9/1 @ LA Angels

[jung]

Price going for Sox

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[jung]

I don't get it either RemDog. You got moonshots leaving all over the place and 0-0 in the first, teams pull the infield in with a runner at 3rd. Must be another screwed up spreadsheet thing.

[TylerD]

1-0 good guys.

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The price of trout seems awfully high.

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Now that the Angels have Goodwin they need to sign a guy named Badloss.

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The SOX are well stocked with Hernandez's. M-hern, D-hern, and G-hern.

[FredLynn]

The SOX are well stocked with Hernandez's. M-hern, D-hern, and G-hern.

 

The plural of Hernandez is "Hernandi".....I think.

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Obviously, the Angels' pitching strategy in this series was to keep JBJ out of the line-up. It worked.

[FredLynn]

Price fails to pay attention to Calhoun allowing him to steal 2nd base uncontested. Another example of brain dead baseball.

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The plural of Hernandez is "Hernandi".....I think.

 

I think you're right. The SOX have a lot of Hernandi.

[TylerD]

2 innings just one hit against Price. Hope he can go 6

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I believe the SOX are the only team in MLB to have two Joshes, or is that Joshi?

[TylerD]

4-0 good guys !

[jung]

Who has taught these Angels pitchers how to throw Changeups. In fact, from what I have seen....NOBODY

 

But I digress.

 

I had to switch to EEI for audio as OB is once again puke material and I can't take Remy's all day complaints about strike calls and Sox pitchers.

 

The EEI crew commenting that MLB is beginning to wonder about its posture regarding pitching considering what a train wreck it is in MLB now. They must have gotten wind of some under the surface rumblings. The quality of pitching in MLB is clearly completely out of control BAD. Can't keep pointing at Verlander and saying "well what about Verlander". Verlander is simply the exception that proves the rule.

 

However, they are also acknowledging the same thing I have said for a long time. We did not get here overnight and we are not going to clean up this train wreck overnight either. I have mused that it will take 10 years to clean up this mess. It will certainly take 5 easily and more probably, 10.

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X-man and JD! Half of the FAB 4.

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Who has taught these Angels pitchers how to throw Changeups. In fact, from what I have seen....NOBODY

 

But I digress.

 

I had to switch to EEI for audio as OB is once again puke material and I can't take Remy's all day complaints about strike calls and Sox pitchers.

 

The EEI crew commenting that MLB is beginning to wonder about its posture regarding pitching considering what a train wreck it is in MLB now. They must have gotten wind of some under the surface rumblings. The quality of pitching in MLB is clearly completely out of control BAD. Can't keep pointing at Verlander and saying "well what about Verlander". Verlander is simply the exception that proves the rule.

 

However, they are also acknowledging the same thing I have said for a long time. We did not get here overnight and we are not going to clean up this train wreck overnight either. I have mused that it will take 10 years to clean up this mess. It will certainly take 5 easily and more probably, 10.

 

It's actually quite simple. Too many teams and not enough quality players to man them, especially throwers.

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Where did Price go? I swore I saw him earlier on the mound. Another boo-boo for the old man?

[illinoisredsox]

It's actually quite simple. Too many teams and not enough quality players to man them, especially throwers.

 

That’s probably not true. The EEI guys were saying that pitchers are babied from the moment they sign. They aren’t trained to go even 6 innings any more, let alone 9. So a change will take a few years and start in Rookie and Low A ball.

 

They gave a quote (or at least a paraphrase) from Curt Schilling. Pitchers are like dogs, they do what you train them to do.

Edited September 1, 2019 by illinoisredsox

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I'm getting the LA feed and they've said nothing about Price's disappearance. Was he on a single digit pitch count?

[jung]

It's actually quite simple. Too many teams and not enough quality players to man them, especially throwers.

 

In general I would agree that the quality across MLB is not what it should be. But they have as purposefully aimed pitchers at velo and spin rate at the expense of command and just burned through them like Sherman's march to the sea. What did they think was going to happen? Its not like you can just ratchet up the velo and the spin rate and get either the command or the innings out of these guys. WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Result, starters now struggle to go 5, never mind 6 and REALLY never mind consistent 7's or complete games. Worse than that, (if something could be worse) relief pitchers can no longer go multiple innings. 20 pitches and they are done!

