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Unfortunately we need a guy with a 45.00 ERA for the percentages to work in our favor this inning...

 

Yeah but even avoiding the shutout isn't as degrading

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f*** you Hale. And a HUGE f*** you to Okajima. You're the biggest f***ing piece of s*** on this roster.

 

oki is not on this team to get people out he is here to make sure there is an asian on this squad that people hate more than the dicer

 

plus his great dyed hair and mustache

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So they officially have come out and said that Cameron did not commit interference, and Ellsbury was out on the throw to 2nd.

 

Are you f***ing kidding me?!?! It wasn't even f***ing close!!!!!!! Those umps f***ed us so hard last night we're going to have a hard time walking today.

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This club seems out of whack. Too many LHd hitters. Not enough LHd pitchers. These guys are going to see every left handed pitcher on the planet the next six months.

Theo reminds me of Danny Ainge. Why do these GMs constantly mess with the chemistry?

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This club seems out of whack. Too many LHd hitters. Not enough LHd pitchers. These guys are going to see every left handed pitcher on the planet the next six months.

Theo reminds me of Danny Ainge. Why do these GMs constantly mess with the chemistry?

 

Everyone in this thread has been complaining about the hitting. But, the simple fact of the matter is, Anderson was pitching like an ace last night. When a lefthanded ace is on, he's going to be tough to beat, no matter who is batting against him-- and especially so when the umps completely f***ed the team over when it actually got baserunners.

 

Honestly, I'm probably happier with the results of this game than if they had won 15-12. They lost because they faced a good pitcher, but Lackey showed that he's still a good pitcher, and our rotation isn't complete toast afterall.

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Everyone in this thread has been complaining about the hitting. But, the simple fact of the matter is, Anderson was pitching like an ace last night. When a lefthanded ace is on, he's going to be tough to beat, no matter who is batting against him-- and especially so when the umps completely f***ed the team over when it actually got baserunners.

 

Honestly, I'm probably happier with the results of this game than if they had won 15-12. They lost because they faced a good pitcher, but Lackey showed that he's still a good pitcher, and our rotation isn't complete toast afterall.

 

Yeah, as long as Lackey doesn't have to pitch in the east. He's never had much success at fenway.

I'm not optimistic about the chemistry on this club--the imbalance in LHd hitting and pitching. Plus the reluctance to platoon Ortiz. That mindset is disturbing. And then there's Crawford batting 7th, Ellsbury 9th. Those guys have to be at the top of the lineup for this team to succeed.

I hope the optimists are right. A pity a lot of this stuff wasn't worked out in spring training.

The Yankees never seem to have these problems. Not with Steinbrenner holding the whip.

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Everyone in this thread has been complaining about the hitting. But, the simple fact of the matter is, Anderson was pitching like an ace last night. When a lefthanded ace is on, he's going to be tough to beat, no matter who is batting against him-- and especially so when the umps completely f***ed the team over when it actually got baserunners.

 

Honestly, I'm probably happier with the results of this game than if they had won 15-12. They lost because they faced a good pitcher, but Lackey showed that he's still a good pitcher, and our rotation isn't complete toast afterall.

 

Agree 110%. It sucks that we lost last night, and I very very very rarely do this, but the umps really f***ed us and beat us. Between the clear balk call on Pedroia (Suzuki was wanting help from the 3rd base ump, thought Gonzo may have broken the plane on his check swing), paired with the incredibly ridiculous confusion between the umpires on the interference call that ended up not being interference? I mean it was a bush league horse s*** job by the umpires. Ellsbury was in easy at 2nd base and would have tied the game on Salty's single, and we would have had men on 1st and 2nd with 2 outs for Lowrie. Oki would have never come in because it would have been a tie game, and we would have gotten to their bullpen. So, Anderson threw a great game, sure, but we won that game if the calls were even.

 

Having said that, all things considered, at this point of the season and after Lackey's past few games, I'd much rather see him throw 6 IP of 1 run baseball and be a tough luck loser because we ran into Anderson at the wrong time and the umps f***ed us, than to see Lackey go 4.2 and give up 7 runs, but win the game 14-11 and be thinking "WTF is wrong with Lackey". It's one loss, but if that one loss gets the ball rolling for him and he turns in 6 wins in his next 8 outings, it's worth it. And I think that's what is happening.

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Yeah' date=' as long as Lackey doesn't have to pitch in the east. He's never had much success at fenway.[/quote']

 

Last year, Lackey had a 4.34 ERA at home, vs a 4.45 ERA on the road, I think his struggles at home are often times overstated.

 

I'm not optimistic about the chemistry on this club--the imbalance in LHd hitting and pitching. Plus the reluctance to platoon Ortiz. That mindset is disturbing.

 

The lefties on our team yesterday combined to go 4/11 yesterday (.364). When you have lefties that can hit lefties, it's not a problem. Also, Ortiz went 1/3 yesterday, better than any right handed batter on the team other than Salty. Ortiz this year is hitting .364 vs LHP and .200 vs RHP, so there's absolutely no reason to platoon him for the time being.

 

And then there's Crawford batting 7th, Ellsbury 9th. Those guys have to be at the top of the lineup for this team to succeed.

 

Crawford is hitting .143 with a .182 OBP. Ellsbury is hitting .196 with a .281 OBP. They're right where they need to be for now. Now, when they start hitting, I completely agree that they need to be at the top of the line up.

 

I hope the optimists are right. A pity a lot of this stuff wasn't worked out in spring training.

The Yankees never seem to have these problems.

 

Hey. Yanks got walked off on yesterday. There is a God!

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So they officially have come out and said that Cameron did not commit interference, and Ellsbury was out on the throw to 2nd.

 

Are you f***ing kidding me?!?! It wasn't even f***ing close!!!!!!! Those umps f***ed us so hard last night we're going to have a hard time walking today.

He got tagged after he popped up at the end of his slide. Ridiculous.
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He got tagged after he popped up at the end of his slide. Ridiculous.

 

Apparently the placement of the tag doesn't matter anymore either, because he was tagged midway up his thigh, about 5 inches from the bag. Apparently that 2 foot span of leg ahead of it didn't touch the bag.

 

Just f***ing ridiculous.

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Yeah, as long as Lackey doesn't have to pitch in the east. He's never had much success at fenway.

I'm not optimistic about the chemistry on this club--the imbalance in LHd hitting and pitching. Plus the reluctance to platoon Ortiz. That mindset is disturbing. And then there's Crawford batting 7th, Ellsbury 9th. Those guys have to be at the top of the lineup for this team to succeed.

I hope the optimists are right. A pity a lot of this stuff wasn't worked out in spring training.

The Yankees never seem to have these problems. Not with Steinbrenner holding the whip.

No, they don't have to be at the top of the lineup. This is an archaic way of thinking. Speed at the top is outdated, a philosophy from the era of baseball that overvalued certain skills that didn't correlate to scoring more runs, an era when many thought it was better to put the ball in play, regarless of the result, over taking a walk. You need guys who get on base in front of your best hitters. They aren't getting on base. That said, you also need your best hitters to play to their talents, and over 16 games, Gonzo and Youk haven't done that. So it's more than who the Sox have hitting at the top of the lineup.

 

And, it's BS that the Yankees never seem to have these problems. In the last decade, the Yankees have been notoriously slow starters relative to their overall final record.

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