8/9 @the Tribe

[jung]

We are playing a team that has lost 11 of its last 12.....lost 11 in a row in fact. Do we look like we are even competing with this team....no...this game has the same air of inevitability about it that the last 20 games or so have had...just waiting to get to the ninth inning to see what score we lost by this time.

[Station 13]

f***. Salty and 99% K Rate.

[CX360]

It's okay guys, really! Perez will surely blow the save.

[wyo-sox]

If we lose this series to the horse s*** Tribe' date=' this will officially be rock bottom, and we can finally give up our last shred of hope.[/quote']

 

Way ahead of you on the loosing hope thing.

[SoxFanForsyth]

That's the guy we traded Youk for.

[Station 13]

Amazing. We can't caught a break. CC hit a ball hard and ended the 7th. They hit a little grounder and it's a base hit.

[Station 13]

That's the guy we traded Youk for.

 

Lillibitch! NEver forget

[SoxFanForsyth]

Aviles. Just pathetic.

[jung]

I suspect that they let Salty hit there because regardless of how much speed they have...virtually all of it wasted on this team with the exception of using it to get home from 2nd or go from 1st to 3rd, about all they can do is get a guy or two on and hit a dinger...if you look at how many of their runs of late are coming by that route, that is basically all they have for an offense.

 

We had one game against the Rangers where they actually looked like there was an offensive plan at work and every other game has looked like this. Frankly that one game against the Rangers was clearly an anomaly....the right guys happened to come up at the right time and they got to look like an offense. All to often it is offense by accident....and a consequence of accumulating enough hits and walks in a row to score some runs....all of it basically a sequence of disconnected but none the less positive offensive events that results in a run or two.

 

So beyond making monster improvements to the starting pitching, they are going to have to make many changes to the everyday ballplayers in order to have an actual team offensive concept. Once you get into the real important part of the season if all you can do is mash the ball, well you will be prevented from doing that by the better pitchers in this league. While they are at it, they might actually end up with better defense as well. They can s***-can Punto as soon as possible and make Aviles the back up...they need three catchers like they need a hole in the head and it would be helpful to have somebody besides Kalish that can throw the ball toward home without blooping the f***ing thing over the cutoff man. What a sorry assed excuse for a baseball team. The only thing more embarrassing than watching them play now would be watching them play in a post season series...now that would be "laughable".

[Bellhorn04]

They might have to fire Valentine before the season ends after all.

[Station 13]

LOL the ball keep being out of reach

[wyo-sox]

What in the world would it do if they fired Valentine? Plus they would have to force someone at gun point to take the job.

[Station 13]

Is this guy better than Fat Albers?

[NC Sox Fan]

Good point wyo

[Bellhorn04]

Is this guy better than Fat Albers?

 

Quite a bold stroke that trade was huh?

[SoxFanForsyth]

Is this guy better than Fat Albers?

 

Well, I personally think so (Ablers is historically awful in the 2nd half, 6.08 career ERA in 2nd half vs 3.81 in 1st half).

 

But regardless of that, Morales is better than Cook, and the Sox wanted 2 LHP. I still like the move.

[jung]

Before I forget and if I just don't get an opportunity to at some later date, I want to commend the guys like Elk and 700 and a few others who have been pretty much on point with regard to where this team was and where it was going for not gloating or making life more miserable for the more optimistic board members and I also want to commend the guys that have been steadfast in supporting a more optimistic view that have stayed with the board while the team has crumbled before their eyes. I am glad they stayed and I wish more from the optimist crowd had stayed. Clearly the board has been mature enough not to degenerate into ugliness over the dif between the optimists and realists (I guess, for lack of a better term) and I would have preferred more people hang around because we all learn more from each other the more of us there are.

[SoxFanForsyth]

What in the world would it do if they fired Valentine? Plus they would have to force someone at gun point to take the job.

 

I'm sure Bogar would take the job. And he seems like the kind of guy who is a bit more of a John Farrell type who won't take much s*** from his players. I don't know why I feel that way, he just kind of carries himself that way IMO.

[Bellhorn04]

What in the world would it do if they fired Valentine? Plus they would have to force someone at gun point to take the job.

 

Yeah, believe me I understand what you're saying. I'm just getting a feeling that this team is quitting, and the FO may have to do it even if just to give the impression they're aware that this isn't really acceptable to the fans of Boston...

[wyo-sox]

Well my hats off to the few of you that still watch the games and chime in on the game thread...... band wagon pink hatters ye are not.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Oh good, Aviles is up.

[Brennan]

Well I just try to post positive things about the team.

 

Which is why I don't post much anymore.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I had a dream last night that we won a series.

 

There were unicorns there too.

[example1]

Before I forget and if I just don't get an opportunity to at some later date' date=' I want to commend the guys like Elk and 700 and a few others who have been pretty much on point with regard to where this team was and where it was going for not gloating or making life more miserable for the more optimistic board members and I also want to commend the guys that have been steadfast in supporting a more optimistic view that have stayed with the board while the team has crumbled before their eyes. I am glad they stayed and I wish more from the optimist crowd had stayed. Clearly the board has been mature enough not to degenerate into ugliness over the dif between the optimists and realists (I guess, for lack of a better term) and I would have preferred more people hang around because we all learn more from each other the more of us there are.[/quote']

 

Well said. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and now a700 has had his moment of being right.

 

Also, this:

 

"Before I forget and if I just don't get an opportunity to at some later date, I want to commend the guys like Elk and 700 and a few others who have been pretty much on point with regard to where this team was and where it was going for not gloating or making life more miserable for the more optimistic board members and I also want to commend the guys that have been steadfast in supporting a more optimistic view that have stayed with the board while the team has crumbled before their eyes."

 

is a long sentence.

[Station 13]

Was that Lackey with hands in trouser?

[a700hitter]

I'm sure Bogar would take the job. And he seems like the kind of guy who is a bit more of a John Farrell type who won't take much s*** from his players. I don't know why I feel that way' date=' he just kind of carries himself that way IMO.[/quote']This will be a new humiliating low. After a team has played sustained humiliating ball for more than two-thirds of the season, the manager should probably be fired whether or not it is his fault.

[example1]

Ellsbury doesn't look like an MVP.

[jung]

Bogars would take the job but in truth at least from my perspective, V does not deserve a mid-season firing. He may not deserve a firing at all when you consider what alternatives might be available even after this season ends.

 

I never thought I would be sitting here, more or less defending V. However this team, this FO and this upper management has literally not left me a choice. I cannot in good conscience bang on V when so much of what is around him has been a fail on a historic level.

[a700hitter]

Again, we can't win a game where we score less than 5 runs. That's the story of the season.

[CX360]

Hmm.

 

Shame. Acta lives to manage another day.