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[The_Destroyah]

Yes he has.

 

At one stage his O-Line was on pace for most sacks in a season. The O-Line has currently allowed 49 sacks, 1st in the league.

 

The Bills and Chiefs 2nd with 44. Steelers are "3rd" with 43.

 

 

And call me a homer, but I honestly believe Ronnie Brown, if he had've stayed healthy, would be in the Top 5 list for RB of the Year.

 

Yeah and Miami would have been a much more dangerous team for the playoffs, they are one of those teams that even if you beat them everyone gets beat up, not a fan of Miami, but Im a huge fan of the smash mouth football they play.

[TheMino007]

I wouldn't call the wild cat smash mouth football....

[italstallianion]

Yes he has.

 

At one stage his O-Line was on pace for most sacks in a season. The O-Line has currently allowed 49 sacks, 1st in the league.

 

The Bills and Chiefs 2nd with 44. Steelers are "3rd" with 43.

 

 

And call me a homer, but I honestly believe Ronnie Brown, if he had've stayed healthy, would be in the Top 5 list for RB of the Year.

 

 

 

As a player that was on my fantasy team this year, I think he would have an outside shot at top 5 running backs of the year, at the expense of taking a potential comeback player of the year away from Ricky Williams.

[LegendX]

I wouldn't call the wild cat smash mouth football....

 

What would you call it? A Gimmick? LOL!

[The_Destroyah]

I wouldn't call the wild cat smash mouth football....

 

with Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams running the ball so much plus that defense it is, they don't run the Wild Cat as much as people think, and you can play smash mouth football out of the Wild Cat.

[The_Destroyah]

I wouldn't call the wild cat smash mouth football....

 

"I always view the game against the Dolphins as one of the toughest of the year. They play smashmouth football offensively. They're looking to run the ball. Defensively, they always give the Patriots problems, and they do it by getting pressure on Tom Brady." Teddy Bruschi

are you calling Bruschi a liar? that would put you at odds with many New Englanders on this message board lol

[TheMino007]

Having an I formation with a fullback blocking in front of the RB who gets a direct hand off from the QB who then runs in between the tackles is smash mouth football, not having the RB in the shotgun and the Pat White coming off the bench from time to time to make stupid plays and fumble the ball

[LegendX]

Having an I formation with a fullback blocking in front of the RB who gets a direct hand off from the QB who then runs in between the tackles is smash mouth football' date=' not having the RB in the shotgun and the Pat White coming off the bench from time to time to make stupid plays and fumble the ball[/quote']

 

Uhh... Miami does use the I Formation. You should know a number of things like how the O-Line prefers more convetional running as opposed to the Wildcat. You should also know that even before Ronnie Brown got injured, the Wildcat plays were getting limited and that Miami was kicking ass using "conventional" formations...

 

... Then again... The Wildcat is just a "gimmick".

 

designating or of a style of football characterized by rough, aggressive play and, typically, strong offensive rushing

 

http://www.yourdictionary.com/smash-mouth

 

a smashmouth offense is an offensive system that relies on a strong running game, where most of the plays run by the offense are handoffs to the fullback or tailback.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smashmouth_offense

 

Wildcat rushing plays included.

 

An offensive philosophy of football in which the style of play is to put consistent pressure on the defense by running the ball

 

 

No matte rhow you look at it, the Wildcat is smashmouth football...

[The_Destroyah]

Having an I formation with a fullback blocking in front of the RB who gets a direct hand off from the QB who then runs in between the tackles is smash mouth football' date=' not having the RB in the shotgun and the Pat White coming off the bench from time to time to make stupid plays and fumble the ball[/quote']

 

HOW DARE YOU CALL BRUSCHI A LIAR, HE IS A SAINT!!! lol I just meant their tendency to run more than every other NFL team more than I meant they played Old School Smash Mouth Football I think nowadays Miami is the closest thing to Smash mouth football considering their running game and strong defense.

[LegendX]

Added Knowshon Moreno to Best Rookie RB list... Cant believe I forgot him.

[LegendX]

HOW DARE YOU CALL BRUSCHI A LIAR' date=' HE IS A SAINT!!! lol I just meant their tendency to run more than every other NFL team more than I meant they played Old School Smash Mouth Football I think nowadays Miami is the closest thing to Smash mouth football considering their running game and strong defense.[/quote']

 

if you want to really talk "old school smashmouth football" then the Wildcat most certainly is Smashmouth Football, considering it was used in the 60's and 70's by a number of teams and it was used a lot more than what the Dolphins did with it.

