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    A Red Sox Fans’ Guide to the 2024 Postseason


    Adam Morgan

    How do you figure out which playoff team to root for? By looking at their former Red Sox, of course.

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    With the Red Sox missing out on the 2024 postseason, I can understand how some might want to switch their focus immediately to hockey or football or soccer. Whatever floats your boat. But for die-hard baseball addicts, this can be a tall order. Luckily for Red Sox fans, the playoff field features no shortage of Boston connections to make October interesting. If Boston connections are your primary criteria, who should you root for? Let's take a trip down memory lane.

    American League

    New York Yankees
    Do I think any Red Sox fans are going to root for the Yankees? No, but they might be interested in watching what happens with Alex Verdugo. After a hot start, Verdugo's season went downhill fast, to the point that Yankees fans were demanding answers from Brian Cashman and Aaron Boone about why Verdugo was starting while much-touted prospect Jasson Domínguez was languishing in Triple-A. According to FanGraphs, Verdugo put up a 64 wRC+ and -0.4 WAR from June 14 onward, making him the fourth-worst qualified player in baseball over that stretch. Eventually, Domínguez was called up, but Verdugo was still getting starts in important games down the stretch. It will be curious to see if Boone and company go with the playoff-experienced Verdugo or rely on the rookie.

    Cleveland Guardians
    After 11 years of managing the Guardians, Terry Francona finally retired last year. Under Francona's leadership, Cleveland boasted such former Red Sox players as Andrew Miller, Mike Napoli, Hanley Ramírez, Rich Hill, and others. Under the new Stephen Vogt regime, not a single former Red Sox appeared in a game for the Guardians this year. 

    Houston Astros
    Do I think any Red Sox fans are going to root for the Astros either? No, and honestly, there isn't much reason to. The only former Red Sox to make appearances for Houston were Kaleb Ort and Tayler Scott, who combined for -0.5 fWAR during their time in Boston. I remember the right-handed Ort, who made 47 appearances for the Sox between 2021 and 2023. In 2024, he managed to have the best season of his career this year, running a 2.55 ERA and amassing 0.5 WAR according to Baseball-Reference (though because of his sky-high FIP, FanGraphs had him at -0.2). He might just sneak onto the playoff roster.

    Tayler Scott, on the other hand, I have no memory of whatsoever. It turns out Scott made four appearances for the 2023 Red Sox, including one start. I must have missed that game. Scott pitched an impressive 62 with the Astros this season. That is significantly more than he had appeared in over his entire big-league career up to the point, and it allowed Scott to amass 1.7 bWAR this season, which ranks 30th among all relievers (though once again, FanGraphs sees a 2.23 ERA and a 4.13 FIP and figures Scott must have gotten lucky, crediting him for just 0.2 WAR). I would assume you'll see him in the playoffs, but as he played four games for Boston, I doubt you'll care.

    Baltimore Orioles
    Former Boston closer, Craig Kimbrel had such a disastrous time with the Orioles that not only did he lose the closer role, but he was eventually released from the team. The only other player with any Red Sox connection to play for the Orioles this season was Yohan Ramírez. The Red Sox and Orioles are just two of the four major league teams he pitched for in 2024. He ended the season pitching 15 games in Worcester with a 2.18 ERA.

    Kansas City Royals
    Four former Red Sox have appeared in games for Kansas City this season. Most notable is former Red Sox starter Michael Wacha. Wacha spent 2022 with the Red Sox, going 11-2 with a 3.32 ERA. I still don't understand why we didn't keep him. In 29 games with the Royals this year, Wacha managed 13 wins and a 3.35 ERA. He is assured to be part of the Royals' postseason rotation. In the bullpen is John Schreiber, who made 111 appearances with Boston between 2021 and 2023. This year, he racked up 51.2 innings with the Royals, boasting a 2.90 ERA and allowing just one home run. He will be an important member of the Royals' plans in October.

