Kelly Shoppach traded

[Bellhorn04]

as much as i want the Bailey deal to work out.. its been a mess of a job what Cherries has done so far..

when the time was right he was afraid to pull the trigger and when As want Aviles he wants to sell high..

Aviles is useless to this team right now.. get a AA SP and call it a day man..

big mistake by Cherrington.

 

The only way Ben could 'sell high' on Aviles anymore is if he smokes a big fat joint of Colombia's finest before he picks up the phone.

[kapsis21]

The only way Ben could 'sell high' on Aviles anymore is if he smokes a big fat joint of Colombia's finest before he picks up the phone.

 

:lol:

[jung]

Once again it appears that decisions about trading players and their value are made based on a flawed original analysis that nobody is willing to admit to. Aviles is a good utility player that can come in and play a few positions for you and might even sting the opposition with his bat on occasion. That is it. He is not an everyday SS anywhere but in goofy Boston where the FO would not know a SS from a hole in the wall.

 

Apparently though his resume suggests it, he can't even play third as the Sox have had several opportunities to put him there for a game or two and have opted to have the mighty Punto in the lineup instead. Aviles not only erodes my hope for the Sox at SS but erodes my hope that this organization will ever move past some of these boneheaded moves.

[Bellhorn04]

Once again it appears that decisions about trading players and their value are made based on a flawed original analysis that nobody is willing to admit to. Aviles is a good utility player that can come in and play a few positions for you and might even sting the opposition with his bat on occasion. That is it. He is not an everyday SS anywhere but in goofy Boston where the FO would not know a SS from a hole in the wall.

 

Oh, I think I'll admit to that now.

[Elktonnick]

Once again it appears that decisions about trading players and their value are made based on a flawed original analysis that nobody is willing to admit to. Aviles is a good utility player that can come in and play a few positions for you and might even sting the opposition with his bat on occasion. That is it. He is not an everyday SS anywhere but in goofy Boston where the FO would not know a SS from a hole in the wall.

 

Apparently though his resume suggests it, he can't even play third as the Sox have had several opportunities to put him there for a game or two and have opted to have the mighty Punto in the lineup instead. Aviles not only erodes my hope for the Sox at SS but erodes my hope that this organization will ever move past some of these boneheaded moves.

 

I concur I have thought for a long time that baseball ops basically falls in love with a player and their analysis of his capabilities. They stick to that opinion regardless of any subsequent data or performance. They also consistently underestimate if they estimate at all a player's character in assessing his ability to play in Boston. The result is they assemble a collection of players who are never equal to or exceed the sum of their parts. In general, I believe Cherrington is an awful evaluator of talent or of people.

 

In this whole debacle, the media has generally given Cherrington and baseball ops a free pass which I think they don't deserve.

[Behindenemylines]

Good trade. Let the kid play (Lavarnway) to see if he is a keeper. Salty is not the answer (Strikes out way to much) long term.