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I wonder if Manny woulda tweaked something before the Halliday game. :dunno:

Their collapse notwithstanding, the yankees still have a chance to impact the post-season via head-to-head games with the playoff contenders. Some might argue that this is the only way the yankees were involved in the playoff scenario at all in 2008. :dunno:

soooooey.

I think he's speculating, sarcastically or not, tha the FO has an excuse to run him outta town. If there were a viable and affordable replacement I'd wonder myself. Of course the Lowe comparison can't be validated at this point...Lowe was a well-known man-whore about town...I've not heard anything of the sort with respect to Varitek.

Exactly...yet they don't, IMO, seriously contend for a title with either of them this year, so the future is now. As a non-GB fan I can say I like that approach. If I were a GB fan? Not so sure.

I'm at a concert last night....my buddy has a shirt with a small Sox logo on it. Girl walks up and says "Red Thox Thuck" as she lights her cigarette and throws down her shot of tequila. We laugh our asses off...she says something about Buckner...we laugh even more. The infatuation of some Yankee fans with all things Sox is simply undeniable.

Mike and the Mad Dog program has been blasting GB for looking to the future, saying they should have simply made Favre their strarter immediately once he decided to come back. I applaud them for having the balls to look ahead, not behind. They were not going to be better than last year with Favre...he's decent, he's experienced, but he is aging and I suspect it'll be somewhat more apparent this year. At the same time, they're not going to win it with Rodgers this year either, IMO. He needs time to learn how to be an effective full time NFL QB. Gonna be a rough year in cheeseland, but I think they're doing the right thing here.

They don't need to....they've won 26 world titles...just ask one of 'em.

Ya really think Favre is going for a ring? With the Jets?

It's gotta be done quickly because he'll need to get into camp, learn the offense, etc. Even though he's a veteran, he can't some in 2 weeks before the season starts and expect to be effective...any deal will happen very quickly. Good for the Pack, looking to the future. Obviously they don't think they contend with Favre this year. Doesn't mean they contend with Rogers either, but at least they admit that they'll be Favre-less at some point and they'll move ahead, not giving in to the whims of fans who have big nostalgic woodies for Brett.

That's cuz it's getting to be crunch time and Nathan, IMO, does not have what it takes come crunchtime. Not sure what the stats say, but if I recall, didnt' he have a chance to keep the 2004 series against the Yankees going but walked a bunch of guys. I believe the Yanks rallied 3 times for comeback wins in that series and Nathan and Rincon both were part of the Twins demise.

Only if you love him long time, joe.

This would be a great opening for the Good Old Southern Boy to come back and post.

I think they've got quite a bit coming off the books, including ther following: Furcal $13m+ Penny $8.5 (team option) Lowe $10m Nomar $8.5m Berroa $5.5m (team option) Casey Blake $6m Kent $9m (team option) If I'm right, assuming no options were picked up, that's approx. $61m coming off...but leaves a lot of holes (SS, 3B, 2 SPs), a prick (Kent) and a guy with a mangina (Nomar)

This "Manny wanted to stay" ******** was just as calculated as the rest of the Manny saga we've seen over the last month or so. They floated this out there as soon as a deal had been reached just to make Manny not look like such an ingrate.

That's a possibility and some will fall into the trap of evaluating the trade based on what Manny does in L.A. vs what Bay does here. Also, some will evaluate the trade based upon whether the Sox and/or the Dodgers make the playoffs, and, if so, how far they go in the playoffs. But here's the thing, IMO: L.A. Manny does not equal Boston Manny. The L.A. Manny is a guy who just got his way, albeit by whining his way out of town, and now needs to finish out the season doing what he does best...hit...then seek the biggest payday possible when he declares for FA. Boston Manny is, or would have been, a guy who was bent out of shape over not getting his way, doesn't care about the team, and quite possibly would have laid down, maybe even dragging down teammates, for the remainder of the season. The Red Sox put up with a lot from Manny, because he could hit. Many of us in these forums deplored Manny's behavior at times, but voiced that we live with it because he hits and helps the team win, that is when he's dialed into the program. Clearly, for the Sox to have chosen now to move him, things must have deteriorated tremendously, so the FO got SOMETHING for him...and that something was Bay, a guy who the Sox, maybe, can still win with. In my estimation this trade has to be evaluated based upon an assumption...and that assumption is that, with a fairly high probability, Boston Manny would have been much less valuable over the remainder of 2008 than he'd been at any time in his Red Sox tenure, anytime in his entire career, considering all elements of his presence (i.e. his complaining, potential feigning of injury, not hustling, taking days off when a tough pitcher was facing the Sox, etc.)...that's the Manny that needs to be compared to Bay. The FO did what they had to do.

Watch tonight's game. First time Bay comes to the plate he will get a solid ovation. REAL fans try and make it easier for their team's players to succeed..at least initially...rather than harder.

Holy s***, Gom...are you flirting with ORS? Seems you posted something very similar in the last day or two. This is getting weird.:stop:

I believe Bay is under contract for $7.5m in 2009.