    On the hitting side, the Royals ended the season with Tommy Pham. Pham was a trade deadline acquisition for the 2022 Red Sox. He played 53 games, hitting six home runs but otherwise underwhelming offensively. Pham has now been a trade deadline pickup in three straight seasons. He went from the Mets to the Diamondbacks, and all the way to the World Series, in 2023. This season, he was a trade deadline pick-up for the Royals after starting with the Chicago White Sox and making a quick stop with the Cardinals. Pham played 23 games for the Royals, running a .228 batting average and a dreadful 59 wRC+. He started most games down the stretch, so there's a good chance you'll see him in the playoffs. Another important bat in Kansas City's lineup is former Red Sox Hunter Renfroe. Renfroe famously spent 2021 with Boston, slugging 31 homers and racking up an incredible 16 outfield assists. Renfroe was largely replacement level with the Royals this year, only hitting 15 homers. Still, he was their most-used right fielder and should be in the starting lineup for the postseason.

    Detroit Tigers
    This year's Red Sox featured briefly featured two former Tigers, Zack Short and Trey Wingenter. Both appeared in two games for Boston. But Detroit did not return the favor, featuring no former Red Sox. I guess that means Red Sox fans should be rooting for the Astros to beat them in the first round?

    National League

    Los Angeles Dodgers
    I don't expect this to surprise anyone, but there is a LOT of crossover between the Red Sox and Dodgers. We can start with the obvious one, Mookie Betts. If not for a broken hand that cost him 56 games, the former Red Sox and future Hall of Famer could have given Shohei Ohtani a run for his money as NL MVP. Despite the missed time, Betts put up 4.7 bWAR while playing the majority of his games at shortstop.

    Enrique Hernández played 2.5 seasons for the Red Sox, splitting up his two stints with the Dodgers. Ever the utility man, Hernández played seven different positions, including pitcher, for the Dodgers this season. Despite posting a 4.15 ERA over four appearances, I don't think he will be bringing his 50-mph eephus out of the bullpen unless something truly horrible has happened.

    The majority of his time came at third base, but Hernández ended the season playing three straight games at first. With Freddie Freeman likely missing the first round of the playoffs due to an ankle injury, we could see Hernández playing a little first, or third if Dave Roberts starts Max Muncy across the diamond. Either way, Hernández is sure to get some playoff at-bats.

    The Dodgers' bullpen also features a fair amount of Red Sox talent, with Joe Kelly and Ryan Brasier. Both pitchers spent significant time on the IL this season but they finished the season healthy. They should have roles to play in the postseason.

    Philadelphia Phillies
    There are two former Sox on the Phillies. Matt Strahm spent a perfectly solid 2022 season in Boston, but his career has really blossomed in the City of Brotherly Love. This season he posted a 1.87 ERA in 66 appearances. That's good for 2.5 bWAR! (His 2.29 FIP even impressed fWAR as well).

    More importantly, the Phillies have Kyle from Waltham! While Red Sox fans fell in love with Kyle Schwarber during his brief stint in Boston, and he has now spent three seasons in Philadelphia. This year Schwarber led the league in walks while slugging a team-best 38 Schwarbombs. 

    Milwaukee Brewers
    Only one former Red Sox played for the Brewers this season and he didn't play for long. Wade Miley managed only two starts for the Brew Crew before requiring Tommy John surgery. You may recall that Miley spent 2015 in Boston, but his time there is probably best remembered for when he yelled at John Farrell for taking him out of a game in which he gave up five earned runs in four innings.

    San Diego Padres
    The Padres have had three former Red Sox on their roster. Austin Davis but he hasn't pitched in the majors for San Diego since July. The second is Martín Pérez who spent much of the season injured. However, he ended the season in the rotation so there is a chance there is a spot for him in the playoffs.

    Then there is Xander Bogaerts, of course. Despite suffering a fracture in his shoulder, just like Trevor Story, Bogaerts's injury was less severe and required significantly less time on the IL. Bogaerts ended up playing in 111 games this season, but thanks to a bat that graded out a bit below league average, he put up 1.2 bWAR, his lowest total since 2014. Although he spent most of his time at second base, he ended the season playing shortstop, which is probably where we will see him in October now that Ha-Seong Kim is out with his own season-ending shoulder injury.

    Atlanta Braves
    Only one former Red Sox who matters played for Atlanta this season, and that player is Zack Short. I'm kidding, it's Chris Sale. Sale's resurgence was salt in the wound for Fenway faithful who saw Vaughn Grissom miss the majority of the season. Sale's 2.38 ERA and career-high 18 wins make him a lock to bring home his first Cy Young Award. However, he missed his crucial final start against the Mets with back spasms, making his playoff availability a question mark. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    New York Mets
    The final playoff team, the Mets, boast an impressive seven former Red Sox, making them the clear World Series favorites. The major contributors you will see in the postseason are J.D. Martinez and Jose Iglesias on the batting side and Adam Ottavino on the pitching side.

