Red Sox Spring Training thread

[Keeper]

If there is any legitimacy to the rumor, the Sox will soon start a subtle smear campaign against Youk, just like they did with Bay. "Injury risk" would probably be the tactic.

[Dipre]

I would actually take Youk over Gonzo when factoring in Youk's positional versatility

 

Not to mention contractual status.

[Dipre]

If there is any legitimacy to the rumor' date=' the Sox will soon start a subtle smear campaign against Youk, just like they did with Bay. "Injury risk" would probably be the tactic.[/quote']

 

Fight-starter?

 

Showing videos in the media of the fight with the Tigers and the shove-contest with Manny?:dunno:

[Keeper]

Fight-starter?

 

Showing videos in the media of the fight with the Tigers and the shove-contest with Manny?:dunno:

 

Yeah, that's definitely another possibility. The media would then portray him as someone with a bad attitude.

[Spudboy]

In before Doiji:

 

A Three-Team trade in which you give up Youk plus other talent to get A-Gon is a marginal upgrade unless they get significant talent in return besides Gonzales, and it doesn't seem plausible.

 

Yup.

[BSN07]

Let me start by saying I have no issue with Youk at all and am not advocating a trade.

 

But I have always had a concern about how well he will age. Not a major concern, but noteworthy. I mean the man stands in the absolute limits of the batters box to give himself extra time. What happens when he looses a little reaction time? I mean he can't go any further back in the box to make up for lost bat speed. I'm not saying he will become completely inadequate at the plate. But if he regress's even some he will be an average 1B as far as offense goes. And many might feel different about trading him.

 

I don't believe any player to be "untouchable". But with Youks current production and contract, I don't see a trade happening at the moment. As far as down the road? I could see to some scenario's leading to him being traded I suppose.

[italstallianion]

Let me start by saying I have no issue with Youk at all and am not advocating a trade.

 

But I have always had a concern about how well he will age. Not a major concern, but noteworthy. I mean the man stands in the absolute limits of the batters box to give himself extra time. What happens when he looses a little reaction time? I mean he can't go any further back in the box to make up for lost bat speed. I'm not saying he will become completely inadequate at the plate. But if he regress's even some he will be an average 1B as far as offense goes. And many might feel different about trading him.

 

I don't believe any player to be "untouchable". But with Youks current production and contract, I don't see a trade happening at the moment. As far as down the road? I could see to some scenario's leading to him being traded I suppose.

 

 

 

 

I agree, Epstein's smart enough to make anyone available at the right price.

[Spudboy]

I agree' date=' Epstein's smart enough to make anyone available at the right price.[/quote']

 

Epstein has stated that anyone is subject to trade. That would include Youk.

 

I'm with J_E. Youk is just too good at first and third. And arguably the Sox's best offensive player. Unless Albert is coming in return, I don't see it happening.

[italstallianion]

Epstein has stated that anyone is subject to trade. That would include Youk.

 

I'm with J_E. Youk is just too good at first and third. And arguably the Sox's best offensive player. Unless Albert is coming in return, I don't see it happening.

 

 

I agree. Youk is one of the last few that I'd ever consider trading. My point was that every man has his price, and that nobody is untouchable for the right price.

[Keeper]

Eh, I'd say Pedroia and Lester are untouchable.

[Lester82]

Come on, Jed Lowrie is pretty untouchable. Mainly because he can't seem to enter a baseball park without feeling sick. Untouchable.

[riverside sluggers]

Updated stats (includes college games)

 

Batting

 

Jeremy Hermida- 14 for 34 (.412 avg) 3 Doubles, HR, 6 RBIs, 6 Runs, 3 Walks, 6 Ks

Mike Cameron- 12 for 30 (.400 avg) 4 Doubles, 2 HRs, 5 RBIs, 3 Runs, 6 Walks, 8 Ks

Dustin Pedroia- 14 for 38 (.368 avg) 5 Doubles, HR, 8 RBIs, 8 Runs, 2 Walks, 6 Ks

Jason Varitek- 5 for 14 (.357 avg) 3 Doubles, Run, 2 Walks, 2 Ks

Kevin Youkilis- 10 for 32 (.313 avg) 3 Doubles, HR, 6 RBIs, 3 Runs, 2 Walks, 3 Ks

