He Hate Me

This is just sour grapes BTW. LA has no case whatsoever.

Tigers extended his contract for 2 more years plus the one remaining. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/11/10/sheffield.tigers/index.html thoughts? All 3 prospects seem to have pretty good K/9 IP ratios. Dont really see anyone of them that makes me second guess this deal. I'm very happy with it. Sheff is a monster, but he's very temperamental and someone who isn't focused on things like moving the runner.

I need a few more people for my league. Draft is TONIGHT 10PM EDT. LIVE DRAFT. League Number: 35321 League Password: 123456

why would the Sox trade Senor Clutch for Senor "let's see how long i can pout cuz my manager moved me down the order for stinking it up after i opened my big fat yap to SI"

uneffingreal. Derek Jeter is forbidden from even flying a model airplane

I was stunned to hear this news. My heart goes out to his family, specially the 7 year old kid. On the flip side, though, I have to admit that I was thinking this is the Yankees fault for not beating the Tigers, because Corey would not have been flying if we were still in the playoffs. I know its crass, but in some way the Yankees' pathetic showing in the ALDS caused the death of Corey Lidle. You may flame me now, I won't blame you. I'm just telling you the truth. RIP Corey, sorry we couldn't win it for you.

Got my money in the mail!! Woo Hoo. Thanks to everyone who participated and ESPECIALLY to SFOC for his generosity once again!!

Clemens "denial" wasn't exactly the best in the world. All he talks about is that he's never been caught, never for one minute DENIES taking steroids. I was never a big Clemens fan to begin with, and I'm notjust saying that because he's been outed. I always thought he came off very fake sometimes. Now Andy Petite, wow, as a Yankee fan, that's very disheartening to hear. When you hear guys like Sheff and Giambi's name, it really doesn't matter because they weren't part of that championship core. I guess it would be akin to a Red Sox fan finding out that uh Pedro was on steorids while with the Red Sox. I'm not saying Andy's Pedro in temrs of his contributions to his former team, but the place the man holds in a lot of Yankee fans' hearts makes this very very hard to take.

That's sick. I really mean that. Arod batting 6th...

Are you like a closet Yankee fan or something? Show some class. I still wished all the best for Chuck and Chad when they left, despite my misgivings about them.

Is anyone going to make tyhis? Put me down for it!

woot! That was a fun season guys. Hopefully next year we have more players, and less stacked teams =)

he just missed a GS

Please refer to my original post where I state that I think Ortiz has MVP numbers before putting a label on me. The issue isn't with whether Ortiz is deserving of the MVP or not (as mentioned several times by me, I think he is), it is the self-serving statements he made. They won't have Ortiz's numbers but I'm sure they would be hitting closer to the top of their ability. Ortiz has great ability in him which is brought out by Manny's presence behind him. If you don't think Manny's presence makes a big difference in Ortiz's numbers, I think you might be the only person around who thinks that. If you want to turn this into a scaled down version of Manny vs. Papi, you're welcome to do it. My whoile purpose in brining this up was because I was surprised that these kind of statements could come from someone who is supposedly a lovable Big Brother type guy.

Actually I think ESPN picked it up from the Boston Globe, could be wrong though. I still stand by my comments about Varitek.

ooh zinged

For everyone who brough Jeter into the debate please refer to my original opening post where I BOLDED my agreement with Ortiz's comments. The point of this thread was to point out Ortiz's behavior and its effect on voters. I merely wanted to point out that his self-campaigning last year didn't work for him and that I don't think it'll work for him this year either. Any arguments you make for Ortiz I mostly already agreed with, so stop regurgitatng his wonderful stats and focus on the fact that there are certain ways to act in life, and these statements made by Ortiz is not one of them IMO. Have there been other classless sports figures? Of course, and you can bet I would talk about them also if they were playing today, but the ones you mentioned aren't except for ARod (whom I have a severe disregard for due to what I feel is his phony persona and have made numerous posts commenting on such). If you're going to talk about being a leader (which Ortiz has done numerous times in the past), you don't make comments like try seeing how well he does batting in my lineup, or his 40 HR 100 RBI remark. Leaders don't make comments like that. Can you imagine Varitek making a comment like "yeah Posada's doing better against base stealers than me this year, but let's see how he does with the picthes on my staff who don't know how to hold a runner close to first"? No he would never say anything like that, and until recently, I never Ortiz to make those kind of comments either.

If you bothered to read my entire post, you woulda seen that I BOLDED the part where I said I agreed with him. My issue isn't with his comments to an extent (I disagree with his comment about the 40-100 thing, I think that's just ignorant). My contention with him is the classless way he's going about promoting himself for the MVP award just exactly the same classless way he promoted himself last year for it. I think that probably affects writers just as much if not more than the fact that he's a DH. I never brought Jeter into the debate nor said he's a better candidate than Ortiz, Dye, etc. Ortiz's numbers speak for themselves, he doesn't need to start crying about Jeter when I personally think that Jeter is at most the #2 - #3 guy this year. This makes him look like an ignorant classless individual, and it goes exaclty against his cultivated "Big Papi" image. You think his teammates like to hear that they suck or that they aren't helping the team win unless they hitting 40-100? How is that any different that Bonds having his own lounge in the locker room? I know Ortiz doesn't do that, but his commenbts clearly point out that he should at the very least have that option. Maybe Damon was more important than the Red Sox FO thought, at the very least he acted as a sort fo buffer for the media, and I'm sure he woulda poked some fun at Ortiz to klep him form getting to the point where he's making these kind of comments that quite frnakly I was very surprised to hear from. All you hear on ESPN is how everyone in the league loves him and that's why he doesn't get dusted. These kinds of comments reveal a mindset that's not deserving of such accolades.

"Big Papi" is a term of affection used by hispanic people and from what I understand often means someone who is a lovable person, not a crybaby, which I think anyone can plainly see thats what he comes off as in this gem of an article where he manages to throw his team under the boss and throw out the contributions of every person on your championship team who didn't hit 40 HR and 100 RBI, since he asserts that they're the ones helping the club to win. Apparently he doesn't believe in things like leadership, defense, chemistry...or maybe he does, but the point is he doesn't convey that in his comments, which makes him sound like...a crybaby.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2582790 Admittedly I'm a Yankee fan so I definetely see the downside of Ortiz' making these type of comments. While I don't necessarily disagree with him, I tend to think that maybe having this kind of attitude combined with the comments he made last year during the MVP race, that perhaps his attitude and more importantly his willingness to express his attitude has more of an effect on him not winning it than the fact he's a DH. I guess he thought he was the only key to the 2004 championship and that guys like Orlando Cabrera and Curt Schilling had nothing to do with it. I just want to know Mr. Ortiz, would you have been able to distract Mo in Game 4 enough while your team was on the brink of elimination? I guess Dave Roberts, Orlando Cabrera and everyone else who contributed in 2004 don't realy count since they didn't hit 40 home runs. Again, I think if Ortiz hits a couple more HRs, you have to give him the MVP as much as I love Jeter. There is no need for Ortiz to make such presumptive comments before the balloting. All it does is make him look whatever the opposite of his cultivated "big papi" image is supposed to be. Of particular interest was this gem from "Big Papi" That sound you hear is the bus backing up with Big Papi's teammates underneath. Sorry David, not everyone in the lineup gets to hit with Manny batting right behind them.

wow he was in the Beckett trade?

wow he was in the Beckett trade?

I dont see anywhere in his post that says that.

I don't see how you can say Dye is the reason they stepped it up this year when Thome is the new guy.