    Martinez came out of the gate like gangbusters for the Mets before significantly slowing down in the second half. He ended the season with a 107 wRC+, his lowest since his days in Houston (aside from the short 2020 season). His 16 home runs match the total from his final season in Boston, the one that led the Red Sox to decide to go a different direction. Despite the struggles, he played in four of New York's final five games, so there is a good chance he will be in the starting lineup this postseason.

    Iglesias has gone in the opposite direction from Martinez this season. His unbelievable 140 wRC+ is the best of his career (again, except for 2020), and he managed to put up a career-high 3.0 bWAR despite playing just 85 games! Iglesias started both ends of the Mets' crucial doubleheader on Monday, and Carlos Mendoza will be relying on him in October.

    Adam Ottavino spent the 2021 campaign in Boston before joining the Mets. He has been in New York for the last three years, running a combined 2.61 ERA over the first two. However, although some of the underlying numbers indicate that Ottavino has been the victim of bad luck this season, his 4.50 ERA is by far his worst as a Met. He has been roughly replacement level but managed to get into three of the club's final four games, including both ends of Monday's doubleheader. That leads me to believe that Ottavino is still a high-leverage choice for Carlos Mendoza and will play a role in October.

    Who I'm Rooting For
    In the end, I think I will root for the Royals in the A,L even though John Schreiber is their only player who spent multiple seasons with the Red Sox. The NL is much more tricky. It is hard not to want good things for Mookie Betts, but Red Sox fans almost instinctively root for the underdogs, and that has to be the Mets. Plus, the Mets probably have the only fanbase that hates the Yankees as much as the Red Sox do, and in the end, isn't that what really matters? It's hard not to feel an affinity for them.

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    9 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

    I'm worried JH will take the Dodgers win to mean we don't need great SP'ers, although they did prove you need 17 SP'ers to win a ring in 2024. (They had 10 guys start 6 or more games and 8 start 10+.)

    Hopefully the Sox realize using bullpen games in the postseason isn’t the same as counting on them in the regular season.  Hopefully they learned their downfall this past season was a complete lack of SP depth…

    10 minutes ago, notin said:

    Hopefully the Sox realize using bullpen games in the postseason isn’t the same as counting on them in the regular season.  Hopefully they learned their downfall this past season was a complete lack of SP depth…

    The funny thing is Houck and Criswell were two of our depth SP'ers.

    30 minutes ago, notin said:

    Hopefully the Sox realize using bullpen games in the postseason isn’t the same as counting on them in the regular season.  Hopefully they learned their downfall this past season was a complete lack of SP depth…

    They have to know, but I do think they felt the guys they signed would do better.

    Had Gio pitched 190 IP at 4.25, we'd likely make the playoffs.  It's not like we missed by a mile.

    Had we kept Sale, we make it, for sure. We kept him for 5 years, and missed by a year. We can't blame anyone but ourselves for that one.

    The Kluber, Richards & Perez signings were stabs in the dark, and I guess the Wacha, Hill and maybe the Paxton signing kinda balanced them out.

    The weird thing is, the year we chose right (Wacha & Hill) we still sucked.

    5 hours ago, notin said:

    Hopefully the Sox realize using bullpen games in the postseason isn’t the same as counting on them in the regular season.  Hopefully they learned their downfall this past season was a complete lack of SP depth…

    There's no doubt about it but if it weren't for some blown saves after the break, it could've been a different story at the end. Just like the offense was great but after so much pitching disappointment, it too started to falter at the end. 

    10 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

    The funny thing is Houck and Criswell were two of our depth SP'ers.

    Houck was 1 of 4 contending for the 4-5 spots going into spring training, no? With none of them locks. 

    1 Giolito

    2 Bello

    3 Pivetta

    4-5 Crawford/Houck/Whitlock/Winckowski

     

    28 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Houck was 1 of 4 contending for the 4-5 spots going into spring training, no? With none of them locks. 

    1 Giolito

    2 Bello

    3 Pivetta

    4-5 Crawford/Houck/Whitlock/Winckowski

     

    Yes, and some felt he should be in the 5, especially those wanting Whitlock in the pen. I read, somewhere, that Houck was going to be the one "left out."