Tug Hulett- 9 for 31 (.290 avg) 4 Doubles, HR, 8 RBIs, 4 Runs, 3 Walks, 5 Ks

Jacoby Ellsbury- 9 for 32 (.281 avg) 2 HRs, 6 RBIs, 5 Runs, 4 Walks, 8 Ks, SB

Victor Martinez, 10 for 35 (.286 avg) 3 Doubles, HR, 3 RBIs, 5 Runs, 2 Walks

David Ortiz- 10 for 42 (.238 avg) Double, 3 HRs, 6 RBIs, 4 Runs, 5 Walks, 9 Ks

Adrian Beltre- 6 for 28 (.214 avg) RBI, Run, 3 Walks, 2 Ks

Bill Hall- 7 for 36 (.194 avg) 2 Doubles, HR, 5 RBIs, 4 Runs, 3 Walks, 8 Ks

Marco Scutaro- 6 for 31 (.194 avg) Double, HR, RBI, 3 Runs, 5 Walks, 4 Ks

J.D. Drew- 4 for 26 (.154 avg) Triple, RBI, Run, 2 Walks, 5 Ks

Mike Lowell, 1 for 10 (.100 avg) 2 Ks

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Ray Chang- 2 for 2 (1.000 avg) HR, 3 RBIs, 2 Runs

Ryan Dent- 1 for 1 (1.000 avg) Run, Walk

Gustavo Molina- 5 for 6 (.833 avg) Double, 2 RBIs, Run, Walk

Peter Hissey- 4 for 6 (.667 avg) 2 RBIs, 2 Runs, K

Derrick Gibson- 1 for 2 (.500 avg) 2 RBIs, Run

Christopher McGuiness- 1 for 2 (.500 avg) RBI, Run, K

Matt Sheely- 2 for 4 (.500 avg) 2 Doubles, RBI, 2 Runs, Walk

Nate Spears- 3 for 6 (.500 avg) 2 Runs, Walk, K

Darnell McDonald- 7 for 15 (.467 avg) 4 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 8 Runs, 2 Walks, 2 Ks, SB

Mark Wagner- 7 for 15 (.467 avg) 2 Doubles, 2 Triples, HR, 3 RBIs, 5 Runs, Walk, K

Brett Harper- 2 for 5 (.400 avg) Double, RBI, Run, K

Ryan Khoury- 2 for 5 (.400 avg) 2 RBIs, 3 Runs, Walk, K

Jose Iglesias- 5 for 13 (.385 avg) Double, HR, 6 RBIs, 4 Runs, K

Gil Velazquez- 8 for 21 (.381 avg) 2 Doubles, 9 RBIs, 2 Runs, 3 Ks

Josh Reddick- 16 for 43 (.372 avg) 7 Doubles, Triple, HR, 7 RBIs, 10 Runs, 2 Walks, 8 Ks

Dusty Brown- 6 for 18 (.333 avg) Double, 4 RBIs, Run, 3 Walks, 2 Ks

Oscar Tejeda- 1 for 3 (.333 avg) Double, RBI, 2 Runs, K

Yamaico Navarro, 7 for 23 (.304 avg) 3 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 3 Runs, Walk, 4 Ks

Luis Expositio- 3 for 10 (.300 avg) 2 Doubles, 4 RBIs, 3 Runs

Jeremy Hazelbaker- 3 for 10 (.300 avg) 3 Runs, 2 Walks, K

Jed Lowrie- 3 for 10 (.300 avg) Double, RBI, Run, 2 Walks, K

Ryan Kalish- 4 for 15 (.267 avg) 2 RBIs, 4 Runs, 5 Walks, 5 Ks

Che Hsuan Lin- 5 for 20 (.250 avg) Double, 4 RBIs, 3 Runs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks

Daniel Nava- 1 for 4 (.250 avg) RBI, 2 Runs, K

Bubba Bell- 2 for 9 (.222 avg) Double, 3 Runs, 4 Walks, 3 Ks

Angel Sanchez- 7 for 32 (.219 avg) Triple, 5 RBIs, 3 Runs, 5 Walks, 4 Ks

Aaron Bates- 5 for 29 (.172 avg) Double, 2 RBIs, 2 Runs, 2 Walks, 10 Ks

Jorge Jimenez, 4 for 24 (.167 avg) 2 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 3 Runs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks

Jason Place- 1 for 6 (.167 avg) Double, RBI, 3 Ks

Anthony Rizzo- 1 for 8 (.125 avg) 3 Ks

Lars Anderson- 1 for 22 (.045 avg) RBI, 5 Runs, 4 Walks, 5 Ks

Ronald Bermudez- 0 for 2, K

Chih-Hsien Chiang- 0 for 1

Mitch Dening, 0 for 1

Drew Dominguez, 0 for 1

Reid Engel, 0 for 1

Ino Guerrero- 0 for 2

Alex Hassan- 0 for 3, K

William Holmes, Run

David Mailman, 0 for 3, K

Jeff Natale, 0 for 1

 

Pitching

 

John Lackey (1-0, 0.00 ERA)- 9 innings, 5 Hits, 3 Ks

Manny Delcarmen (1-0, 1.29 ERA)- 7 innings, 3 Hits, Run, 3 Walks, K

Daniel Bard (1.48 ERA)- 6.1 innings, 2 Hits, Run, 7 Ks

Hideki Okajima (2.54 ERA)- 7.1 innings, 6 Hits, 2 Runs, Walk, 7 Ks

Tim Wakefield (2-1, 3.41 ERA)- 13.2 innings, 14 Hits, 5 Runs, 2 Walks, 5 Ks

Josh Beckett (1-0, 4.12 ERA)- 13.1 innings, 11 Hits, 6 Runs, 4 Walks, 14 Ks

Jon Lester (0-2, 5.54 ERA)- 13 innings, 13 Hits, 9 Runs (8 ER), 5 Walks, 14 Ks

Jonathan Papelbon (6.34 ERA)- 7.1 innings, 7 Hits, 6 Runs (5 ER), 3 Walks, 4 Ks

Clay Buchholz (0-1, 7.06 ERA)- 10.2 innings, 11 Hits, 9 Runs (8 ER), 6 Walks, 9 Ks

Boof Bonser (1-1, 10.13 ERA)- 8 innings, 11 Hits, 9 Runs, 4 Walks, 8 Ks

Ramon Ramirez (10.50 ERA)- 6 innings, 7 Hits, 7 Runs, 4 Walks, 5 Ks

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Felix Doubront (0.00 ERA)- 8 innings, 3 Hits, 2 Walks, 6 Ks

Alan Embree (0.00 ERA)- 1 inning, K

Tommy Hottovy (0.00 ERA)- 2 innings, 2 Hits, 2 Ks

Casey Kelly (1-0, 0.00 ERA)- 3 innings, Walk, 3 Ks

Robert Manuel (1 save, 0.00 ERA)- 3.1 innings, 2 Hits, 2 Walks, 5 Ks

Chad Paronto (0.00 ERA)- 1.2 innings, Walk, K

Scott Patterson (1-0, 1 save, 0.00 ERA)- 2 innings, Walk, K

Kyle Weiland (0.00 ERA)- 3 innings, Hit, Walk, 3 Ks

Brian Shouse (1-0, 0.99 ERA)- 9.1 innings, 8 Hits, 2 Runs (1 ER), Walk, 6 Ks

Scott Atchison (1-0, 2.22 ERA)- 8.1 innings, 7 Hits, 3 Runs (2 ER), Walk, 5 Ks

Fabio Castro (2.57 ERA)- 7 innings, 6 Hits, 2 Runs, Walk, 6 Ks

Joe Nelson (1 save, 1-0, 3.00 ERA)- 9 innings, 6 Hits, 3 Runs, 3 Walks, 12 Ks

Michael Bowden (1 save, 4.50 ERA)- 10 innings, 10 Hits, 6 Runs (5 ER), 3 Walks, 6 Ks

Jorge Sosa (0-1, 5.40 ERA)- 5 innings, 8 Hits, 3 Runs, 5 Ks

Ramon A. Ramirez (1-1, 7.26 ERA)- 6.2 innings, 9 Hits, 5 Runs, 7 Walks, 3 Ks

Randor Bierd (8.57 ERA)- 2.1 innings, 4 Hits, 3 Runs (2 ER), 3 Ks

Junichi Tazawa (1 save, 9.00 ERA)- 8 innings, 10 Hits, 8 Runs, Walk, 7 Ks

Dustin Richardson (12.27 ERA)- 2.2 innings, 5 Hits, 3 Runs, Walk, K

Fernando Cabrera (13.85 ERA)- 5.2 innings, 7 Hits, 6 Runs, 3 Walks, 6 Ks

Adam Mills (0-1, 20.25 ERA)- 4 innings, 12 Hits, 10 Runs (9 ER), Walk, 3 Ks

T.J. Large (22.50 ERA)- 1.2 innings, 5 Hits, 3 Runs

Kris Johnson (0-1, 27.00 ERA)- 1 inning, 4 Hits, 3 Runs

Ryne Miller (27.00 ERA)- 1 inning, 2 Hits, 3 Runs, 2 Walks

[BSN07]

So who does everyone think is the Opening day starter?