[The_Destroyah]

if you want to really talk "old school smashmouth football" then the Wildcat most certainly is Smashmouth Football' date=' considering it was used in the 60's and 70's by a number of teams and it was used a lot more than what the Dolphins did with it.[/quote']

 

kind of what I was thinking, but most people think of Smashmouth football as being in the I, Wishbone, and sometimes pistol formations but the Dolphins do line up in the I signifigantly and have even lined up in the wishbone a few times this year.

[YanksHater213]

top 5 Players of the year.

1.Chris johnson

2.Drew Brees

3.Peyton Manning

4. Phillip Rivers

5. Mojo Drew

 

Comeback player of the year

1. Benson/Williams/Brady

 

 

Defensive players of the year.

1.Allen

2.Willis

3.Reed

4. Revis

5. Harris

 

Top 5 Rookies of the year

1.Moreno

2.Orakpo

3. Davis

4. Maclin

5. Sanchise

 

Coach of the Year

Caldwell, no question about it

 

MVP: Going by MOST VALUABLE, you have to go with Vince Young, considering the turnaround from when he stepped in. But he didnt play a full year, so I think Manning wins this.

 

Best Player: Chris Johnson, is there any question?

 

Under the radar player of the year: Tony Romo. Everyone has been saying how bad he is but he's quietly putting together a solid year

 

Best player you never heard of: Gary Guyton. Guy is a rock for the Pats at MLB. Plays pretty much every snap, is a rock in coverage, and is one of the quickest LBs in the NFL. He doesn't make the tackles, get the picks or the sacks, but he's a very overlooked player who even Pats fans are quick to dismiss.

 

Best Team: Saints. For all the Colts being undefeated talk, they're still not as dangerous as the Saints can be when they're on.

 

Most overlooked team(s): Pats and Titans. The Pats defense has been much better recently and you can honestly never count belichick, brady, and co out in the playoffs. The Titans have been real impressive since getting Young back. Johnson could be the best back int he NFL, and the defense is in a really nice groove right now.

[LegendX]

Defensive players of the year.

1.Allen

2.Willis

3.Reed

4. Revis

5. Harris

 

 

Under the radar player of the year: Tony Romo. Everyone has been saying how bad he is but he's quietly putting together a solid year.

 

Oh please, Romo has a good regular season every year, he hasn't played under the radar at all.

 

River and Rodgers are by far much better QBs and they get little recognition, they are more "under the radar" if you take into account how much better they are with less recognition than Romo.

 

Do you mean AL HARRIS? Charles woodson is much better than him.

[The_Destroyah]

Oh please, Romo has a good regular season every year, he hasn't played under the radar at all.

 

River and Rodgers are by far much better QBs and they get little recognition, they are more "under the radar" if you take into account how much better they are with less recognition than Romo.

 

Do you mean AL HARRIS? Charles woodson is much better than him.

 

Romo hasn't been under the radar but his performances have for the past 2 years they have talked about Romo's inability to win in december and how he was overated and was not the answer at the QB position in Dallas and yet he's been having a great season and managed to beat one of the best teams in the league in December, Romo recieved nothing but criticism last year and undeservedly so and now he starts to do well and gets little recognition, I do agree that Rivers is better and Rodgers has put up better numbers but I think Rodgers has more weapons at WR than Romo, people are so quick to hate on Romo just because he plays for Dallas.

[YanksHater213]

Everyone wrote Romo and the Dallas offense this year because TO was leaving. But instead he made a star out of Miles Austin and quietly put up a very very solid year when expected to do nothing.

[LegendX]

Miles Austin is having an incredibly overrated season.

[Keeper]

I think DeSean Jackson has to be in the discussion for breakout player of the year, even though he had a really good rookie season.

[The_Destroyah]

Miles Austin is having an incredibly overrated season.

 

how so, he's done a hell of a job, I don't see how he's overrated, if its been overrated its only because almost everything that happens in Dallas is exagerrated good or bad.

[Jasonbay44]

 

Now my real top 3 Qbs:

1. drew brees

2. peyton maning

3. Eli manning

 

 

lol

 

Anyway,

 

MVP: Peyton

Defensive player of year: Darren Sharper.... Woodson in close 2nd.

Offensive ROY: Hakeem Nicks

DROY: Brian Orakpo

Comeback player of the year: Ricky Williams

QB of year: Peyton

RB of year: Chris Johnson

WR of year: Andre Johnson

TE of year: Dallas Clark

Breakout player of year: Ray Rice

Bust of year: Cutler

[Emmz]

I missed that. LOL@Eli Manning.

[Migual Cabrera 2 sox 2009]

Ray rice over miles austin? lol austin is miles ahead of rice.

 

and wow... someone really mentioned eli manning in top 3 qbs

[Jasonbay44]

Ray rice over miles austin? lol austin is miles ahead of rice.

