hitting are his overall numbers, not a "chance" stat like RBI.
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In all honesty, this makes no sense. The best way to help sell your brand is to win games, which Drew helps the Sox do, stay out of controversy, which Drew helps the Sox do. How much a player makes really has no impact on how people see the brand as a whole. I think you're alone in this one. Do you know Drew personally? You're making an assesment based on what you see on t.v. You can't judge his "passion" for the game because he doesn't show "emotion", that's stretching to the point of breaking. Ok, you don't like Drew. Moving on. Who would you rather have in RF? Don't doubt it. He's one of the best defensive RF's in the game, and was one of the most productive offensive OF's in the game in both 2008 and 2009. The stats back that statement up. The only knock on Drew is his inability to stay on the field consistently, but when he's playing, he's upper-tier talent. Don't know how you can contend against that.
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You really think so? :thumbsup:
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But Drew sucks.
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That's about the size of it. It's not a good measure of a hitter's ability. Did you click your heels?
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Click your heels and say "There's not stat like RBI, there's no stat like RBI". Maybe then it'll stop being a support stat.
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RBI's a stat of chance. Try to spin it more please.
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He's not the best, hands down. Some other eight hitters might get more RBI's. And you know RBI's are the stuff of legend.
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Under what grounds you make this claim? You don't like "The way he plays?" that has absolutely no bearing on what determines whether or not he's worth his contract: Production. Chemistry? How exactly do you measure the "chemistry" of the team, and how does Drew "not help it"? Shoving traveling secretaries and getting into fights with teammates f***s up chemistry. Putting their head down, shutting their mouths and playing the game is what players are supposed to do, and it helps team chemistry, or at least so it would logically seem. And all of this is just baseless conjecture. Sorry, not buying it. There is no option. How can you so confidently talk about a player's value if you don't know the details of his contract?
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Unfair. The bad things always outweigh the good things in people's minds.
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Two exceptions to this: Joe Mauer and Albert Pujols. Interestingly enough, Mauer burned us twice yesterday because of Francona's reluctance to "be a coward".
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That is f***ing hilarious. Good find.
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Excellent thread. Drew sucks!!111!!!!111.
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The contract they offered Bay had a club escape clause, not language like the Lackey contract. The way i see it (baseless conjecture alert) the player they really wanted was Holliday, but when he balked at their 5-year offer, they went quickly after Lackey to avoid letting the Yanks or Mets enter the fray.
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Arm-chair smartass manager.
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My God V-Mart.
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The brittle pitcher signed a contract with protection language for the team. Bay was offered the same type of contract but he declined the offer, if they're only "hiding" behind the medical records, why would they offer a contract with club protection?. The only reason for you not to believe the FO in this case is because of the use of "Gom logic" which translates to either no logic at all, or ignoring obvious facts.
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Life from Ortiz. Good to see.