 

All of this horse s*** that the players are sooooooo much better now was simply horse s*** used to cover up what was actually happening on the diamond.

 

I will grant you that there is not enough quality to go around. But how much of that is simply burning through these pitchers when they are too young forced to give their Managers "all they can for as long as they can" which is now been so normalized that it is the vocal mantra around MLB. They have been singing that mantra for a good ten years now at least and this is the result.

 

The human body is only designed to do so much. Never mind the spreadsheets and the advanced metrics and fitness training and even drugs. The body can only do so much and can only stand so much.

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That’s probably not true. The EEI guys were saying that pitchers are babied from the moment they sign. They aren’t trained to go even 6 innings any more, let alone 9.

 

They gave a quote (or at least a paraphrase) from Curt Schilling. Pitchers are like dogs, they do what you train them to do.

 

Do you actually believe there's enough talent to man 30 teams? Seriously?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

In general I would agree that the quality across MLB is not what it should be. But they have as purposefully aimed pitchers at velo and spin rate at the expense of command and just burned through them like Sherman's march to the sea. What did they think was going to happen? Its not like you can just ratchet up the velo and the spin rate and get either the command or the innings out of these guys. WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Result, starters now struggle to go 5, never mind 6 and REALLY never mind consistent 7's or complete games. Worse than that, (if something could be worse) relief pitchers can no longer go multiple innings. 20 pitches and they are done!

 

All of this horse s*** that the players are sooooooo much better now was simply horse s*** used to cover up what was actually happening on the diamond.

 

I will grant you that there is not enough quality to go around. But how much of that is simply burning through these pitchers when they are too young forced to give their Managers "all they can for as long as they can" which is now been so normalized that it is the vocal mantra around MLB. They have been singing that mantra for a good ten years now at least and this is the result.

 

The human body is only designed to do so much. Never mind the spreadsheets and the advanced metrics and fitness training and even drugs. The body can only do so much and can only stand so much.

 

5-man pitching staffs and 100 throws pitch count. How much babying do they need?

[TylerD]

We need to sign porcello. He’s the only pitcher that goes every 5th day and gives us 6 innings usually. And E rod. Price is useless and who knows with Sale now.

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Maybe quality starts have to be redefined down to 5 innings and 3 or less runs.

[jung]

I'm getting the LA feed and they've said nothing about Price's disappearance. Was he on a single digit pitch count?

 

 

Since switching to EEI for audio I was checking back in with NESN as Price went out of the game. They are see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil......figures.

 

EEI is justifiably concerned. I did not want to post it earlier just because....but Price did not look comfortable on the mound. Constantly looking at his wrist and shaking it. You folks must have noticed that when Price has a cranky anything he goes through a good many gyrations to show us all that he is "toughing through it". Remember that ridiculous contraption he had in the dugout last year or year before last.

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We need to sign porcello. He’s the only pitcher that goes every 5th day and gives us 6 innings usually. And E rod. Price is useless and who knows with Sale now.

 

POR's durable. That's all I've got.

[FredLynn]

We need to sign porcello. He’s the only pitcher that goes every 5th day and gives us 6 innings usually. And E rod. Price is useless and who knows with Sale now.

 

Porcello is s***, but he makes up for it in quantity...is that what you mean?

[illinoisredsox]

Do you actually believe there's enough talent to man 30 teams? Seriously?

 

I think you might be surprised if relief pitchers were actually allowed to go more than an inning at a time and starters were expected to go 7 or more. Train them to go it and I think they can. Learn to get out of the messes you get into. Learn to pitch when you don’t have your best stuff.

[jung]

5-man pitching staffs and 100 throws pitch count. How much babying do they need?

 

 

Well I would not actually call it babying as much as it is too much focus on only two aspects of pitching to the detriment of everything else. Velo and spin rate preferred to command and and the offshoot is they can't go innings and they break down too early and often.

 

They end up "babied" but they are in the Majors by the time that happens. Before that they are being groomed to be what MLB wants them to be....pitchers that give their Managars all they have for every pitch until they can't go any longer in a stint and that is simply wrongheaded. It is actually much worse than pointing hitters at launch angle because you are not going to physically damage a hitter pointing him at a launch angle swing.

 

Starters used to pace themselves through games and they are no longer taught to do that and hence....no longer do that. They don't even know how any longer.