 

and wow... someone really mentioned eli manning in top 3 qbs

 

Is Austin vs Rice a legit argument for most improved? Yes.

 

Is Austin way ahead? Um, no.

 

Id take Rice any day, not only has he ran for over 1000 yards. He averages over 5 YPC and has caught 73 passes out of the backfield and has added another 669 receiving yards.

 

 

Id take

1128 rush yards

5.3 YPC

73 catches

9.2 YPR

669 receiving yards

8 TD's

from a RB

 

Rather then:

65 catches

1138 yards

17.5 YPR

11 TD

from a WR.

 

Why they could be argued as which one has improved the most, how the hell is Austin "miles ahead of Rice".

[Spudboy]

Is Austin vs Rice a legit argument for most improved? Yes.

 

Is Austin way ahead? Um, no.

 

Id take Rice any day, not only has he ran for over 1000 yards. He averages over 5 YPC and has caught 73 passes out of the backfield and has added another 669 receiving yards.

 

 

Id take

1128 rush yards

5.3 YPC

73 catches

9.2 YPR

669 receiving yards

8 TD's

from a RB

 

Rather then:

65 catches

1138 yards

17.5 YPR

11 TD

from a WR.

 

Why they could be argued as which one has improved the must, how the hell is Austin "miles ahead of Rice".

 

I have to admit, I don't follow the other teams (Pats fan here) very closely.

So I don't know much about these two players.

 

But I would take a productive RB with receiving skills any day.

This adds versatility to the offense, and chews time off the clock. Time of possession (along with field position) are the two biggest elements of the game. Running the ball keeps the opposing offense of the field. And rests the defense.

 

This provides a much better chance of winning. Quite simple.

[YanksHater213]

I have to admit, I don't follow the other teams (Pats fan here) very closely.

So I don't know much about these two players.

 

But I would take a productive RB with receiving skills any day.

This adds versatility to the offense, and chews time off the clock. Time of possession (along with field position) are the two biggest elements of the game. Running the ball keeps the opposing offense of the field. And rests the defense.

 

This provides a much better chance of winning. Quite simple.

 

Agree here. Rice is far and away the breakout player of the year. It's not close either.

[Red Foreman]

Is Austin vs Rice a legit argument for most improved? Yes.

 

Is Austin way ahead? Um, no.

 

Id take Rice any day, not only has he ran for over 1000 yards. He averages over 5 YPC and has caught 73 passes out of the backfield and has added another 669 receiving yards.

 

 

Id take

1128 rush yards

5.3 YPC

73 catches

9.2 YPR

669 receiving yards

8 TD's

from a RB

 

Rather then:

65 catches

1138 yards

17.5 YPR

11 TD

from a WR.

 

Why they could be argued as which one has improved the must, how the hell is Austin "miles ahead of Rice".

 

 

The only one I'd argue was your choice of Ricky Williams. I kind of felt last year was a comeback for him. He put up much better numbers this year for sure but an injury increased his totals. I think it was last year that he proved he wasn't dead and buried and made excellent use of his touches.

[Jasonbay44]

The only one I'd argue was your choice of Ricky Williams. I kind of felt last year was a comeback for him. He put up much better numbers this year for sure but an injury increased his totals. I think it was last year that he proved he wasn't dead and buried and made excellent use of his touches.

 

Very good point. Rethinking my decision, you do have a point. He wasn't really coming back from anything, he has just benefited tremendously from extra touches due to Ronnie Brown being hurt. Ricky proved last year he could still be effective if he got the touches and this year is now capitalizing on the opportunity.

[Keeper]

Agree here. Rice is far and away the breakout player of the year. It's not close either.

 

Forgot about Ray Rice. You could also nominate Sidney Rice. I know it's largely due to Favre, but he's still had a helluva season.

[Jasonbay44]

Forgot about Ray Rice. You could also nominate Sidney Rice. I know it's largely due to Favre' date=' but he's still had a helluva season.[/quote']

 

Good call on Rice.

 

I really don't understand why everyone is loving Austin, but not showing Sidney Rice any love.

 

They are almost identical.

Rice has 6 more catches and 4 more yards. While Austin has the advantage in TD's by 6. The TD gap is pretty big, but I don't think Austin is having THAT much better of a season then Rice.

[Emmz]

Sidney Rice is having a fantastic season, and the fact that he's the best of our 3 awesome wideouts is a testament to his ability. As far as it being due to Favre, that's true, but it's also true that Favre is having the season he's having because of all of the weapons he has, the biggest (on the passing end) being Sidney Rice. He's had the best season out of Berrian, himself, and Harvin. To me, that says a lot, because the other two are definitely very talented.