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Madson signed a 1 year contract for $6 million with an option and a $2.5 million buyout, so we wouldn't be too much further up the creek. We are paying Bailey $4 million and we aren't going to get much use out of him either. They are projecting August or September for his return. Mortensen stinks. He tops out at 87 with his fastball. Melancon stinks too. These are viable garbage time arms -- nothing more. They are last guy out of the pen caliber right before you have to use a position player. I'm aware of the anomaly of of Melancon's good half season and his dominating AAA career, but he is generally a bust. Also, he didn't come for free, so this is not in line with the Tampa model. He came at the cost of a cheap infielder with a good stick who could start for most teams when healthy.

He's not a horse face.

He doesn't get all of the blame, but he gets partial blame. Just because a deal looks good at the time doesn't mean that he is not accountable when it turns out to be bad. That's just not the way it works. He made the deals and they blew up. He's accountable. It doesn't matter how good the deals looked when they were made. The opposing GM's are patting themselves on the back and rightly so. They got the better of those deals. Other than the Cody Ross acquisition, he has done almost nothing right. I said it over and over before the season started that starting the season with two rookies in the rotation was a recipe for failure. You can go with one guy and there should be a decent contingency plan, but two is just ensuring failure. We have done alright with Doubs, but Bard was a total failure and embarrassment and they ruined him. With the way our top 3 has pitched we are very luck that Doubs has performed. If he had bombed along with Bard like Hughes and Kennedy had bombed for the Yanks in 2008, we'd be buried in last place far behind Toronto.

This is true. Time and again Cherington and bobby V repeated that they were happy with their pitching going into the season. That had me completely baffled, because it was obviously tin and deficient. I think that was just a cover story for consumption by the press. Did they think the fans were so stupid as to buy such an obviously false story? It is instances like this that cause me to never trust any statements from the FO or stories based on FO sources. They are manipulating the story to their advantage-- many times with little semblance of truth or accuracy.

Padilla should just call Tex a horse-faced *******. That should end the matter. Tex would have no comeback to that, because that fact is not even debatable.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that any time the division is out of reach that the Sox should give up. At least, I am not suggesting that. However, I believe that this team is so poorly constructed that it doesn't have what it takes to go deep into the offseason. Therefore, I would be reluctant to be a buyer at the trading deadline. Getting back Ellsbury, Pedroia and Crawford (I'll believe it when I see it) will be great, but they don't pitch. Until our top 3 pitchers start pitching like a top 3, I don't think we can compete with the top teams. I am dubious that Lester and beckett will turn things around. If our pitching was solid and we had a couple of aces, I would be all for being buyers and going for the wild card. I have been criticized for a win now mentality, so supporting the team being in sell mode is against my usual preference and philosophy. I just don't see much hope for this team in the post season. We'd likely be out in 1 game or quickly in the ALDS round. If Lester and Beckett come out of the ASB dealing like top of the rotation guys, that would go a long way towards changing my opinion.

Yes, he makes a lot of money to perform. He should have an ounce of pride.

That's pretty good. I wouldn't have expected that you would find anything like that.

Unfortunately, they need to get the trade value up a few of these slugs.

Hershiser came pretty close to directly questioning AGon's commitment, so it's not just me. He played the game, and he was pretty damn good. His nickname was Bulldog. He probably never left a game for a flu/cold/shits whatever.

I really hope that it is a had cold/flu for AGon and not a stomach flu. I'm thinking of the trainers. They would rather wipe his nose... no?

How many swings and misses has Salty had this weekend? Unbelievable!

^ This. A million times this^.:thumbsup:

If my Dad saw AGo run, he would just call hi a lard ass. He used to call Boomer Scott a lard ass, and he could run laps around AGon. He certainly looks out of shape, and he is one of the slowest runners on the Red Sox. Maybe Orlando Cepeda was slower, but he had two very bad post-op knees when we got him.

Tito was lucky that he got off this sinking ship.

We're good.

I was cool with what you were saying even though I disagree completely with your point of view on this particular issue. I think I should be able to disagree with you on this. Listen, there was huge issue about apathy on last year's team. I think some people see a carryover from last year. I know that I do. I think that is a legitimate opinion. I also think it really doesn't look good for AGon to take himself out of the game without being injured. That is also a legitimate opinion in light of the questions about the heart of this team. Finally, A GFY even with a wink just ain't cool.

If you don't like it then leave, but don't attack me personally.

This kid Ciriaco has to stick. He does everything right, and he is spectacular at many things. I am still impressed with the execution of his bunt yesterday. That was one of the best bunts I have seen from a Red Sox player in year. Let him push all the prima donas. Let the press gather around his locker and ignore all the malcontents who think they owe no one anything.

So this is okay then. GFY. ;)

You don't know me so don't characterize. Okay? Have I insulted you in this exchange? Back off with the personal s***. If you don't like my opinions about the Red Sox, fine, but don't attack me.