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We're still waiting for things to change direction. His velocity has been deteriorating.

If the plan was to convert an elite late inning bull pen guy into a capable, but average 5th starter, they have succeeded. I don't think that is a good plan.

He would really help stabilize their starting pitching. He would bring some legitimacy to them as a contender.

Neither have I. In fact, I said in a prior post that his skill level falls just short of major league standards. He doesn't miss by much, but he misses.

He couldn't put away Davis with 2 strikes and a runner on 3rd. That spoke volumes to me. Davis would miss a ball on a tee 40% of the time. He's a 200 k/ season guy. Bard couldn't reach back for something and blow him away to keep the run from scoring.

So, this is what they were looking for-- no progress or improvement over 10 starts, diminishing command and diminishing velocity with each start? Do you really think this was the blueprint?

He is proving himself to be capable of being a serviceable #5 pitcher, but absent are the flashes of brilliance, the stuff, or the progress toward being anything more.

There's no Catch 22. If you are good enough, you stick in the majors.

Nava is certainly making the most of this opportunity, which he has to know will be his last. He definitely has good batting skills. The question is whether he will hit so well as to overcome his complete lack of major league tools and talent. He has little power, little speed, and he is an adequate fielder at best. He's fighting like hell to stick with the team, and he is bringing life and enthusiasm to the team. I am rooting for him in a big way, but he remains a long shot IMO.

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Some on this forum have speculated that the Red Sox owners are positioning themselves to sell the team. Well, this morning there is a huge rumor in NY that Hank Steinbrenner is considering selling the Yankees. The sports writer with the scoop, Madden is very plugged into the Yanks and the Steinbrenners. He wrote Steinbrenners biography. While it wasn't authorized by the Steinbrenners, George's daughter encouraged him to write the book and they did cooperate. He says that Hank believes that the value of the franchise is as high as it is going to get and that it is time to cash out. I believe the problem may be finding a buyer. This is a bombshell of a story.

It's obvious why I didn't mention Adam Jones. He is one of the two good hitters in the O's lineup yesterday- the other being Markakis. Jones is good and getting better. Bard should have approached yesterday's game with the attitude that he wasn't going to let Jones or Markakis beat him and that he owned everyone else. Instead he is walking 4 guys, hitting another and he fed Nick Johnson a cookie. He did keep his team in the game against a weak lineup and he went 5 innings. That's the positive side of the ledger. On the negative side, yesterday he again showed that he is simply not developing as a starter. There has been no progress or improvement. If the long range plan with this conversion was to take a top end of game reliever-- a real weapon and turn him into a serviceable #5 starter, they have succeeded. He is a serviceable #5, and he is showing no signs that he is has the capability of being any more than that. If that was the plan, it was a very poor plan. We could have gotten a serviceable #5 elsewhere cheaply and easily. I thought the idea was to convert a special bullpen arm into a special starter. That appears to be a failure. I expected bumps in the road in this conversion-- painful games where he would get lit up, but I also expected some flashes of exceptional potential. I have not seen any instances of that. I expected that he would have exceptional stuff-- a 95 MPH heater and a devastating slider. He has had very ordinary stuff. I expected that there would be slow but discern able improvement and progression. There has not been any of that either. They will continue this experiment mainly because it takes Cherries a long time to make decisions, but he is just wasting time on this experiment. I fear it will end with Bard on the DL.

Without Wieters and Hardy, the O's did not put out a very good lineup. In fact, it was a pretty crappy lineup. The bottom 3 were hitting under .200 at the start of the game. Betemit sucks and Davis struck out 6 times in a game at Fenway earlier this year. This was not an impressive outing in any manner.

And you call others stupid?

He is not a starter. Today's Oriole lineup was their B lineup without Witers or Hardy. Yet, he still walked 4 and hit a batter. You don't get away with that against the A lineup

You still can. I read that Enzyte really works.

Drew Sutton has 2 RBI for tampa

A strikeout?

4 walks, a hit batter, and 0 k's in 4 innings.