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http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/1c45dcd3-c6da-4aca-8018-18559fe81b80.jpg I love it!

No f***ing way did he just put the ball into the seats. That's the Papi I'm used to! :ortiz:

Alright, Lugo gets on to start the inning!

I remember the first day of football practice in High School and every other level, one of the absolute first things they went over was to keep your head up when trying to tackle somebody and they would keep saying that over and over again. Well, here's your reason why. The contact wasn't anything out of the ordinary, but he put his head down and that's what did it. You can watch that tape a hundred times and not understand how that particular hit would handicap a man, but when you don't keep your head up -- it happens. Very sad to see. It's great to see he's moving on his own. I hope he can fully recover and be able to live a normal life again.

Glad to see Varitek do this for him.

Well, stealing signs seems to be an accepted part of the game of baseball, for one. Secondly, the problem comes from the Patriots taping these signals. Obviously there's a guy in plain sight giving some sort of signals that the Patriots are taking and obviously the Patriots could look at him and try to figure them out but these types of signals in sports tend to be complex enough to where they'd be almost impossible to decipher in real time. By videotaping them, it makes it a great deal easier.

Moving the game to the Meadowlands isn't a reasonable idea for the aforementioned reasons in addition to the fact that when the Jets play on the road, the Giants play at home. Like Inkman said, the logistics of switching venues is already a nightmare, especially when you throw in the fact that the Jets share theirs. A second and a fifth round pick seems about fair since it didn't affect the game that already happened -- I think Goodell may really want to send a message and take some picks from next year too.

Like I said, they more than likely weren't cheating to benefit the short term, but future matchups against the Jets. If they're going to cheat, they should learn how to do it better. I don't see how anybody's shocked, Belichick seems like the type of coach who'd look for and exploit any advantage he could get, which I think is great if I'm a fan of his team. A bit off topic but speaking of Roger Goodell cracking down... I'd be interested to see if he cracks down on the way the Patriots do their injury reports too.

NFL Point Spreads For Week 2 - 9/16 - 9/17, 2007 Spread Category : Date & Time.... Favorite .......................Spread ....................Underdog 9/16 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh.......................... -9.......................... Buffalo 9/16 1:00 ET Cincinnati............................. -5.5........................ At Cleveland 9/16 1:00 ET Indianapolis ...........................-7.......................... At Tennessee 9/16 1:00 ET At Carolina........................... -6.5......................... Houston 9/16 1:00 ET At St. Louis............................ -3.......................... San Francisco 9/16 1:00 ET At NY Giants.......................... -1........................... Green Bay 9/16 1:00 ET At Jacksonville..................... -10.5........................ Atlanta 9/16 1:00 ET New Orleans........................ -3.5..........................At Tampa Bay 9/16 4:05 ET At Detroit............................. -3.............................Minnesota 9/16 4:05 ET Dallas.................................. -3.5......................... At Miami 9/16 4:05 ET Seattle................................ -2.5......................... At Arizona 9/16 4:15 ET At Baltimore......................... -7.5......................... NY Jets 9/16 4:15 ET At Denver............................ -9.5......................... Oakland 9/16 4:15 ET At Chicago......................... -12.5......................... Kansas City 9/16 8:15 ET At New England................... -3.5.......................... San Diego Monday Night Football Point Spread 9/17 8:30 ET At Philadelphia....................... -7.......................... Washington Straight Category : Date & Time.... Favorite .................................................. .....Underdog 9/16 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh........................................ ................ Buffalo 9/16 1:00 ET Cincinnati........................................ .................... At Cleveland 9/16 1:00 ET Indianapolis .................................................. ...... At Tennessee 9/16 1:00 ET At Carolina.......................................... ................ Houston 9/16 1:00 ET At St. Louis............................................. ............ San Francisco 9/16 1:00 ET At NY Giants............................................ ............ Green Bay 9/16 1:00 ET At Jacksonville...................................... ............... Atlanta 9/16 1:00 ET New Orleans........................................... .............At Tampa Bay 9/16 4:05 ET At Detroit........................................... ..................Minnesota 9/16 4:05 ET Dallas............................................ ..................... At Miami 9/16 4:05 ET Seattle........................................... .................... At Arizona 9/16 4:15 ET At Baltimore......................................... ............... NY Jets 9/16 4:15 ET At Denver............................................ ............... Oakland 9/16 4:15 ET At Chicago........................................... ............... Kansas City 9/16 8:15 ET At New England........................................... ........ San Diego Monday Night Football Point Spread 9/17 8:30 ET At Philadelphia...................................... ............... Washington Monday Night Football Total Points Scored ................................. 47

I have to be honest, I'm a big Steve Young fan, but I'm not sure how he gets on the list ahead of Elway.

Just out of curiosity, what was the tie-breaker that won me (the burninators) my game with the Pubes?

Stupid f***ing Ravens. 2nd and goal from the two, with Boller in for an inured McNair and you throw the ball twice, against one of the worst run defenses in the League. Stupid f***ing Ravens.