 

I think it will be Beckett.

[BoSox21]

I personally think that title is overrated but I'll say Lester

[riverside sluggers]

So who does everyone think is the Opening day starter?

 

I think it will be Beckett.

 

rotoworld said that Beckett is preparing for his opening day start in Boston. But theres no link that says its confirmed

[BSN07]

I don't see them snubbing Beckett as the "Opening day" Starter. Especially while they are trying to extend him.

 

I agree the title is a touch overrated.

[italstallianion]

To be honest, I think that "Ace" more describes the talent of the starter rather than the position in which they are starting. That way, I think that it is possible for team's to have multiple aces, regardless of the fact that there can only be one #1 starter.

[riverside sluggers]

I think its a good debate when we cant decide who will be the true ace of the staff

 

EDIT: Its looking like even tho Embree has just pitched one game, which was an inning vs Baltimore Triple A team... that he has a good shot of making it on the opening day roster

[Dipre]

I think its a good debate when we cant decide who will be the true ace of the staff

 

EDIT: Its looking like even tho Embree has just pitched one game, which was an inning vs Baltimore Triple A team... that he has a good shot of making it on the opening day roster

 

f*** that.

[riverside sluggers]

Just the articles Im reading and watching Nesn. One of those "sentimental" crap additions to the roster. Then after a month theyll sumbit to their mistake and DFA him. Shouse, Nelson and Atchison are having decent full ST's

[Dipre]

Just the articles Im reading and watching Nesn. One of those "sentimental" crap additions to the roster. Then after a month theyll sumbit to their mistake and DFA him. Shouse' date=' Nelson and Atchison are having decent [u']full[/u] ST's

 

Atchison has looked filthy from both his stats and everything i've read.

[BSN07]

I think its a good debate when we cant decide who will be the true ace of the staff

 

Yes I agree.

[BoSox21]

That's crazy, I could've sworn I woke up this morning and saw that the Sox had signed Julian Tavarez on SportsCenter. I just realized I was dreaming though.

[Keeper]

This isn't related to the Sox, but it is related to Spring Training. I was looking at the box scores yesterday and noticed Kyle Farnsworth started a game for the Royals. He went 5 innings. Is this what it has come to for the Royals? Kyle Farnsworth as a SP?

[italstallianion]

That's crazy' date=' I could've sworn I woke up this morning and saw that the Sox had signed Julian Tavarez on SportsCenter. I just realized I was dreaming though.[/quote']

 

 

 

That would have been hilarious, unless the Red Sox actually intended on using him in games. Then it's not so funny.

[Spudboy]

I wish MLB had 10 day contracts like the NBA. Maybe they do and I don't know about it?

 

In any case, I think it would be really cool to sign both Farnsworth and Tavares to such contracts that would coincide with a Yankees series.

 

Imagine Tavares plunking A-Rod and the resulting bench clearing brawl! Farnsworth could run on to the field and pummel purple lips.

 

Oh the joy I would feel.

[WhiskeyBreath]

So who does everyone think is the Opening day starter?

 

I think it will be Beckett.

 

I think it will be Beckett as well. I really don't care who it is to be honest. Beckett or Lester would both be fine with me.

[yeszir]

I just read somewhere today that Beckett was definitely going to start the opener.

 

I dunno if it was just someone passing opinion as fact or what though...

[BoSox21]

Read this today from Peter Abraham...

 

Terry Francona was talking this morning about the team's travel plans for the game in Washington on April 3.

 

All the players will travel. "Even Beckett," he said.

 

Meaning, of course, that Beckett will start the next day in the opener against the Yankees.

 

Francona wouldn't say more as he wants to lay out the entire rotation first.

[WhiskeyBreath]

How has Manny been throwing? I've looked at his stats and noticed he only has one punch out. Has he lost velocity?