    I know the season opening order might not have much meaning, but we started out with...

    1. Bello

    2. Pivetta

    3. Crawford

    4. Whitlock

    5. Houck

    I'm not trying to argue we had great SP'er depth, because we did not, but the 6th and 7th guys (Houck & Criswell) did better than the 1-5, combined. Fitts did damn good, too.

    4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

    I'm not trying to argue we had great SP'er depth, because we did not, but the 6th and 7th guys (Houck & Criswell) did better than the 1-5, combined. 

    Well, it was kind of a motley crew.  Not one guy with really impressive credentials...

    23 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Houck was 1 of 4 contending for the 4-5 spots going into spring training, no? With none of them locks. 

    1 Giolito

    2 Bello

    3 Pivetta

    4-5 Crawford/Houck/Whitlock/Winckowski

     

    Nothing personal, but every time someone posts Giolito at the top of the Red Sox' projected 2024 rotation, I still blame John Henry for lowering fan expectations...

    ... because threads still defend the Gio signing: 

    It made sense, because he eats innings (yea, badly)

    We would've made the playoffs if he didn't get hurt (by pitching the most innings, badly?)

    Well, they paid him to be a Number One (bad-pitch thrower?)

    But the front office was so confident in Lucas, they gave him an opt-out if he succeeds (so... if he's good enough to get market value as a true ace, we no longer need him?)

     

     

    55 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Houck was 1 of 4 contending for the 4-5 spots going into spring training, no? With none of them locks. 

    1 Giolito

    2 Bello

    3 Pivetta

    4-5 Crawford/Houck/Whitlock/Winckowski

     

    Wild that perennial #5 Pivetta was an automatic lock.

    17 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

    Nothing personal, but every time someone posts Giolito at the top of the Red Sox' projected 2024 rotation, I still blame John Henry for lowering fan expectations...

    ... because threads still defend the Gio signing: 

    It made sense, because he eats innings (yea, badly)

    We would've made the playoffs if he didn't get hurt (by pitching the most innings, badly?)

    Well, they paid him to be a Number One (bad-pitch thrower?)

    But the front office was so confident in Lucas, they gave him an opt-out if he succeeds (so... if he's good enough to get market value as a true ace, we no longer need him?)

     He started off 2023 well for the CHW: 117 ERA+, 21 GS. It just ended really, really poorly with the Angels.

    He was a solid pitcher from 19-21. I think there were hopes that Bailey would be able to settle him down and at least make him a respectable #2/3. I don't think anyone really saw him as a true TOTR guy. 

    10 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

     He started off 2023 well for the CHW: 117 ERA+, 21 GS. It just ended really, really poorly with the Angels.

    He was a solid pitcher from 19-21. I think there were hopes that Bailey would be able to settle him down and at least make him a respectable #2/3. I don't think anyone really saw him as a true TOTR guy. 

    Not disagreeing with this post (but we shouldn't overlook he sucked in 2022, too). 

    And we all agree Breslow and Bailey wouldn't have signed him if they didn't think they could fix him, and wouldn't have committed all that dough if he were damaged goods...

    ... but: Bailey stresses sweepers over heaters, and sweepers stress elbows more, and Giolito blew out his elbow in a couple of weeks after putting on the Boston uniform.

    Subsequently, the Sox' rotation -- and bullpen -- never had sufficient depth to make the postseason.

    47 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

    Nothing personal, but every time someone posts Giolito at the top of the Red Sox' projected 2024 rotation, I still blame John Henry for lowering fan expectations...

    ... because threads still defend the Gio signing: 

    It made sense, because he eats innings (yea, badly)

    We would've made the playoffs if he didn't get hurt (by pitching the most innings, badly?)

    Well, they paid him to be a Number One (bad-pitch thrower?)

    But the front office was so confident in Lucas, they gave him an opt-out if he succeeds (so... if he's good enough to get market value as a true ace, we no longer need him?)

     

     

    I've been disgusted by our rotation since 2020.

    I hate the plan of trying to continually improve our #4 or 5.

    I've always been for adding to a rotation at the top (as in acquiring a #1 or #2,) almost every year.

