Alex Gonzalez= Great Deal

[Dojji]

Indeed. It says something that even the OBP folks like me admit that a guy with a .300 OBP with the team and a sub .300 OBP seasonlong is our best option right now.

[RWTP24]

Holy hell!

 

We should all know that AGon is someone to fill the hole at SS till we find someone else. Just be happy he is playing really well. Also, he is playing better then anyone we have on the bench.

[Dipre]

Holy hell!

 

We should all know that AGon is someone to fill the hole at SS till we find someone else. Just be happy he is playing really well. Also, he is playing better then anyone we have on the bench.

 

This is exactly the point of the argument.

[Emmz]

Never the less, he has not been the black hole instant out that we were expecting. He's not a negative in the line-up. He's had some timely and even winning hits.

 

And, of course his D does not suck.

 

He may not be a candidate for Sox SS long term, but the Sox could have done (and have) worse.

 

Yup, he's not a black hole, per se, but he isn't exactly lighting it up, which is what some people have attempted to lead others to believe. I was simply getting a few things out there before we thought of Gonzo as an offensive weapon, which he isn't, the OBP is not good at all, even with this being one of his best offensive stretches.

 

I think there are two main points that have been discussed, that is: We need an upgrade for the future, like you say he's not a long-term replacement. Hardy is the tops of the list IMO. And the other point, which is totally off-topic, but has come to surface is: his batting average is, for one, NOT .290 for the season, and even if it was, his OBP sucks, it's horrendous.

 

I'm all in for keeping him there for the remainder of the games, he's by far the best we have right now, but I'd upgrade to Hardy ASAP

[TheKilo]

I disagree...I think a .250 batter is acceptable as long as they are a good defensive player (Like Alex Gonzalez). A pitiful BA is .240. IMO

 

So, you know the difference between a .240 average and a .250 average is one hit in 100 ABs?

[TheKilo]

Not to mention inaccurate ones' date=' he's hitting .234 this season,[b'] look it up, do some research before posting[/b]

 

Honestly?

 

Awesome

[TheKilo]

Also, f*** off with your softball leagues. I joined a kickball league this fall and it's amazing.

[Dipre]

Also' date=' f*** off with your softball leagues. I joined a kickball league this fall and it's amazing.[/quote']

 

I'm not gonna say kickball is ghey 'cause i'd be lying. It's awesome.

 

But fast-pitch is better.

[PWNdroia]

It's .234 for the season. Where is your logic? He's not an offensive threat' date=' an OBP that low is hideous[/quote']

 

With the Red Sox this season he has batted around .290. Small sample size yes, but so far it's true to what's happened.

[Dipre]

With the Red Sox this season he has batted around .290. Small sample size yes' date=' but so far it's true to what's happened.[/quote']

 

Jesus Christ dude.

 

A hitter's main job at the plate is to NOT make an out.

 

Few people in MLB have made more outs over the amount of AB's that constitute Gonzales' career than him.

[Cocos Disciples]

Also' date=' f*** off with your softball leagues. I joined a kickball league this fall and it's amazing.[/quote']

 

My only gripe with kickball is throwing it. It's a really un-natural motion, at least for me.

[Emmz]

With the Red Sox this season he has batted around .290. Small sample size yes' date=' but so far it's true to what's happened.[/quote']

 

For god's sake you said for the year. Not for the Red Sox, don't make the statement if it's not true, okay? I can't stress it enough, you didn't do your research, you didn't look up any stats, not to mention the fact that they're flawed stats in the first place. If you want to say that it's only for the Sox, then do it, don't say that's a year long stat, because in more games and at bats before coming to the Sox, he was hitting .210. That's even bad by Gonzo's standards, which we've established as being poor in the first place. Really, I'm feeling the need to google this for you

[The_Destroyah]

For god's sake you said for the year. Not for the Red Sox' date=' don't make the statement if it's not true, okay? I can't stress it enough, you didn't do your research, you didn't look up any stats, not to mention the fact that they're flawed stats in the first place. If you want to say that it's only for the Sox, then do it, don't say that's a year long stat, because in more games and at bats before coming to the Sox, he was hitting .210. That's even bad by Gonzo's standards, which we've established as being poor in the first place. Really, I'm feeling the need to google this for you[/quote']

 

lets keep calm, no need to get so overly-emotional.

jeez, f***in women and their emotional reactions...

[Christian Snyder]

So' date=' you know the difference between a .240 average and a .250 average is one hit in 100 ABs?[/quote']

Really? Hmmmm.... I guess you're right....:blink:

[Emmz]

Grrrr

[Christian Snyder]

Emmz, Aren't you getting a bit worked up? It's only baseball.

 

 

A-gon has been good for us this year and their is nothing you (or anyone else) can say to disprove that.

[Dipre]

Emmz, Aren't you getting a bit worked up? It's only baseball.

 

 

A-gon has been good for us this year and their is nothing you (or anyone else) can say to disprove that.

 

Lol you're asking for it.

[Emmz]

Emmz, Aren't you getting a bit worked up? It's only baseball.

 

 

A-gon has been good for us this year and their is nothing you (or anyone else) can say to disprove that.

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=On+base+percentage

[Cocos Disciples]

Gonzalez has been good defensively and average to below average offensively. I'll take it, but let's not overstate his worth.

[The_Destroyah]

Emmz, Aren't you getting a bit worked up? It's only baseball.

 

 

A-gon has been good for us this year and their is nothing you (or anyone else) can say to disprove that.

 

lol, look kid I know you are fairly young, but there is one thing I can stress to you right now, and that is to never tell a woman she is wrong, they don't like that, especially when she is actually right and making valid points with plenty of valid evidence...

[Dipre]

lol' date=' look kid I know you are fairly young, but there is one thing I can stress to you right now, and that is to never tell a woman she is wrong, they don't like that, especially when she is actually right and making valid points with plenty of valid evidence...[/quote']

 

This post is golden.

 

Hahahahahha.

[Emmz]

True story, you'll learn in time

[Spudboy]

Hey!

 

Let's get Alex Cora back!

[Christian Snyder]

True story' date=' you'll learn in time[/quote']

What is a good OBP? .330? .340? Or is it higher?

[Dipre]

What is a good OBP? .330? .340? Or is it higher?

 

.330 is about league average.

 

Anything above .350 is good.

[Cocos Disciples]

What is a good OBP? .330? .340? Or is it higher?

Higher.

[Christian Snyder]

.330 is about league average.

 

Anything above .350 is good.

Okay, thank you.

[Emmz]

Anything around .300 or lower is pretty pitiful, and yeah .350 is what is "good" and above obviously better

[SoxSport]

Any time you have a very good defensive SS hitting close to .300, you're doing well. AGon has some pop.

He would be a better hitter if he would lay off bad pitches.

[BoSox21]

This team doesn't NEED Gonzo to be good offensively, they need him to hold his own defensively and he's done that while not being a complete abyss offensively but there really isn't a point in trying to debate his offensive merits cause there are very few. He is what he is.

 

Any time you have a very good defensive SS hitting close to .300' date=' you're doing well.[/quote']

 

That just is so far from true....SO FAR