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Don't stop, don't stop, keep it going now....

 

Win.

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lol there should be "naked celebrity mojo" with the celebrity getting hotter with each and every win. ;)

 

Do we have to use pictures of naked dudes when we're losing? Because if so, I'm unregistering right now.

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Do we have to use pictures of naked dudes when we're losing? Because if so' date=' I'm unregistering right now.[/quote']

 

 

No, but if that's the quickest way to get you to unregister.... ;)

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Another good article from WEEI.com

 

http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2011/04/26/zero-for-three-sox-amidst-home-run-drought-in-third-spot/

 

In fact, the rotation has been good enough to mask some of the lineup’s early season shortcomings (though not all, as the highly scrutinized Carl Crawford and catchers can attest). Nonetheless, there are some interesting puzzles to the performance of the team’s offense through the first 25 days of the season, and few are greater than the team’s dreadful performance in the third spot in the lineup.

 

The Sox are one of two American League teams without a homer from the spot, joining the Rangers. The hitters in the third spot in the lineup have combined to hit .233 (10th among the AL’s 14 teams) with a .320 OBP (T-10th), .302 slugging mark (11th) and .622 OPS (12th).

 

But the vast majority of the at-bats in the third spot of the lineup have gone to first baseman Adrian Gonzalez. In 16 starts spanning 74 plate appearances, he is hitting .258 with a .338 OBP, .348 slugging mark, .686 OPS, four doubles and no homers.

 

That is in marked contrast to his five combined games in the fourth and fifth spots of the lineup, during which Gonzalez went 7-for-19 (.368) with a .429 OBP, .632 slugging mark and 1.061 OPS. His only homer of the season came while batting cleanup in the first week of the season – two games before he was installed as the third hitter in the lineup. Gonzalez’ current 16-game streak without a homer is tied for the sixth longest of his career. [/Quote]

 

As soon as Crawford shows some signs of promise (possibly even tonight), we need to have Craw 3 and Gonzo 4.

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I disagree. Gonzo has to be #3.

 

Why?? Why not have a leadoff guy in Ellsbury followed by 2 #2 hitters in Craw and Pedey, then go to your typical 3-4-5 hitters, but they're just shifted down a bit because you've got 3 perfect 1-2 hitters. Pedey can knock in runners. He's a .375 OBP guy, he walks as much as he strikes out, he hits .305+, why not put him in that 3 hole and give Gonzo Youk and Ortiz some extra ammo in front of them?

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Another good article from WEEI.com

 

http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2011/04/26/zero-for-three-sox-amidst-home-run-drought-in-third-spot/

 

 

 

 

 

As soon as Crawford shows some signs of promise (possibly even tonight), we need to have Craw 3 and Gonzo 4.

 

I like Crawford where he is at #7. I just don't think he's a #3 hitter on this team. I say this even if he's batting .300

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I like Crawford where he is at #7. I just don't think he's a #3 hitter on this team. I say this even if he's batting .300

 

That's fine. I absolutely 110% cannot disagree any more than I do with that comment. I don't see how you can have a .305 hitter who scored 110 runs last year in the 7 hole. That's mind boggling to me.

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That's fine. I absolutely 110% cannot disagree any more than I do with that comment. I don't see how you can have a .305 hitter who scored 110 runs last year in the 7 hole. That's mind boggling to me.
I have heard this theory from Gammons, who believes that his speed would be more useful hitting in front of singles hitters at the bottom of the order instead of hitting in front the big boppers. Big boppers don't like the bat taken out of their hands by a caught stealing.
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I have heard this theory from Gammons' date=' who believes that his speed would be more useful hitting in front of singles hitters at the bottom of the order instead of hitting in front the big boppers. Big boppers don't like the bat taken out of their hands by a caught stealing.[/quote']

 

Well the speed isn't only being used for stolen bases. If you go Ellsbury - Crawford - Pedroia, you have 2 guys who will have a full at bat to swipe a bag. If they don't want to steal, they're fast enough to score on a wall ball double from first. They would be incredibly valuable in front of Pedroia, who has always hit behind Ellsbury and clearly doesn't get bothered by a speedy guy on the bases. Over the past 2 seasons, Pedroia has seen 4.28 Pitches per Plate Appearance. Combine his long at bats with his ability to wear out the monster, along with Ells and Craw's ability to score from first on a wall ball double? It's the perfect recipe.

 

Also, like I said earlier, speed isn't only used on stolen bases. I'm sure when Gonzo hits a wall ball double, or smokes one over the first basemens head into the RF corner, he won't mind seeing Ellsbury or Crawford scoring from first base because he's got quick runners in front of him.

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That's fine. I absolutely 110% cannot disagree any more than I do with that comment. I don't see how you can have a .305 hitter who scored 110 runs last year in the 7 hole. That's mind boggling to me.

 

Bill Mueller won a batting title out of the 7 hoel for the Red Sox. They pushed the ALCS to seven games that year. OVer the course of a season you get what, like 50 less plate appearances in the #7 hole? I'd rather have been hitters like Pedroia, Youkilis or Gonzalez In the 2,3,4 hole. 1st or 5th? Would work, I actually liked him batting leadoff, but Crawford isn't a middle of the order hitter on this team.

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Well the speed isn't only being used for stolen bases. If you go Ellsbury - Crawford - Pedroia, you have 2 guys who will have a full at bat to swipe a bag. If they don't want to steal, they're fast enough to score on a wall ball double from first. They would be incredibly valuable in front of Pedroia, who has always hit behind Ellsbury and clearly doesn't get bothered by a speedy guy on the bases. Over the past 2 seasons, Pedroia has seen 4.28 Pitches per Plate Appearance. Combine his long at bats with his ability to wear out the monster, along with Ells and Craw's ability to score from first on a wall ball double? It's the perfect recipe.

 

Also, like I said earlier, speed isn't only used on stolen bases. I'm sure when Gonzo hits a wall ball double, or smokes one over the first basemens head into the RF corner, he won't mind seeing Ellsbury or Crawford scoring from first base because he's got quick runners in front of him.

It's not my theory. It's Gammons' theory. I prefer him leading off.
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