The Future of Fenway Park

[onlybereaved]

I am confused regarding this topic - as I was under the impression that Fenway Park is now considered a historical monument of Boston, and can therefore not be modified let alone leveled to build a new stadium.

 

What's the deal (Please forgive my possible ignorance here)

[BigPapiEnFuego]

I am confused regarding this topic - as I was under the impression that Fenway Park is now considered a historical monument of Boston, and can therefore not be modified let alone leveled to build a new stadium.

 

What's the deal (Please forgive my possible ignorance here)

 

As far as I know Fenway Park isn't listed in any National or State or City historical building lists at the moment.

 

Even if it is part of the National Register of Historic Places it would totally fine to renovate it, add things and even tear it down. For example, Danvers State Hospital is on the national Register of Historic places and was recently renovated into apartments, and Northampton State Hospital was also on the National Register of Historic Places and was demolished a few years ago. Being on the list basically only means the owners get get things like tax breaks or incentives and things like that.

[onlybereaved]

Oh...Well that certainly conflicts with what the Fenway Park tour guide told us during our tour, May 30, 2011. They told us that as of the end of 2011, the park is to be considered a registered historical monument of Boston and that it could not be touched.

 

There were even strict stipulations regarding any sort of renovations - which is why they hustled to quickly get the new monster seats in, and looked to complete any fine tuning before they would no longer be able to.

 

The tour guide seemed pretty certain that this was the case.

 

:dunno:

[Elktonnick]

Oh...Well that certainly conflicts with what the Fenway Park tour guide told us during our tour, May 30, 2011. They told us that as of the end of 2011, the park is to be considered a registered historical monument of Boston and that it could not be touched.

 

There were even strict stipulations regarding any sort of renovations - which is why they hustled to quickly get the new monster seats in, and looked to complete any fine tuning before they would no longer be able to.

 

The tour guide seemed pretty certain that this was the case.

 

:dunno:

 

If it couldn't be touched, it certainly lessens its market value as real estate now doesn't it.

[onlybereaved]

That really depends on how you look at it. It is a matter of being subjective, I guess.

 

Same goes for any historical monument, like the library for example...They aren't worried about the real-estate re-sale value, as much as they are concerned about ensuring they preserve the monument and ensure that it is not leveled or re-vamped by some money-bags cats with no clue what it means to the city.

 

I really can't believe so many people in this thread are 'for' tearing down Fenway Park and building a state of the art place, or even 'for' renovating Fenway Park at all. I understand the argument(s) to a point - but yeah, no. I wouldn't ever agree with them.

[Spudboy]

I have heard this before' date=' but what is not legitimate about it? Are they doing some funny business with ticket brokers and scalpers?[/quote']

 

Yes. Something like that. They pre-sell big blocks of ticket to resellers like Stubhub and such. Whenever I go to a game I see entire sections that are empty while it is announce dthat the game is a sell-out. It's a f***ing joke. I do not claim to know all the details of this subject but something is hinky.

[Spudboy]

I'm a 34" waist. RF seats that face CF are stupid. Sitting there is an automatic neck ache. Seats where the pitcher's mound' date=' 2nd base, or other parts of the field are blocked out of view due to structural design is just plain stupid. Girth isn't an issue. The stadium is just outdated.[/quote']

 

Bingo. I can see SBF's opinion, though. I love the esthetics of the game and walking up into the bowl of the stadium is a natural high. But sitting in those cramped seats , even after I have lost 105 pounds is no f***ing picnic. The sight lines are not that good and many seats do not afford a view of the entire playing field. You are correct, the facility is very out dated. It will not be replaced anytime soon, however. The Sox recently (sometime in the past couple of years) purchased the "Air Rights" over the Mass Turnpike Extension. That is very interesting.

[Elktonnick]

Bingo. I can see SBF's opinion' date=' though. I love the esthetics of the game and walking up into the bowl of the stadium is a natural high. But sitting in those cramped seats , even after I have lost 105 pounds is no f***ing picnic. The sight lines are not that good and many seats do not afford a view of the entire playing field. You are correct, the facility is very out dated. It will not be replaced anytime soon, however. The Sox recently (sometime in the past couple of years) purchased the "Air Rights" over the Mass Turnpike Extension. That is very interesting.[/quote']

 

The big question is not if but when the RS have to replace Fenway park. I doubt it will be this ownership group that does so. The economy will rebound eventually. From a structural standpoint, I am sure the Red Sox have engineering and other consultants give them estimates how many more years they can get out of the structure. I thought I heard Lucchino make a comment on that regard once. I believe he said twenty years.

[a700hitter]

Bingo. I can see SBF's opinion' date=' though. I love the esthetics of the game and walking up into the bowl of the stadium is a natural high. But sitting in those cramped seats , even after I have lost 105 pounds is no f***ing picnic. The sight lines are not that good and many seats do not afford a view of the entire playing field. You are correct, the facility is very out dated. It will not be replaced anytime soon, however. The Sox recently (sometime in the past couple of years) purchased the "Air Rights" over the Mass Turnpike Extension. That is very interesting.[/quote']105 lbs! How the heck did you do that? How long did it take? Did you know off the weight having relations with the stunning young lady?

[onlybereaved]

So I apologize for my prior 2 posts...I used the incorrect term "Monument" and was at a loss for the correct term, which in this case would be "Landmark".

 

Apparently Fenway Park is "very close" to officially being considered a historical landmark of Boston. Once that happens (which is confirmed as inevitable, and soon-to-be), not only will it stay where it is, but even minor renovations will be a long drawn-out process that would have to be approved by up-tight dudes in suits n' ties and liberal hippy-douches', etc

 

Like it or disagree with it, you know the rest...

 

Go Red Sox!

[mvp 78]

Which will be more of a reason to build a new one. Just keep Fenway as is and build elsewhere.

[Spudboy]

105 lbs! How the heck did you do that? How long did it take? Did you know off the weight having relations with the stunning young lady?

 

I started living a Low Carb lifestyle on February 26, 2011. I have gone from a 54" to a 36" waist. I have hit a plateau recently so I have not lost any weight in the last month. I want to loose another 15 pounds. Yes, she was the motivation for the weight loss.

[a700hitter]

I started living a Low Carb lifestyle on February 26' date=' 2011. I have gone from a 54" to a 36" waist. I have hit a plateau recently so I have not lost any weight in the last month. I want to loose another 15 pounds. Yes, she was the motivation for the weight loss.[/quote']That's great! If you lose another 15 lbs you'll look so good that you'll be able to upgrade the girlfriend. She might be getting a little too old for you.

[Spudboy]

That's great! If you lose another 15 lbs you'll look so good that you'll be able to upgrade the girlfriend. She might be getting a little too old for you.

 

Really? You may have a point. She turns 22 in February. Maybe I should kick some tires on a newer model!

[seabeachfred]

Congratulaltions Spudboy; that was a helluva accomplishment and you have my deep admiration. It has to be tough putting yourself through such a regimen. Your girl had better appreciate what she's got. As far as my paeans to Fenway Park, glad you saw it was on an emotional level and I see you get the same high as I do when I see the ballpark. Eventually the Red Sox will move into a new state-of-the-art ballpark, but I just love to see neighborhood ballparks still in existence as Fenway and Wrigley. Being an old war horse, they do bring back some pleasant memories of my childhood in Queens before the family moved West.