9/1 vs Rays

[lesterkett]

victor martines doesnt know how to frame a pitch , he moves the glove too much

[Dojji]

He had Bard warming up before Okijima. I think Bard was a better fit' date=' hindsight is nice yes, but I think Bard would have fared better, thus saving Papelbon 2 innings of work.[/quote']

 

I don't think Bard is any less likely to be cosmically bad on a given outing than Okajima. If you're going to change horses in midstream, at least change for a BETTER horse.

[Spudboy]

TLev referred to Oki as "gookajima" I believe' date=' not a very politically correct title nor one acceptable for this forum.[/quote']

 

 

Oh.

 

Thank you M.

[Dipre]

Win for me!

 

Seriously, this one isn't a strawman. I think Francona gets too much crap about his day to day tactics. There's a lot of times that baseball puts you in a no win situation and we use the Hindsight Machine to criticise his moves simply because they don't work.

 

Yes but was this a no-win situation?

 

Do you really leave him on after he walks the lefty, and gives up the RBI single to the right hander, while not missing a single bat in the process?

 

Hmmmm...........

[Cocos Disciples]

Had to be done, I suppose. Racism is not anything we should be prepared to tolerate. Besides, it wasn't even that creative a slur.

 

I mean if you must be a raging bigot, you could at least do us the favor of being an ENTERTAINING racist bigot, couldn't you?

 

Nah I think we're going to stick with the no tolerance of racism.

[Dojji]

PAPELBOMBED!

[WhiskeyBreath]

That's the Papelbon I've been waiting to see. Fantastic

[Dipre]

I don't think Bard is any less likely to be cosmically bad on a given outing than Okajima. If you're going to change horses in midstream' date=' at least change for a BETTER horse.[/quote']

 

lowut?

[BoSox21]

ill give him credit, Paps definitely brought it tonight

[SCM33]

I don't think Bard is any less likely to be cosmically bad on a given outing than Okajima. If you're going to change horses in midstream' date=' at least change for a BETTER horse.[/quote']

 

I didnt change horses. And I already said that I had hindsight working in my favor, that doesnt change my belief that Bard, a power pitcher wasnt a better fit for a very good offense who has a better chance at making contact against Okajima.

[Dojji]

Yes but was this a no-win situation?

 

Do you really leave him on after he walks the lefty, and gives up the RBI single to the right hander, while not missing a single bat in the process?

 

Hmmmm...........

 

Sure. The guy wasn't getting shelled. At least half of Oki's troubles was him being a BABIP victim. One of those Texas Leaeguer bloops carries a little further (or a little less far) and nobody scores. He gets a ground ball he probably gets two.

[The_Destroyah]

ill give him credit' date=' Paps definitely brought it tonight[/quote']

 

its refreshing isnt it?

[SoxSport]

Cmon, Theo, show Paps the money!

[Dipre]

Sure. The guy wasn't getting shelled. At least half of Oki's troubles was him being a BABIP victim. One of those Texas Leaeguer bloops carries a little further (or a little less far) and nobody scores. He gets a ground ball he probably gets two.

 

Yeah that's what happens when you don't miss a single bat in a 20-pitch outing.

 

But oh well, it's hindsight at work.

[Cocos Disciples]

WHY SO MANY WHY SO MANY WHY? WHY SO MANY WHY SO MANY WHY? *Gibberish...*

[Dojji]

I didnt change horses. And I already said that I had hindsight working in my favor' date=' that doesnt change my belief that Bard, a power pitcher wasnt a better fit for a very good offense who has a better chance at making contact against Okajima.[/quote']

 

The guys Oki was originally brought on to face included Pena and Burrell. It was the right decision to have him in there in the first place. So at what point do you pull him?

 

This is just a guess but I'd say that Tito already had in mind to go to Papelbon. I think Bard was up mostly in case Oki gave up an XBH and the alternatives were either a tying or go-ahead hit or Oki needing to come out before Paps was warm.

[Dipre]

WHY SO MANY WHY SO MANY WHY? WHY SO MANY WHY SO MANY WHY? *Gibberish...*

 

StubHub.com?

[Spudboy]

its refreshing isnt it?

 

Yes, and not unexpected.

 

Sox win.

 

Let's savor it.

[Cocos Disciples]

StubHub.com?

 

Noooo the Kayem beef commercial.

[CrespoBlows]

Great performance tonight.

 

Especially from Ellsbury.

[Dipre]

The guys Oki was originally brought on to face included Pena and Burrell. It was the right decision to have him in there in the first place. So at what point do you pull him?

 

This is just a guess but I'd say that Tito already had in mind to go to Papelbon. I think Bard was up mostly in case Oki gave up an XBH and the alternatives were either a tying or go-ahead hit or Oki needing to come out before Paps was warm.

 

Ya think it's a guess?

 

Did you know Tito resists at all costs to throw Papelbon out there for more than an inning?

[Dipre]

Great performance tonight.

 

Especially from Ellsbury.

 

Gotta give the kid some credit for acknowledging Ellsbury tonight. (ESL crowd alert)

[Spudboy]

Great performance tonight.

 

Especially from Ellsbury.

 

:lol::lol:

 

Have a good evening young man.

 

Do well in school.

 

Peace.

[The_Destroyah]

Yes, and not unexpected.

 

Sox win.

 

Let's savor it.

 

Not unexpected but Paps hasnt been quite as effective this year as in the past, but that of course is nit picking since he is still one of the premire closers in baseball and still has a 95% chance of winning any game he comes into with a lead (after he loads the baswes of course :harhar:)

[CrespoBlows]

More mediocrity by Ellsbury.

 

You do know that a good game does not wipe out an entire season worth of a bad performance?

[Dojji]

Did you know Tito resists at all costs to throw Papelbon out there for more than an inning?

 

We already know that's not true. Not "at all costs" anyway. Paps does come in in the 8th from time to time. It's more true that we tried to build our bullpen so he doesn't have to. And usually that works but there are exceptions.

[WhiskeyBreath]

The guys Oki was originally brought on to face included Pena and Burrell. It was the right decision to have him in there in the first place. So at what point do you pull him?

 

This is just a guess but I'd say that Tito already had in mind to go to Papelbon. I think Bard was up mostly in case Oki gave up an XBH and the alternatives were either a tying or go-ahead hit or Oki needing to come out before Paps was warm.

 

I don't think anyone is debating that he should have never been in there in the first place. He was left in too long.

[Spudboy]

Not unexpected but Paps hasnt been quite as effective this year as in the past' date=' but that of course is nit picking since he is still one of the premire closers in baseball and still has a 95% chance of winning any game he comes into with a lead (after he loads the baswes of course :harhar:)[/quote']

 

And, "I feel your pain".

 

Take care swabbie.

 

Get some rest.

[Dipre]

I don't think anyone is debating that he should have never been in there in the first place. He was left in too long.

 

THANK YOU, DUDE, I LOVE YOU IN A NON GAY WAY!!!!!!111!!!!!

[The_Destroyah]

And, "I feel your pain".

 

Take care swabbie.

 

Get some rest.

 

aye-aye cap'n