2011 Yankee Gamethread

[Palodios]

Jeter and Haren ... two decisions they'll regret for awhile.

 

What's Haren's record against Boston this year?

[jacksonianmarch]

Who cares. The offer on the table apparently was Joba and Nova, and I would have taken that in a heartbeat. Regardless, Cashman is in his final yr under contract meaning he either packs it in this yr and lets the kids play it out, or he goes for broke and decimates our system. It's just very, very disappointing that a team with such high profile players could all slump at the same time. Cano, Tex, Jeter, ARod, Swisher, Posada, Gardner, Martin, and even Andruw Jones are sucking compared to career standards. No midseason deal will fix that. Either they play better, or they go down

 

Regardless, I know Cashman is in a "fight for your job" predicament, but I hope he stands firm and goes with a few cheap plugins (cheap in terms of prospect cost) to fill holes and lets the depth in the minors get a shot. With the way teams are locking up players early, the big time FA's arent hitting the market and the big time signing are going to be down. We wont see another CC hit the market for awhile. So, you gotta develop them, and we cannot do that if we demolish every prospect coming up. If we struggle for the rest of the season, we should look into a rebuild. If we come out and start playing like champs again, then maybe you give it one last push for a title with a big time acquisition. I have said it since 2004, this team needs a true rebuild. They got theirs in the form of 3 high profile signing in 2009 which won them a championship, but in order to get dynastic again, they need to start moving kids into spots and seeing how they perform. Build around CC, Grandy, and Cano, hope that Tex can get back to his .900OPS 35HR 120RBI norms and see what happens

[Palodios]

You do understand that your whole team can't have career years every year, right? Tex/Cano/Gardner are all fairly close to where their numbers should be, and A-rod is turning 36 soon

[jacksonianmarch]

Uh what?

 

Cano's OPS is down from 09 and '10 and his BA would be the second worst of his 7 yr career

 

Tex is 40 points off his career OPS, 30 points down in BA, and is 30 points off his career SLG.

 

Gardner's OPS is carried by his 3HRs in a short period of time. Otherwise, his BA and OBP was 30 points and 50 points off from last yr.

 

The above 3 are underperforming, they arent totally sucking

 

Swisher is totally sucking. His OPS is nearly 200 points lower than his career line

 

Posada is totally sucking, he's nearly 200 points off as well, although I dont think he will recover

 

ARod is 36, but came out like wildfire before hurting his oblique. I do think the swing changes he made to counter that injury have led him here. Regardless, he isnt a .781OPS player. I think anyone can agree with that.

 

Martin is hitting .125 this month. Jeter's OPS is down nearly 90 points from last yr's career low.

 

Regardless, this offense is BAD right now, but they should see a significant boost once they start performing to career norms. That being said, they havent shown much life to this point, especially when down, and they arent piling on while up, which is leading to all the blown leads. We're in trouble

[jacksonianmarch]

So the Yankees lose Soriano to the DL and we bring up Chris f***ing Dickerson? Really? Take a look at Justin Maxwell's AAA numbers and compare them to the anemic Dickerson and see who should have been f***ing called up

[jacksonianmarch]

This was as predictable as it comes. Nova at 90 pitches through 5, has a 2-1 lead and about to face the lineup for a 3rd time around. Why cant he go to his pen without the bases loaded for f***ing once in his life and try to secure a win?

[jacksonianmarch]

He is such a lucky f***

[Palodios]

Uh what?

 

Cano's OPS is down from 09 and '10 and his BA would be the second worst of his 7 yr career

 

Tex is 40 points off his career OPS, 30 points down in BA, and is 30 points off his career SLG.

 

Gardner's OPS is carried by his 3HRs in a short period of time. Otherwise, his BA and OBP was 30 points and 50 points off from last yr.

 

The above 3 are underperforming, they arent totally sucking

 

Swisher is totally sucking. His OPS is nearly 200 points lower than his career line

 

Posada is totally sucking, he's nearly 200 points off as well, although I dont think he will recover

 

ARod is 36, but came out like wildfire before hurting his oblique. I do think the swing changes he made to counter that injury have led him here. Regardless, he isnt a .781OPS player. I think anyone can agree with that.

 

Martin is hitting .125 this month. Jeter's OPS is down nearly 90 points from last yr's career low.

