V-Mart open to extension

[BSN07]

Not if you adjust for inflation.

 

Ok, I didn't consider that angle.

 

 

 

Anyways, can anyone actually remember the last player that had a descending AAV contract?

 

Yje whole idea sounds good in theory, but is it even practiced in MLB? I honestly don't know. What my first instincts are telling me is it doens't happen often. But I could be wrong of course, not actually looking it up and all. More guess work than anything:D

[Paradisecity]

 

 

Anyways, can anyone actually remember the last player that had a descending AAV contract?

 

Yje whole idea sounds good in theory, but is it even practiced in MLB? I honestly don't know. What my first instincts are telling me is it doens't happen often. But I could be wrong of course, not actually looking it up and all. More guess work than anything:D

 

I think one of the main reasons why a team wouldnt want to do it (besides the obvious in inflation and "cross that bridge when we come to it" mentality) would be a lot of players acting similar to 2008 Manny, demanding an extension/ restructuring with multiple years attached or requesting to go somewhere that will oblige.

[BSN07]

I think one of the main reasons why a team wouldnt want to do it (besides the obvious in inflation and "cross that bridge when we come to it" mentality) would be a lot of players acting similar to 2008 Manny' date=' demanding an extension/ restructuring with multiple years attached or requesting to go somewhere that will oblige.[/quote']

 

Yes, I can see that as being a deterrent.

[SoxFan02]

I just don't think it happens guys. I think that both Minnesota and NYY have advantages on us in the Mauer sweepstakes.

 

He was quoted in the latest edition of Sporting News saying his favorite ballpark was Fenway. So that is at least one advantage we have on the Twins and Yankees.

[Dipre]

The Yankees have Montero knocking on the door anyways, and that's an elite bat, also, Red Sox fans need to grow a pair of balls and stop acting like we're underdogs in every FA available, this team has the money, and if they really want Mauer they can get him, just like they could've gotten Tex but didn't want to get into a bidding war.

[a700hitter]

The Yankees have Montero knocking on the door anyways' date=' and that's an elite bat, also, Red Sox fans need to grow a pair of balls and stop acting like we're underdogs in every FA available, this team has the money, and if they really want Mauer they can get him, just like they could've gotten Tex but didn't want to get into a bidding war.[/quote']

I agree 100%. I've been saying this for years. The Sox are big market as are the Yankees. We're not KC. Hell, we had first crack at ARod but they decided not to go above a certain level. They had the $ to sign him, because when they realized that the Yanks were about to get him the Sox FO tried to up the ante. I still believe that they would have signed Tex if they hadn't left his house and gave him what he was asking for. The FO has to stop the endless negotiations in these cases which have given the Yanks the opportunity to step in and eat their lunch. Abreu is another case where they had the deal done, but walked away from the table in a dispute about the amount the Phillies would eat. The Yanks swooped in and closed the deal. These cases are not examples of the Sox not being able to compete financially with the Yanks. They are examples of negotiating miscalculation.

[Keeper]

I want no part of Mauer. Doe one thing' date=' as a catcher with his offensive ability he'll break records. Second between the two of him and VMart, I'd consider Mauer the player I moved to first base. Yes, even with his mad skills at catcher, the guy is simply too bulky to age well behind the plate IMHO. And I'd want a bat like that away from that kind of wear and tear. The first time he hit the DL for a knee related problem would be the beginning of the end.[/quote']

 

Mauer is 26 years old. He's not going to break down any time soon. You move him to 1st in 4 or 5 years.

[BSN07]

It's just going to come down to who Mauer really wants to play for. He will be getting big offers from numerous teams I would imagine.

[Dipre]

Mauer is 26 years old. He's not going to break down any time soon. You move him to 1st in 4 or 5 years.

 

Not only that, but a Mauer/V-Mart 1B/C platoon would be the epitome of awesomeness.

[a700hitter]

Mauer is 26 years old. He's not going to break down any time soon. You move him to 1st in 4 or 5 years.

I'd move him to 1st even sooner. There's no way that I take the risk of injuring a hitter like Mauer.

[italstallianion]

Not only that' date=' but a Mauer/V-Mart 1B/C platoon would be the [b']epitome of awesomeness[/b].

 

 

And badass.

[Dipre]

I'd move him to 1st even sooner. There's no way that I take the risk of injuring a hitter like Mauer.

 

I nearly jizzed my pants thinking about the prospect of having both V-Mart and Mauer as a part of this lineup.

 

Goddamn!

[italstallianion]

I nearly jizzed my pants thinking about the prospect of having both V-Mart and Mauer as a part of this lineup.

 

Goddamn!

 

 

 

Not to put you over the top, but think about

 

C: Victor Martinez

1B: Adrian Gonzalez

DH: Joe Mauer

[Dipre]

Not to put you over the top, but think about

 

C: Victor Martinez

1B: Adrian Gonzalez

DH: Joe Mauer

 

BRB, need to change my underwear.

[RWTP24]

LOL

[TheKilo]

The Yankees have Montero knocking on the door anyways' date=' and that's an elite bat, also, Red Sox fans need to grow a pair of balls and stop acting like we're underdogs in every FA available, this team has the money, and if they really want Mauer they can get him, just like they could've gotten Tex but didn't want to get into a bidding war.[/quote']

 

STOP BRINGING UP MARK TEIXEIRA!

 

STOP IT HE DIDN'T EVER WANT TO COME HEEEEERRRRREEEEEE

[Dipre]

STOP BRINGING UP MARK TEIXEIRA!

