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And shortly after this pic was taken, Bubba Crosby showed up in style....on the arms of Buddy Groom and Scott Proctor.

I think it was that Wright had the same amount of pitches thrown in all of May and all of June

1-0 right now Bernies been doing good of late

yea..that was a good find. Did you read it somewhere, or come across it yourself

Well I'd rather be older than him than younger than him. Our #1 spec soon to be 27:lol:

I guess its mainly youth talent- Justin Miller is a very fast, very strong younginhttp://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7809/justinmiller19xf.gif Jon Vilma is very reliable and a great player Eric Barton is great, as is Victor Hobson. Though Abe was huge, we still have Dwyane Robertson, Shaun Ellis, and Byran Thomas. Ty Law did great, but we also got Andre Dyson, so we'll have to see how he does. Oh yea, I'm also curious to see how Mike Nugent does, becuase were going to need him to be like 98% in a few years!! And we have a great ex-Rugby left-footed punter, Ben Grahmn

Boy, I'd love that, especially since I'll have to pay about $35 a game in Sports Bar fees(only Bills-Jets games are televised here)

I'd be happy with the Jets going 7-9. It would be a good start twards getting back to playoff form. I'd actually even perfer a non playoff season right now, to get the youth players enough time to be ready for a superbowl run when they do indeed make it, and not just a 1 and done kind of thing. I excited to see how D-Brick and Mangold play out. Especially Mangold, who has huge shoes to fill. We lost Abe and Law, but all things conciderd to me, were still in good shape. We have an great D-line and excellent line backers and a powerful and youth run Defensive Backfield. I feel our defense will be the best its been since maybe even the days of the Sack Exchange. Our offense is a different story though. Quarterback, as I'm sure, your all aware of our situation. Chad, hes one of my favorate guys ever, hes a great ballplayer, but I don't feel anymore he can lead, and Pat Ramseys no more, to me, than a good filler. So right now i say we gotta get Kellen Clemens ready to be a big leaguer. Curtis Martin, sad to say, proabably will never get that Ring, unless hes traded, which, too, is unlikely. But he'll still be able to run good. And Cedric Houston is one hell of a running back, so once C-Marts gone, I'm not worried. But my biggest worry is WR. We have Coles, thats really it. Jerrico Cotchery is a beast, but hes a 3rd at best, same w/ Mccarines. So were pretty much have a 1 and three 3s. But well have to see, and with a new coach, we'll have to see how it goes

Mike Mussina is now tied with Tommy Bond for 58th place on the All Time wins list, and is only 2 behind Whitey Ford, and hes one start behind Curt Simmons and Bob Welch for 67th All time in Starts.

BRACKET ONE Lou Gehrig (New York Yankees) vs Dolph Camilli (Brooklyn Dodgers) Willie McCovey (San Francisco Giants) vs Don Mattingly (New York Yankees) Jeff Bagwell (Houston Astros) vs Todd Helton (Colorado Rockies) Johnny Mize (St. Louis Cardinals) vs Rod Carew (Minnesota Twins) BRACKET TWO Jimmie Foxx (Philadelphia Athletics) vs Mark Grace (Chicago Cubs) vs Cecil Cooper (Milwaukee Brewers) Harmon Killebrew (Minnesota Twins) vs Andres Galarraga (Montreal Expos) Mark McGwire (Oakland Athletics) vs Keith Hernandez (St. Louis Cardinals) Ernie Banks (Chicago Cubs) vs Tony Perez (Cincinnati Reds) BRACKET THREE Eddie Murray (Baltimore Orioles) vs Gil Hodges (Brooklyn Dodgers) Dick Allen (Philadelphia Phillies) vs Wally Joyner (Kansas City Royals) vs Jim Thome (Cleveland Guardians) Frank Thomas (Chicago White Sox) vs Orlando Cepeda (San Francisco Giants) Roger Connor (New York Giants) vs Joe Judge (Washington Senators) BRACKET FOUR Hank Greenberg (Detroit Tigers) vs Fred McGriff (Atlanta Braves) Dan Brouthers (Buffalo Bisons) vs Mickey Vernon (Washington Senators) George Sisler (St. Louis Browns) vs Will Clark (Texas Rangers) Cap Anson (Chicago Cubs) vs Norm Cash (Detroit Tigers) vs Kent Hrbek (Minnesota Twins)

well Randy looks like that all the time any ways, so it wasn't anything too wierd That'd be too expectedB)

Wow, thats pretty cool you did some Yanks in there If anyone makes like a Tris speaker or Rich Ferrell, I'd use em

I'm trying not too So anyways, if Moose wins tomarrow, he'll become the first ever AL SP to have 10+ wins in 15 consecutive seasons. I wonder what the overall record is? He also passed C. Mathewson last game for 27th all time in SO.