 

Regardless, this offense is BAD right now, but they should see a significant boost once they start performing to career norms. That being said, they havent shown much life to this point, especially when down, and they arent piling on while up, which is leading to all the blown leads. We're in trouble

 

Are you kidding me? Cano is hitting ABOVE career averages. Texiera OPS is 3% off from career averages, who cares? Martin was damaged goods, Posada is a 39 year old catcher, and Gardner's stats are still recovering from an early season slump. A-rod is hurt, and even if, his stats have been declining for a few years now because he's 36 years old and doesn't have the benefit of steroids anymore. The only player that is truly slumping is Swisher, and Granderson is making up for him.

[jacksonianmarch]

Cano is not above his last 2 seasons. He's entered his prime, his early career numbers are irrelevant.

 

In terms of Teixeira, you arent doing the math right. Currently, his BA is 11% off career norms, his OPS is down 4%. If you go back to his first yr in pinstripes, his OPS is down by 7.3% and BA down 14%

[yankees228]

I expect Cano's OBP to improve (at least into the .350s) and his SLG to stay relatively the same (at least .510). Based on his last two years and his current BABIP (compared to his career average), I find those expectations to be reasonable.

[jacksonianmarch]

Regardless, Robertson continues to be nasty when he gets the ball over the plate. Good to see Joba get that last out. Regardless, Girardi got f***ing lucky trying to extend the rook. Nova pitched well enough to win, but not well enough to be given a long leash in the 6th with us on a 6 game losing streak

[yankees228]

Regardless' date=' Robertson continues to be nasty when he gets the ball over the plate. Good to see Joba get that last out. Regardless, Girardi got f***ing lucky trying to extend the rook. Nova pitched well enough to win, but not well enough to be given a long leash in the 6th with us on a 6 game losing streak[/quote']

 

When did you want him to go to Robertson?

[Palodios]

Cano is not above his last 2 seasons. He's entered his prime, his early career numbers are irrelevant.

 

In terms of Teixeira, you arent doing the math right. Currently, his BA is 11% off career norms, his OPS is down 4%. If you go back to his first yr in pinstripes, his OPS is down by 7.3% and BA down 14%

 

My math is just fine, I rounded down. Tex has one good day, and he's above those numbers. Complaining about small differences in May really isn't constructive. And as I mentioned earlier, not every player will have a career year every year, so comparing stats to one isolated year is not constructive either. The only player you have any case with for underperformance is Swisher.

[jacksonianmarch]

It's not one "isolated" yr on either end. Tex was a .950 Ops guy for 2 yrs prior to Ny and continued that in 09. Last yr was one of the worst of his career. And Cano just entered his prime. His last 2 yrs are a he'll of a lot more relevant than what he did 6 yrs ago

[yankees228]

No idea why that isn't a HR. The rule is obviously flawed because the catwalk didn't prevent that from being a HR, but based on the rule, that seems pretty clear cut.

[Palodios]

It's not one "isolated" yr on either end. Tex was a .950 Ops guy for 2 yrs prior to Ny and continued that in 09. Last yr was one of the worst of his career. And Cano just entered his prime. His last 2 yrs are a he'll of a lot more relevant than what he did 6 yrs ago

 

These are moot points. One good game, and any of these guys are right where they need to be.

[jacksonianmarch]

Colon was masterful tonight.

[boston22407]

Colon was masterful tonight.

 

cheating helps

[jacksonianmarch]

Cheating? Really, you gonna stoop to that?

[boston22407]

it is what it is

[boston22407]

lol MO blows the save

[a700hitter]

Major squander by the O's in the 11th inning against Boone Logan.

[yankees228]

Joe has to stop bunting.

[Palodios]

Cheating? Really' date=' you gonna stoop to that?[/quote']

 

His surgery doesn't seem even a little bit fishy to you?

[italstallianion]

Damn the Orioles keep blowing opportunities. It's as if our offense pinch hit for theirs.

[Cocos Disciples]

I'm in Baltimore right now and it is pouring. I have tickets to Saturday's game (O's-Nats), it better stop by then.

[boston22407]

Sit down -aroid!

[yankees228]

They're giving up the run ... nice job Alex.

[boston22407]

sit down dick!

[yankees228]

Brutal team.