 

STOP IT HE DIDN'T EVER WANT TO COME HEEEEERRRRREEEEEE

 

You just saw the chance to type "Mark Teixeira" and ran with it didn't you?

[ORS]

Don't most contracts sustain or go up(back loading) in AAV over the life of the contract?

No. AAV stands for "Average Annual Value". It's the total amount of the contract divided by the duration of the contract (in years). Any given contract's AAV is a single number. The actual annual values are structured to go up typically, but the AAV is what it is.

[jsc1973]

The Yankees have Montero knocking on the door anyways' date=' and that's an elite bat, also, Red Sox fans need to grow a pair of balls and stop acting like we're underdogs in every FA available, this team has the money, and if they really want Mauer they can get him, just like they could've gotten Tex but didn't want to get into a bidding war.[/quote']

 

I don't agree about Tex. He and his wife wanted to join the Yankees. He has a long-standing beef with the Red Sox, although he should take that up with Dan Duquette or get over it already. Boras was using Boston to bid up the price. Yeah, they probably could have changed his mind by giving him $250M over 10 years or something like that, but Tex isn't worth that kind of money. He isn't worth what the Sox offered him.

 

If I had Mauer, I'd move him to first base yesterday. This guy has the potential to be one of the greatest pure hitters of all time. Let him concentrate on that. You don't keep a guy at catcher when he has once-in-a-generation skills that don't involve catching.

[Dipre]

I don't agree about Tex. He and his wife wanted to join the Yankees. He has a long-standing beef with the Red Sox' date=' although he should take that up with Dan Duquette or get over it already. Boras was using Boston to bid up the price. [b']Yeah, they probably could have changed his mind by giving him $250M over 10 years or something like that, but Tex isn't worth that kind of money. [/b]He isn't worth what the Sox offered him.

 

If I had Mauer, I'd move him to first base yesterday. This guy has the potential to be one of the greatest pure hitters of all time. Let him concentrate on that. You don't keep a guy at catcher when he has once-in-a-generation skills that don't involve catching.

 

This is exactly the point.

[example1]

I will be shocked if the Red Sox don't make a franchise-player run at Mauer. They undoubtedly realize that he's one of the best hitters in the game and can afford to have him as a DH if they need to later in the contract, or in order to keep him healthy. He may choose to stay with the Twins, but otherwise I think a town like Boston would embrace him appropriately.

[YAZMAN]

VMart at 10 mil a yr likely wont get it done at least right now. He still has the leverage to consider himself a catcher. If the sox effectively move him off the position for 2010' date=' then his leverage drops as his offensive production is about average for a 1B and then 10 mil a season might be too much.[/quote']

 

He'll wind up being Wake's catcher for the next 5 or so years.

[TheKilo]

You just saw the chance to type "Mark Teixeira" and ran with it didn't you?

 

NO HIS WIFE HATED THE SHOPPING ON NEWBURY STREET SO IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT THEY DID

[Dipre]

NO HIS WIFE HATED THE SHOPPING ON NEWBURY STREET SO IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT THEY DID

 

Mark Teixeira's wife is THE DEVIL!

[BoSox21]

NO HIS WIFE HATED THE SHOPPING ON NEWBURY STREET SO IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT THEY DID

 

If your heart of hearts, do you believe the Yankees would've let themselves be outbid by Boston for Teixeira?

[redsoxrules]

If your heart of hearts' date=' do you believe the Yankees would've let themselves be outbid by Boston for Teixeira?[/quote']

 

with all the spending that they did prior to getting TEX I'm prety sure even they had a limit for tex

 

so yes

[CrespoBlows]

We can only speculate, but the Yankees bid came only after Henry sent that stupid mass email out, about how the bidding was over.

[a700hitter]

I don't agree about Tex. He and his wife wanted to join the Yankees. He has a long-standing beef with the Red Sox, although he should take that up with Dan Duquette or get over it already. Boras was using Boston to bid up the price. Yeah, they probably could have changed his mind by giving him $250M over 10 years or something like that, but Tex isn't worth that kind of money. He isn't worth what the Sox offered him.

 

If I had Mauer, I'd move him to first base yesterday. This guy has the potential to be one of the greatest pure hitters of all time. Let him concentrate on that. You don't keep a guy at catcher when he has once-in-a-generation skills that don't involve catching.

The Red Sox owners had exclusive access to him during their meeting. You are obviously not a sales person. You close the deal. It's why car dealers do everything not to let you walk out of the showroom. If the buyer leaves and says he is going to think about it, the chances of him buying a car from you are slim and none. The same principle was at work here. They asked Tex, what would it take to put you in Fenway today. He told them and they walked away from the table. When he told them what he wanted, they should shook his hand and said "you have a deal." The Yankees never would have entered the picture. They walked away, and they will pay for that decision for years.

[Dipre]

The Red Sox owners had exclusive access to him during their meeting. You are obviously not a sales person. You close the deal. It's why car dealers do everything not to let you walk out of the showroom. If the buyer leaves and says he is going to think about it' date=' the chances of him buying a car from you are slim and none. The same principle was at work here. They asked Tex, what would it take to put you in Fenway today. He told them and they walked away from the table. When he told them what he wanted, they should shook his hand and said "you have a deal." The Yankees never would have entered the picture. [b']They walked away, and they will pay for that decision for years.[/b]

 

Unless they sack the f*** up and extend V-Mart, and get Mauer.

 

Then we won't give a s***.

[a700hitter]

Unless they sack the f*** up and extend V-Mart, and get Mauer.

 

Then we won't give a s***.

True.