I actually agree completely. I think Reggie Wayne is a product of Peyton Manning to an extent, to be honest, there's no doubt in my mind that he would struggle as a teams top option. I'm not saying he's not a good WR, but I don't think he's the top tier WR that Manning makes him look like. I also think Harrison is somewhat of a product. Again, not to say he's not very good, but he wouldn't put up numbers that compare with Jerry Rice elsewhere. Look at Edgerrin James in Arizona. Brandon Stokley was something of a scrub before he left Baltimore for Indianapolis. I think the guys around him (especially the offensive line) benefit from Peyton Manning a great deal more than he benefits off of them.

NFL wouldn't be investigating it if there "wasn't much here", and certainly not if it wasn't against the rules. It's a lot more difficult to figure these signals out in real time than it is to do so in review. Besides, they play the Jets at least one more time, so it may have been done so they can look over, and figure out, these signals before their next game against one another. I know it's your favorite team and all... but come on..

Classiest organization in football, right there.

I feel pretty confident in saying that this race is all over.

Anyone see what Darko said after Serbia got eliminated from EuroBasket 2007?! ... hooooly s***. This destroys any post game comment anyone's ever said before. This puts the all-time greatest meltdowns to shame. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/808311/darko_milicic_swears_and_threatens_referees_english_sub/ If you're easily offended then I'd consider not watching that. But I dunno.

Don't worry, ladies, I'm winning this League. After my three MNF'ers play this week I'll be the highest scoring team this week (hopefully)... a trend which will most certainly continue.

They'll be a top defense for a couple of reasons, I think. 1. I absolutely hate the terms that this had to happen under, and I'm not saying I didn't like the guy being on my team, but Darrent Williams shouldn't have been a #2 corner last year -- obviously, I'd love for the guy to still be on the team, and certainly with us, but it was a lot easier to avoid throwing to Champ with Williams opposite of him. He'd have been a great nickelback, but I'd rather have seen Foxworth playing opposite of Champ. Given the choice, I'd rather have Williams over Bly based on the circumstances, but purely from a football standpoint, Bly is a very clear step up. Though I'm not sure that Williams was entirely the problem because of reason number 2. 2. Larry Coyer's gone, and replacing him is a guy with a very impressive track record, Jim Bates. He's not technically the defensive coordinator, but he gets the final word in regards to defensive strategy. I stand by the fact that Coyer was at the very least one of the worst defensive coordinators in the League. The defensive was great, teams adjusted, and Coyer didn't, and then the defense struggled a great deal. He also tried to play Darrent Williams like he was Champ Bailey -- well off of the line of scrimmage -- and it left Darrent to get destroyed by double routes. This one, by the way, is the absolute biggest reason. This guy was a complete failure when it came to mid-game adjustments. 3. The defensive line is improved. That was the biggest weakness. No matter who's playing corner, any time the QB has 5 or 6 seconds to find an open reciever, he will. Jarvis Moss and Simeon Rice, if he's healthy, give the team the pass rush they've lacked. Unfortunately I missed the game so I can't speak intelligently on anything that happened today. But for whatever reason the Broncos have always had the Patriots number and then the last time they played, Brady would not throw the ball to Champ Bailey's side. That'll change with Moss, but if any team has the guy's on defense to stop the Patriots it's Denver. I just hope that QB's still have the idea that when they get near the goalline, they can just throw a jump ball to whomever Champ Bailey's covering. That never ends well for the other team. They should be dramatically improved. I hope they can be "scary good" like they were early last season. Al Wilson was a big loss but it sounds like DJ Williams filled in nicely at mack, which I expected he would.

Yeah, I love sports talk radio, especially the early morning stuff because it tends to be the funniest. I used to try and listen to Mark Patrick On Sports, and that was my favorite show for a while but he got fired from FSR for some reason and I didn't like that too much... then they moved Czab into his timeslot and the shows are great for the exact same reasons. I don't like the shows that try and take themselves too seriously. I do like the third shift, though... that's what got me listening to MPOS and eventually the First Team. Looking at the numbers, I can't even see how the Broncos game was a game at all. They completely dominated offensively and defensively, just couldn't hit a few FG's or cap drives off or something. I didn't listen to or couldn't watch the game so I was just checking ESPN periodically since gameday or whatever was messing up on me. Oh well, I can't remember the last time Denver won on Kickoff weekend... there was the season we lost to Miami and I proclaimed them the "worst Broncos team I've ever seen" a tad bit prematurely considering I think that was their AFC Championship game year and then last years loss against the Rams. I hear Cutler looked good... judging by the numbers, Travis Henry was a stud, and Stokley did more than I expected.

By the way, glad to hear that you like Czaban too. He's one of my favorite radio personalities. Unfortunately I'm not up late/early enough to hear him now that I'm on the East Coast. The Broncos suck on kick off weekend. Is it too much to ask for to start the season at home just once?