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WTF is in your bonehead TF? you're killing this team.

 

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5504/screenshot20110521at945.png

 

Your:

 

7 Rs deficit rule.

Insisting on D-McD.

Horrible Lineup/BP management.

 

STILL hurting this team.

 

STOP IT!

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Just curious, is that what the problem is with Lackey? Personal problems, or is he hiding an injury of some type? I havent payed much attention to the reasons as why Lackey is struggling, but its sure noticable lol.
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Lackey & McDonald ... Why was McDonald called up to PH for Reddick the other day? He had 3 LOB and 3 SO pretty sure... FAIL.

 

Miller NEEDS to prove himself against good teams and under more pressure. I am confident he can do this but we need to see it. Lackey sucks. End of story. You can't win a WS with this guy. We need #4 or #5 SP (depending on what you count Miller as)

 

Where is Doubront? Or someone... I think this is more important than RF (REDDICK!)

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Lackey is struggling, no question & think he really needs to be taken out of the rotation for a spell... but who to promote, either from the bullpen or from AAA... that's the dilemma. Being way over here in the UK, I've not much idea of who is available on the Sox minor league books, much less what the form is like.
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What the heck do you do with Lackey? Can't trade him, no one would want him. Can't leave him in the bullpen because it doesn't solve the problem -- honestly would you trust this guy even in the bullpen?Releasing him isn't great asset management because he could easily bounce back a year from now and at least give you Barry Zito type production. And if you leave him on the roster he's going to start every day and kill us.

 

So what the heck do you do?

 

My immediate answer is waive and demote, but that's a ton of money to eat.

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Most big money contracts require the player to accept a MiLB assignment. If you waive Lackey, he's gonna walk and you will have to pay him the entire contract. That isnt an option in yr 2 of a massive 5 yr deal. He's gonna end up on the DL with "elbow tightness" and probably be shut down for a few months "rehabbing" at home. I know that baseball is a mental game, but I am not sure if his wife is the sole cause of his troubles. His breaking ball lacks bite, his FB lost some velo and a significant amount of sink, and his change has been non-existant.
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• Lackey has the highest ERA in baseball among pitchers with 60 innings at 7.47. In fact, the next highest ERA is nearly two runs lower (Fausto Carmona at 5.78). He also has the highest home ERA in all of baseball -- an astounding 9.17 -- among pitchers who have thrown 20 innings in their own park.

 

• Lackey has given up five or more runs in nearly half of his starts this season (6 of 13).

 

• Since World War II, he’d currently have the highest ERA for a Red Sox pitcher at the All-Star break (minimum 50 innings). Jerry Casaler currently has that dubious distinction with his pre-break 6.89 ERA in 1960. Matt Clement’s 6.61 pre-break ERA in 2006 is currently second behind Casale. Lackey is scheduled to make one more start before the All-Star break.

 

• If his season ended right now, Lackey would have the second highest ERA in franchise history for a pitcher with at least 50 innings pitched. In 1937, Wes Ferrell had a 7.61 ERA for the Red Sox before he was traded to the Washington Senators along with his brother Rick. Ferrell salvaged his season by going 11-13 with a 3.94 ERA for Washington, but his Red Sox numbers stand out for their futility.

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Send him to BP and give him no-pressure innings by now in order to recover his confidence and btw letting clear his mind.

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• Lackey has the highest ERA in baseball among pitchers with 60 innings at 7.47. In fact, the next highest ERA is nearly two runs lower (Fausto Carmona at 5.78). He also has the highest home ERA in all of baseball -- an astounding 9.17 -- among pitchers who have thrown 20 innings in their own park.

 

• Lackey has given up five or more runs in nearly half of his starts this season (6 of 13).

 

• Since World War II, he’d currently have the highest ERA for a Red Sox pitcher at the All-Star break (minimum 50 innings). Jerry Casaler currently has that dubious distinction with his pre-break 6.89 ERA in 1960. Matt Clement’s 6.61 pre-break ERA in 2006 is currently second behind Casale. Lackey is scheduled to make one more start before the All-Star break.

 

• If his season ended right now, Lackey would have the second highest ERA in franchise history for a pitcher with at least 50 innings pitched. In 1937, Wes Ferrell had a 7.61 ERA for the Red Sox before he was traded to the Washington Senators along with his brother Rick. Ferrell salvaged his season by going 11-13 with a 3.94 ERA for Washington, but his Red Sox numbers stand out for their futility.

I am so old that I knew that if I couldn't remember a worse season for a Sox pitcher that it must be historic.:lol: And it is.
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Anyone who looked at the numbers kinda saw this coming with Lackey. Go look at his lifetime Fenway numbers. Even if you narrow it down to his pre-Red Sox nuimbers it's still very bad. Fenway is not the place he should have come.

 

My sense is that this is a player who needs to go to the National League and get his mojo back. Problem is there aren't a lot of really healthy NL franchises that could eat that kind of contract. Most of the big NL markets are broke, noncontenders, incompetently run, or otherwise not in the running for any kind of SP.

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DL him. I refuse to believe that he's just "lost it". He pitched alright last year, no quite what we were paying for but not terrible either. There's gotta be some sort of underlying issue here. Tommy John him or something. There's got to be a way for him to be a serviceable pitcher again.
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Anyone who looked at the numbers kinda saw this coming with Lackey.

 

 

There is nothing from Lackey's past performance that says "Oh, he's going to have the worst season in franchise history for a SP". He's having a terrible season, and needs to be phantom DLed for 60 days while he gets his s*** together. But don't say that statistical analsysis would indicate he would gain "worst pitcher ever" status.

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See my thread on the Lackey for Zito trade proposal. I don't think the Giants would be that stupid, but I would do it in a minute.

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