6/24 @ Pittsburgh

[Youk Of The Nation]

No matter how much anyone might bitch about Francona, remember, it could be worse. Your favorite team could be managed by Clint Hurdle.

[iortiz]

On one hand' date=' he works with what he's given. His only other options were Drew and Reddick in the outfield. If it were me, I would probably have started McDonald and[b'] Cameron[/b] too, in hopes that the top half of the lineup would score enough and Lester would hold the weaker Pirates lineup down. Then, if needed, you have two marginally better outfielders available to PH late in the game. Honestly, the only decision he made that I disagree with is the order in which the last half of the lineup was constructed. I would have gone Scutaro-Tek-Cameron-Mcdonald instead of the other way around. But honestly, he doesn't have a lot to work with in the outfield until Crawford comes back.

 

What? wake up dude, this guy is .156 BA with zero discipline AB (.227 OBP and falling). JD is .228 BA a s*** BA as well but at least he has a decent .330 OBP.

 

He should go Reddick and Drew all day, every day, these days!, considering the available, plain and simple!

[FredLynn]

Again' date=' when you have a strong 1-5, it makes sense to hold off your better PH options just in case. If the Sox are down by one in the 8th, I don't want McDonald and Cameron to be the only PH options for the 9-spot with runners on.[/quote']

 

If the stronger lineup is in there to start the game there is a better chance that you won't NEED a pinch hitter. Pinch hitters get up once. If they start they get four ABs. Its was a dumb move in a long list of them for our witless manager.

[Youk Of The Nation]

If the stronger lineup is in there to start the game there is a better chance that you won't NEED a pinch hitter. Pinch hitters get up once. If they start they get four ABs. Its was a dumb move in a long list of them for our witless manager.

 

It's an NL park. Unless you want Matt Albers PHing with the team only up or down by one run, or tied, you're always going to need a new bat. And I'd rather it was Drew or Reddick than Cameron or McDonald.

[SoxFanForsyth]

f*** you scutaro.

[BostonSouth]

f***ing pitiful!

[d-money]

f***ing squander!!Thats what this team has been doing lately against these pitiful teams!!!

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Missed a big chance.

[d-money]

You needed at least 1 run there

[BornToRun]

We lose. Hanrahan is perfect on the year IIRC.

[a700hitter]

At least we have the top of the order coming up in the 9th. Hurdle was playing with fire pitching to Ortiz. Unfortunately, he didn't get burned.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Scutaro's at bat was one of the worst i've seen. Just make contact. That's all. Just make freaking contact.

[d-money]

I dont know what the f*** Scutaro was thinking there.That pinch hung up for awhile

[SoxFanForsyth]

3 consecutive losses to the Padres and the Pirates. Unbelievable.

[a700hitter]

We lose. Hanrahan is perfect on the year IIRC.

But he can get very hyped up and wild. I hope our guys are patient.

[Palodios]

It's an NL park. Unless you want Matt Albers PHing with the team only up or down by one run' date=' or tied, you're always going to need a new bat. And I'd rather it was Drew or Reddick than Cameron or McDonald.[/quote']

 

You only need 1-3 PH. One of those is David Ortiz. Then Salty who has been hitting well. Giving 1 AB to Sutton/Cameron/Mcdonald is better than giving them 8.

[BostonSouth]

Wake and Miller no guarantees, either..could be five in a row to SD and Pittsburgh!

[Palodios]

Do realize, the top 4 hitters start the 9th, so it isn't hopeless.

[Palodios]

Is Darnell hurt?!?

[FredLynn]

It's an NL park. Unless you want Matt Albers PHing with the team only up or down by one run' date=' or tied, you're always going to need a new bat. And I'd rather it was Drew or Reddick than Cameron or McDonald.[/quote']

 

So just so I understand your opinion, you would rather have Mike Cameron (.161/.514) and Darnell McDonald (.108/.364) get four ABs rather than Josh Reddick (.409/1.098) and Drew (.228/.656). It makes no sense to me, but hey, what do I know.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I cannot fathom how Scutaro strikes out LOOKING there. He freaking bailed on 3 sliders that were in the zone. How many times do you get fooled before you can read the freaking pitch. Be a f***ing professional for one time in your career.

[Youk Of The Nation]

You only need 1-3 PH. One of those is David Ortiz. Then Salty who has been hitting well. Giving 1 AB to Sutton/Cameron/Mcdonald is better than giving them 8.

 

I can see how that makes sense. But like I said, Francona doesn't have a lot to work with in the outfield. He's got Crawford, Ellsbury, and then what can be charitably described as 'a bunch of guys'. He needs another outfielder, and that's not on him, that's on the FO. I am sure they are going to do something about it by the deadline, but for the moment his options are limited, and he's taken the team from a horrid start to the second-best record in baseball with those same options. Gotta give him credit for that.

[d-money]

Well they could have help themselves by scoring at least 1 run.Scutaro f***ed up big time!Just make contact and get the run in

[FredLynn]

You only need 1-3 PH. One of those is David Ortiz. Then Salty who has been hitting well. Giving 1 AB to Sutton/Cameron/Mcdonald is better than giving them 8.

 

Ummm....YUP!

There is no longer any cogent reason for Mike Cameron to be penciled in to any lineup for this team. He should be released. He had his chance; it didn't work out. It happens.

[SoxFanForsyth]

i'm so pissed off at scutaro it's unbelievable. how do you have such a completely pathetic at bat with the tying runners on base!? what the hell is he thinking?!?

[FredLynn]

I can see how that makes sense. But like I said' date=' Francona doesn't have a lot to work with in the outfield. He's got Crawford, Ellsbury, and then what can be charitably described as 'a bunch of guys'. He needs another outfielder, and that's not on him, that's on the FO. I am sure they are going to do something about it by the deadline, but for the moment his options are limited, and he's taken the team from a horrid start to the second-best record in baseball with those same options. Gotta give him credit for that.[/quote']

 

His options ARE limited. He doesn't have that much to work with. But he is doing a poor job at managing what he DOES have to work with. He is accountable for this lineup tonite when there were clearly better options.

[a700hitter]

I can see how that makes sense. But like I said' date=' Francona doesn't have a lot to work with in the outfield. He's got Crawford, Ellsbury, and then what can be charitably described as 'a bunch of guys'. [b']He needs another outfielder, and that's not on him, that's on the FO. [/b]I am sure they are going to do something about it by the deadline, but for the moment his options are limited, and he's taken the team from a horrid start to the second-best record in baseball with those same options. Gotta give him credit for that.

Please don't be encouraging Doji to make another Che Hsuan Lin Thread

[Youk Of The Nation]

Please don't be encouraging Doji to make another Che Hsuan Lin Thread

 

I'm just saying.

[Youk Of The Nation]

...well, at least the Yankees lost.

[BornToRun]

If Cameron and McDonald are still on the roster at the end of June, I will be forced to make a phone call to Anton Chigurh