It is interesting to note that while I have disagreed with the FO on several occasions, I have almost always attributed my disagreement to the fact that I as a fan have interests that do conflict with those on the business side of the decisions. I have never thought they were dumb. This is a different sort of criticism, but I give you credit for putting it on the line. You think keeping Papelbon and Ortiz for $25 million would be dumb. I disagree with you, but it is a valid opinion, and only time will tell who is right. Too many people who echo the same sort of opinion about Papelbon and Ortiz are afraid to openly disagree with the FO, so they assume that the FO will only keep these guys if they get a discount or there is some other rationalization. I am curious how many others would not keep Papelbon and Ortiz in 2011 for a total of $24 million? I am curious if it would still be dumb to you and others if the price tag would be $22 million or $20 million. At what price would you keep these guys?