TheKilo

Suns will pick after flynnatic, and yrtb can pick after him if he wants in

No trading of picks or players 2. What officially happens when a person is skipped? (ie the next person can pick, but what happens when it's that person's turn again and they still have a pick to make up?) Yes, the person makes the pick upon re-entering the thread 3. What will the process be to determine who has the best team (granted, we don't need to know that now) Some kind of vote, well figure it out 4. Can we message each other our picks and have the other poster make our pick in the event that we will be out when it's our turn? Excellent point, a proxy system should absolutely be used in those cases. I encourage everyone to send a regular a list of your picks if you are going to be away. Edit: 5. Should we also have a "Clubhouse" Thread where we can post our teams in a consolidated fashion (ie each person posts their teams as they are being constructed, rather than having to sift through however many pages this thread turns out to be) Good call, start it up

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Here are the participants for the Talksox Anti-Fantasy Football League, or the TSAFFL: TheKilo - BP Spillers YH213 Italstallanion - Erin Andrews Likes it Raw JasonBay44 Coco's Disciples Boston22407 Redsoxfanforlife305 - ChargersBolts Flynnatic WhiskeyBreath suns - For the Win Y228 msubulldogs Youker20 Here is the draft order, chosen randomly by a random number generator: Redsoxfanforlife305 Italstallanion TheKilo JasonBay44 Y228 Boston22407 WhiskeyBreath Youker20 msubulldogs YH213 Coco's Disciples Flynnatic suns yrtb Divinity Below are the draft rules/regulations: 1. RSFFL will officially be on the clock at 8:00 PM EST on Tuesday, September 14, 2010. At that time, he is free to make the first selection of the draft. Please do not make the selection until 8:00 PM. 2. Each subsequent pick will have a drafting window of 12 hours. In other words, Should RSFFL make his pick exactly at 8:00 PM, Italstallanion will have twelve hours to make his pick. 3. The draft clock will be suspended from 12:00 midnight to 8:00 AM every day. In other words, if RSFFL makes his pick at exactly 8:00 PM tonight, Italstallanion will have until 4:00 PM TOMORROW to make his selection. The clock stops at 12:00 AM and restarts at 8:00 AM. 4. We will be drafting the following positions: QB HB (2) WR (4) TE RT RG C LG LT DE (2) DT (1 or 2, depending on 3/4 or 4/3 defense) OLB (2) ILB (1 or 2, depending on 3/4 or 4/3 defense) CB (2) FS SS K P KR PR 5. Please look at the chart in the second post to see what players have been drafted before you make your selection. 6. At the conclusion of the exercise, we will vote on the best team. 7. Please bold your selection and specify position. Good luck to all! If you have any questions feel free to ask.

Sorry guys, crazy weekend. Draft thread will be up shortly.

Any others? I'm planning on setting draft orders tomorrow. Any last second entrants welcome - BSN07, Emmz, ORS...

Probably because he was 49er fan growing up and lives in California. Good deal for the Pats, although the AAV might be a little higher than they would have liked, especially iftbe salary cap comes back in the new CBA.

I take Drew because there is a very reasonable chance he rebounds to an .850 OPS all while playing excellent defense in one of the most difficult right fields in baseball. Ortiz offers nothing but his bat.

Three years is an excellent compromise.

Yes, obviously. I would dump him for pennies on the dollar but include him in a package with Kelly and I think you can get real value back. And to those who think speed is going to be such a crucial part of the game, I couldn't disagree more. Power hitting and power pitching will always reign supreme.

I'll join if more people do the Anti-Fantasy NFL league

I was thinking that but I also think part of the fun of the MLB one was picking and making the case for younger, less proven players. If most don't want that, we won't have that but I think it's one of the better parts of the exercise.

Have to bow out sorry guys

I think it has to be otherwise it's like another fantasy league.

Jacoby Ellsbury is the most overrated player the Ded Sox have and I think it would serve their best interests to trade him this offseason. Speed is overrated.

Sweet deal consider yourselves in. I'll keep it open for another day or so and over the weekend I'll set up the draft order. I'm thinking starting next Monday is the best option. Thoughts? Please keep in mind that this draft IS NOT A ONE DAY THING. it will take quite a while to complete.

No, you look at the value overall. E1 is right, he's been worth the money during his entire tenure looking at it overall. I disagree with him when he says those who defend Drew overstate his abilities. Truth is, all I'm doing is showing that he HAS been worth the $14 million per and that he's not overpaid. When he has good seasons, should he be paid more? Last year, could you not make the case that he could have been paid $18 million and it would have been worth it? $20 million? No one ever looks at it in that light.

A look atthe Pats from an outsider perspective: Truth be told, I see the ceiling for this team to be ten wins. Their offense is legitimate and every time you have #12 in the backfield playing for you you're going to have a chance, but it just seems there are too many holes to plug for this team to be a legitimate contender. Their receiving corps are among the best in the league and they'll get enough production out of their RBs, but they're razor thin at the OL position. With this defense, Brady is going to be throwing the ball A LOT and I'd be worried about him taking some shots from opposing defenses. There still is not pass rush to speak of and while Spikes/Mayo have the makings of a solid ILB corps, the fact that Tully Banta Cain is their best pass rusher has to be worrisome. The secondary has talent but they're very young with the injury to Bodden and will be exposed due to the lack of QB pressure. Also, their schedule is absolutely brutal. I think talent ways they're a 10 win team, but injuries, flaws, and the schedule will prove damning. My brain says 8-8 but Brady will steal one...I'll go 9-7, which still might be good enough in that division.

Ok posting from my phone, but so far we have: TheKilo - BP Spillers YH213 Italstallanion - Erin Andrews Likes it Raw JasonBay44 Coco's Disciples Boston22407 Redsoxfanforlife305 - ChargersBolts Flynnatic WhiskeyBreath suns - For the Win Y228 msubulldogs Youker20 That's a decent pool of people but I'd like to try to get a few more in...I'm thinking we can start the drafting at some point this weekend. Like the baseball one, I'll make the draft order and tables and well go from there.

The Mets are way way too top heavy. Their farm system sucks and when starters went down (a la Beltran) they had no capable replacements. When Pedroia goes down, the Sox have Lowrie, etc. By the way, how right on was Theo about not re-signing Jason Bay?

You miss the point of the league - this is not a fantasy draft but rather an exercise in building the best team. A team to win the SB now but also have the best team five years from now. It places more emphasis on roster construction than any fantasy league ever could. Go look through the archives and find the baseball one we did last year.

RSFFL, why nit bring your Chargers fan expertise to this exercise?

And there's no way the Sox go through the rash of injuries they have this year for the second year in a row. I mean, seriously, this team would have had a shot at 100 wins with a completely healthy team...as it is I thik they threaten 95. I'd be perfectly comfortable making another run with this same team next year.

In as the BP Spillers There's no other regular posters who would be interested in something like this? Spudboy, Coco's Disciples, ORS?