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Blame comes with the territory. If they truly have no effect on the outcome of the games and the batting order is similarly meaningless, then the manager is largely irrelevant and a trained monkey could do their jobs. If they are irrelevant to the outcome of a season, no manager should make more than the league minimum. And certainly we never should have had to make a trade to acquire our manager. I think managers would prefer to take the big 7 figure salaries and the blame that comes with those salaries.

He stinks and we overpaid for him.

Hanigan looks shot.

Which plays into my argument that none of these bozos should be making millions. If they have so little impact, they should make the league minimum, and teams should discard them like tissue paper. But yet people argue over whether the manager should be fired. It makes no difference who is in the dugout with the lineup card. Hand it to a trained monkey. At last they would be cute and entertaining. The combined brain power of the 30 MLB managers can generate about as much power as 2 hamsters running on wheels.

If Farrell and even my all-time favorite Red Sox manager, Tito had to think 50 -200 times a game, each game would be a week long. LOL!!

Genius? Being right doesn't make one a genius. You are often right.

Pure nonsense flows from your fingertips. I was comparing and contrasting a manger's late inning management when a team top starter is throwing a shutout. The pitcher is interchangeable with about 50 or more starting pitchers under the circumstances.

They gutted out that victory. Every win is a beautiful thing.

This offense is dead.

The guy is an empty shell. There really is no reason to keep him. Blind guys could hit a beeping ball better than him.

Farrell did not stop the bleeding. He let the inning spiral out of control. His team lost the game. He gets paid to know when to pull the trigger and get the starter out of the game. He is supposed to apply his knowledge of the his pitcher taking into account the game situation. He is not paid to apply a formula that tells him when to take out the pitcher. In that case, we could replace Farrell with a trained monkey.

No I did not, but nice try.

The only way we can know definitively if a move is the right move is if it works. If a move works and has the desired outcome, it can never be considered to be wrong, because it worked. If it doesn't work, it can be up for debate whether an alternate move would have worked.

There are certain outliers. On the bad side, you have Hobson who was a drugged up moron. On the good side you have Sparky Andersen, Earl Weaver and LaRussa. Everyone else is in between, so I would lump Farrell and Tito and Grady and Joe Morgan and Johnny Mac all together. To me they are basically interchangeable regarding their effect on the standings.

lol!!

If they are fluctuating between +2 and -2 from year to year, they are not worth much at all.

But are managerial results consistent? I doubt it.

Benintendi will probably be on the bench as the Seattle pitcher is left-handed.

I am enjoying this season. It is nice to have meaningful games in August as opposed to the last 2 seasons.

I have seen estimates ranging from +/- 2 to 5 games. Since their impact is negligible, why do they get paid so much. No manager is worth millions/year. And why is there such reluctance to fire them. It seems to me that they can be discarded like tissue paper without it making much of a difference.

That is his World Series. LOL!!!

You know my opinion of managerial intelligence. BTW I have heard and read various estimates of the value that a manager brings to a team. What is the "consensus" as to how many wins a good manager is worth?

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it is perfect logic. I can't help that you can't process it. The team lost so Farrell's moves didn't work. What we don't know for sure is whether the team would have won if he had gone to the pen earlier. We do know that the outcome could not have been worse if he had. We also saw demonstrated last night the proper way to manage the late innings. A single by the #9 hitter prompted the Seattle manager to go to the pen with a 3-0 lead in the 8th inning with 1 out and iwakima was at 97 pitches. He didn't let circumstances spin out of control.

The Seattle manager managed the end of the game the way it should have been managed. With one out in the 8th inning with his pitcher hurling a shutout and at 97 pitches in a 3-0 game, he yanked the starter after the #9 hitter got a base hit. He didn't wait for the game to get out of hand. His bullpen had a margin for error which it needed and they locked down the win. It was the antithesis of what Farrell did the night before when he gave away the game. Maybe the dope took some notes.