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So, you can't explain it.
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Do you know what is in his contract? Most players listen to the team and the doctors. You are putting too much responsibility on the athlete to meet you view of social awareness. Very judgmental on your part. Sale putting off his surgery as some show of selflessness would have been as meaningless to the cause as wearing a ribbon to support the cause.
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How about the employer's who direct and pay for the healthcare of the athletes?
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Not true.
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From each according to his ability to each according to his needs?
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And bad PR doesn't matter (especially in a crisis) except to those who might get hurt by it. If it doesn't matter to them, the bad PR is meaningless.
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Good, the bad look is on the Red Sox management. Apparently, they didn't care. Their PR game has been slipping lately. We agree that it doesn't reflect on the athletes, regardless of their wealth.
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And the decision makers responsible to enforce their own definitions let him get the surgery deciding it didn't need to be postponed. The Red Sox and the Mets, who are the employers wanted the surgeries. The difference of opinion is not whether it is an elective surgery. The difference of opinion from my point of view is whether it is a "bad look" for the athletes. I think that it in no way reflects on them. The doctors and their employers are calling these shots.
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Disagree. Whether he can retire or not is no one's business.
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But they did the surgeries and the hospital didn't object. Their employers didn't object, so I wouldn't put any of this burden on the athlete as their healthcare is contractually under the direction of their employers. If Trump-hating John Henry and Fred Wilpon don't care about the possible negative PR, I don't think it is a bad look for the athletes. If it bothers you that much, boo Sale when he returns. Maybe the Red Sox can develop a nice virtue-signaling ribbon for the coronavirus that they can sell on the MLB store.
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Each case should get determined on its own. Maybe your wife's surgery was going to use resources that the hospital was going to redeploy for Coronavirus care. Dr. Andrews probably has his own team of nurses and anesthesiologists that would not be working with Coronavirus patients. In that case, delaying those surgeries would be pointless virtue signaling for PR purposes --- but isn't this what the Left excels at?
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There is no indication that precious and scarce resources are being used. Goodness, so dramatic. As for the double hernia operation, yeah depending on the severity and the possibility of whether it could strangulate, those surgeries should probably be performed.
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What if it wasn't Chris Sale or Syndegaard? Let's say it is a kid in AA who is 23 years old looking at 2 years of recovery at best. He's supposed to sacrifice his livelihood? He has no education or training outside of baseball. He only knows how to throw a baseball. I am sorry, but that isn't elective surgery.
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12 "super-human" athletes of the last 50 years
a700hitter replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Other Sports
It is definitely a close call, and obviously very different types of boxers. I give Mayweather the nod because he maintained his level of excellence for so long. -
12 "super-human" athletes of the last 50 years
a700hitter replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Other Sports
Mayweather fought until age 40 and still no one could hit him. That's just incredible. -
I have the Red Sox schedule loaded into my phone calendar. Every day it is depressing to get the alerts about the start of the scheduled games that have been cancelled.
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We will have to see if their guidelines track the Wikipedia definition.
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You probably need to know what definition the hospital uses.
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Yeah, before the surgery, they retired and moved on and led there lives often with an arm that did not function properly. Johnny Unitas elbow healed improperly to the point where later in life his right hand was like a claw and he couldn't even hold a pen. Just because 50 years ago the surgical procedure didn't exist doesn't mean that it isn't a medical necessity today and in fact an emergency to preserve a career. They didn't have angiograms and heart stent procedures 50 years ago either, you went home and took nitroglycerin when you got a chest pain.
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Exactly, I don't think a surgeon, a hospital or the Red Sox would violate a Governor's executive order because Chris Sale asked. It had to be approved.
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I didn't say how I felt about money talking, so don't project any emotion onto me. I am just pointing out that is fruitless goal to worry about sending the message that money talks. It always has and it always will, in every society since their was money. I am just acknowledging reality.
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And somehow it was performed. I have no problem with it, and an orthopedic surgeon could make the case that it was an emergency because if it healed wrong it could result in irreversible damage. What qualifies as an emergency? If I have a bullet lodged in my leg that will not kill me, is it elective surgery to have it removed? Am I supposed to let it heal over and walk around with the bullet in my leg? With these TJ's, the worst case scenario is that it is a grey area. It really shouldn't cause anyone any angst, but people always need to be pissed off about something.
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We wouldn't want to give the wrong impression to people about money talking.
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People can differ on this issue, but a surgery needed for you to perform your livelihood is not elective surgery unless you are intending to retire, and maybe not even then, because if this issue isn't addressed with surgery and the tears heal incorrectly, your normal functioning could be permanently impaired. This wasn't a face-lift, a tummy tuck, a gastric bypass, or even a knee or hip replacement. This directly affected his livelihood and the normal function of his arm. Imo, it wasn't elective.
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From what I understand, the Astros sign stealing was the worst kept secret in baseball. I don't understand why it became the subject of a huge investigation. Sign stealing has been going on for forever. yes, the Astro's employed modern technology, but the banging of the garbage can tipped off pitchers that something was going on. I don't understand why the game just didn't police itself. If Astros batters started getting buried at the plate, it would have stopped.
