Do Sox give Ellsbury Crawford's money?

[jung]

Age could be a factor when you take as long to heal as Ells does. Even at his current age it might make somebody leery of one of these seven year deals. He looks like a three to five guy to me. Three at the inside and five years at the outside.

[NativeBostonian]

He needs to play well next year. If he does what he did last year he will get that kind of money.

[jung]

It is a given that if he repeats 2011 Ells will get big money. I just don't think he has a snowballs chance in hell particularly in the one category that really matters, power, most specifically HR's

[Spitball]

If Ellsbury has a good/great season in 2013 and is healthy next year, Boras has him test the market. If he is injured or has a poor year, Boras has him sign a modest one-year deal someplace to re-establish his market value (He has done that recently with Edwin Jackson and Ryan Madson). Either way, the Red Sox lose.

 

I will go back to a thread I started last winter and propose a Ellsbury for Lincecum trade. Both have one year left until free agency. Both are coming off down years. The Giants need offense, and the Red Sox need pitching.

 

I know it would be a big, big gamble with the Red Sox getting a pitcher possibly in serious decline... but Lincecum is still striking out more than a batter an inning. And, it would be only for one year. With Boras, they surely lose Ellsbury at the end of the year. If Lincecum bounces back, they have a better chance of re-signing him.

[Behindenemylines]

Crawford wasn't worth Crawford $$$$$. I think the Sox will put a value on Ellsbury and if he ask for more they will trade him. A player doesn't deserve big $$$$$ based on one season. I think they need to put up numbers multiple season to earn $$$$$$$$.

[Spitball]

Crawford wasn't worth Crawford $$$$$. I think the Sox will put a value on Ellsbury and if he ask for more they will trade him. A player doesn't deserve big $$$$$ based on one season. I think they need to put up numbers multiple season to earn $$$$$$$$.

 

Scott Boras is Ellsbuy's agent, and he has his clients declare free agency to test the open market. That will make him nearly impossible to sign for reasonable dollars, and almost as impossible to trade for the same reason.

[jacksonianmarch]

Ellsbury might need to fight for some playing time next yr if he keeps playing like this. Nevermind the Crawford money. I think his shoulder injury is more serious than is being let on and we will hear about some capsular tear in the offseason that will end up getting fixed. You dont all of a sudden lose all your power immediately without either coming off the roids or having some injury

[RedSoxNC84]

Ellsbury might need to fight for some playing time next yr if he keeps playing like this. Nevermind the Crawford money. I think his shoulder injury is more serious than is being let on and we will hear about some capsular tear in the offseason that will end up getting fixed. You dont all of a sudden lose all your power immediately without either coming off the roids or having some injury

 

What about roid-injuries?

[kapsis21]

Ellsbury might need to fight for some playing time next yr if he keeps playing like this. Nevermind the Crawford money. I think his shoulder injury is more serious than is being let on and we will hear about some capsular tear in the offseason that will end up getting fixed. You dont all of a sudden lose all your power immediately without either coming off the roids or having some injury

 

spoke like a true yankee fan :thumbdown

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Jacko posting nothing but negative s*** on every thread to get in our head.

[jacksonianmarch]

Do I really need to get in your head? Everything about your current team sucks.

[Behindenemylines]

The $panks have their own decision on their centerfielder. Grandison is going to want a lot of years at big $$$$. Does he still have the power numbers if the Bronx isn't his home? In my opinium I don't think he is the outfielder that Ellsbury is. With that said I think the Sox are going to go back to the way they did things before. They put a value on a player and don't go above that. The point was made that if he has a 2013 season like he had in 2011 maybe that value they offer might increase. Otherwise, Ellsbury has been a good player, not a great player, thus not worth Crawford $$$$$$.

[jacksonianmarch]

The Yankees do have some decisions to make, but Granderson will either be back or be traded as his option will be picked up.

[Brennan]

Granderson sure developed a lot of power when he sold out to pinstripes. Just sayin'.

[jacksonianmarch]

You are spouting nonsense. He developed power when he quieted his movement in the box and started pulling nearly everything. Yankee Stadium has something to do with that. He started moving around in the box of late, and it looks like Long may have tweaked something again

[Brennan]

Yeah, like when Bautista "changed his batting stance". Take a look at his HR numbers from his time with the Bucks. What's better is that his buddy Encanacion must have adopted the same "stance".

 

 

I'm talking nonsense? Didn't you just insinuate that Ellsbury might be coming off "roids"?

[Brennan]

I couldn't care less if the Sox win another game this season as long as they kick the s*** out of the spankee$. I know they won't make it far this fall but if we could be a part of them missing the playoffs it would be manna from Heaven.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I couldn't care less if the Sox win another game this season as long as they kick the s*** out of the spankee$. I know they won't make it far this fall but if we could be a part of them missing the playoffs it would be manna from Heaven.

 

Agreed. It'd be fun as hell to mess with Jacko. Not like we have room to talk but s*** knowing he'll be on the couch not seeing his team in the playoffs is awesome. C'mon Girardi bring in that inner 2008 you SOB.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Do I really need to get in your head? Everything about your current team sucks.

 

Yeah no kidding, you state s*** that we already know. You just come on to threads and post how bad a player or team is, we kind of know already.

[jung]

Poor Jacko is stuck with the inevitable groping for answers, reasons why his mighty club went from cruising into the post season on the tails of a division win to clawing for wins to get there. Sure the answer might lie in something logical like injuries to key elements of the pitching staff finally catching up to the Skankees. Then again there is that off chance that Jacko talksox post number XXXX or some other in his long line of posts intended to do harm to the Sox or further demoralize Sox devotees here at a Sox site was finally one post to many. He cannot discount the possibility that the baseball gods have decided to seek retribution under the "he who lives in glass house" rule, messing with said rule being potentially as devastating as any curse associated with trading Babe Ruth may have been to the Red Sox.