Todays was bad:thumbdown

12-1 great

i didn't know that(Gehrig) Thats very cool

I don't........don't think thats true

No, but coming off the walk-off game, It may have seemed like we were booing him, while in fact, we weren't

Well, I know what you mean, but to say the least, every single Mets fan in the stadium were booing him, and there were A LOT of Mets fans there, so it mighta sounded like we were booing, but most of us were cheering

May I ask why he is undeserving, other than his ERA, his numbers are great EDIT err. I don't want to flood this thread, I'll just wait till that round(If hes included)

Man, I can't wait for the greatest SP round!!!!! really, who ever argued you about that:rolleyes: BRACKET ONE Lou Gehrig (New York Yankees) vs Chris Chambliss (New York Yankees) Willie McCovey (San Francisco Giants) vs Joe Kuhel (Washington Senators) Jeff Bagwell (Houston Astros) vs Phil Cavarretta (Chicago Cubs) Johnny Mize (St. Louis Cardinals) vs Bill White (St. Louis Cardinals) Rod Carew (Minnesota Twins) vs Harry Davis (Philadelphia Athletics) Todd Helton (Colorado Rockies) vs Hal Trosky (Cleveland Guardians) Don Mattingly (New York Yankees) vs Jake Fournier (Chicago White Sox) Jake Beckley (Pittsburgh Pirates) vs Dolph Camilli (Brooklyn Dodgers) BRACKET TWO Jimmie Foxx (Philadelphia Athletics) vs Stuffy McInnis (Philadelphia Athletics) Harmon Killebrew (Minnesota Twins) vs Ron Fairly (Los Angeles Dodgers) Mark McGwire (Oakland Athletics) vs John Mayberry (Kansas City Royals) Ernie Banks (Chicago Cubs) vs Rudy York (Detroit Tigers) Tony Perez (Cincinnati Reds) vs Lee May (Baltimore Orioles) Keith Hernandez (St. Louis Cardinals) vs Joe Adcock (Milwaukee Braves) Frank Chance (Chicago Cubs) vs Andres Galarraga (Montreal Expos) Mark Grace (Chicago Cubs) vs Cecil Cooper (Milwaukee Brewers) BRACKET THREE Eddie Murray (Baltimore Orioles) vs Bill Buckner (Los Angeles Dodgers) Dick Allen (Philadelphia Phillies) vs Wally Joyner (Kansas City Royals) Frank Thomas (Chicago White Sox) vs George Scott (Boston Red Sox) Roger Connor (New York Giants) vs Jim Bottomley (St. Louis Cardinals) Rafael Palmeiro (Texas Rangers) vs Joe Judge (Washington Senators) Orlando Cepeda (San Francisco Giants) vs Ted Kluszewski (Cincinnati Reds) Jim Thome (Cleveland Guardians) vs Hal Chase (New York Yankees) Boog Powell (Baltimore Orioles) vs Gil Hodges (Brooklyn Dodgers)-Toughest choice BRACKET FOUR Hank Greenberg (Detroit Tigers) vs John Olerud (Toronto Blue Jays) Dan Brouthers (Buffalo Bisons) vs Bob Watson (Houston Astros) George Sisler (St. Louis Browns) vs Roy Sievers (Washington Senators) Cap Anson (Chicago Cubs) vs Fred Tenney (Boston Beaneaters) Norm Cash (Detroit Tigers) vs Kent Hrbek (Minnesota Twins) Will Clark (Texas Rangers) vs Jake Daubert (Brooklyn Dodgers) Mickey Vernon (Washington Senators) vs Ed Konetchy (St. Louis Cardinals) Fred McGriff (Atlanta Braves) vs Bill Terry (New York Giants)

Moose vs Schilling, thatd be the only way I'd ever watch it.

Wow, fun game, I guess I was wrong when I said I didn't need a sweatshirt, and then found myself soaking wet, and numb for 1 hour, but, we won, so it was worth it.

Wait...you guys watch the All Star game?:dunno:

I think(think) hes saying that Jeter just happens to be the best player on the biggest team, so he is projected as something hes not? idk, something like that