    I was not happy with the Gio signing, especially since we added nobody else, except Chase Anderson, Criswell and Uwasawa. Whe Gio went down hurt, and we did nothing, the sham was double exposed.

    1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

    What choice does a GM/CBO have, if the boss lays down the gauntlet?

    Bloom did pretty much nothing with all the expiring contracts he had, and Story, and Masa  were not the best choices to spend the money he had. Bloom had all kinds of different choices.

    2 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

    Not disagreeing with this post (but we shouldn't overlook he sucked in 2022, too). 

    And we all agree Breslow and Bailey wouldn't have signed him if they didn't think they could fix him, and wouldn't have committed all that dough if he were damaged goods...

    ... but: Bailey stresses sweepers over heaters, and sweepers stress elbows more, and Giolito blew out his elbow in a couple of weeks after putting on the Boston uniform.

    Subsequently, the Sox' rotation -- and bullpen -- never had sufficient depth to make the postseason.

    There are no studies that show sliders or offspeed pitches cause more injuries. What probably cause more injuries is throwing at max effort over and over again.

    6 minutes ago, Old Red said:

    Bloom did pretty much nothing with all the expiring contracts he had, and Story, and Masa  were not the best choices to spend the money he had. Bloom had all kinds of different choices.

    Story was an uninspiring choice for sure. I don't think anyone thought he'd have the overwhelming injury issues he's had. We knew he had the arm issue that needed fixing (should have been addressed on day one), but he's had a string of bad luck injuries too. 

    7 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

    Story was an uninspiring choice for sure. I don't think anyone thought he'd have the overwhelming injury issues he's had. We knew he had the arm issue that needed fixing (should have been addressed on day one), but he's had a string of bad luck injuries too. 

    Bloom did not make one single move that got Sox fans excited at the time he made it.  Which is not to say that they were all bad moves by any means, some turned out to be good and even very good.

    But it's basically been 5 years of Sox fans being nonplussed.

    10 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

    Story was an uninspiring choice for sure. I don't think anyone thought he'd have the overwhelming injury issues he's had. We knew he had the arm issue that needed fixing (should have been addressed on day one), but he's had a string of bad luck injuries too. 

    Agree on Story, but Bloom had some kind of vision on Masa to be part of the future.

    7 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Bloom did not make one single move that got Sox fans excited at the time he made it.  Which is not to say that they were all bad moves by any means, some turned out to be good and even very good.

    But it's basically been 5 years of Sox fans being nonplussed.

    When I see non and plus, I immediately assume that's a minus.

    11 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Bloom did not make one single move that got Sox fans excited at the time he made it.  Which is not to say that they were all bad moves by any means, some turned out to be good and even very good.

    But it's basically been 5 years of Sox fans being nonplussed.

    In order of most liked at the time of acquisition:

    Devers extension

    Ottavino trade

    Schwarber trade

    Seabold/Pivetta trade

    Story signing (media really liked it)

    Adam Duvall signing

    4 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Baseball is the only game where there is such a thing as fan interference, isn't it?  I don't remember any fan interference calls in the NFL, or NBA, or NHL.

    When fans get involved in the NBA, you get the Malice in the Palace…

    2 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Mookie handled it well.  He was really pissed about it at the time, as well he should be, the idiots could have injured him.  After the game he said it was irrelevant, he wasn't hurt, they lost the game, life goes on, end of story.

     

    They grabbed his arm and his glove and it looked like they tried to defend their actions since he came into their area across the wall, despite replays clearly showing they leaned over.

     

    Im glad they got banned after shelling out a couple grand to watch one inning of a World Series game…

    9 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Not much.  Although there were probably better choices than Story and Yoshida.

    No doubt.

    I've highlights just how poorly Bloom did on his biggest spendings and listed them in order of cost.

    I am not sure he was given any directive to not spend on SP'ers long term, and if I had to guess, I'd say no, he was not, but they may have said no to a few specific offers he wanted to give. For all we know, maybe even Brez asked to go longer on Imanaga, and JH & Co. said no, but I'll assume that was not the case.

    IMO, the GM was handed a winter spending budget that included limits on AAV and length of bigger deals, but the GM chose how to spend it.

    Spending on Story and Yoshida, instead of SP'ers was a huge mistake.

    He did spend a bit on the pen... Barnes, Diekman, Jansen, Martin... Without a decent rotation, it was kind of a waste.




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