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Name says it all. Sign here if you want Matt Holliday.

 

*signs*

 

I'll trade Bay and a prospect or two if needed.

 

No offense but if you want him so badly, please know how his last name is spelled. It's HALLADAY.

 

Seriously people.

 

Additional thought, Drew will not be traded, don't be ridiculous.

 

Major offensive slump for the team, it'll pass.

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No offense but if you want him so badly' date=' please know how his last name is spelled. It's [b']HALLADAY[/b].

 

Seriously people.

 

Additional thought, Drew will not be traded, don't be ridiculous.

 

Major offensive slump for the team, it'll pass.

 

He meant Matt Holliday, not Roy HALLADAY, sweetie.

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No offense but if you want him so badly' date=' please know how his last name is spelled. It's [b']HALLADAY[/b].

 

Seriously people.

 

Additional thought, Drew will not be traded, don't be ridiculous.

 

Major offensive slump for the team, it'll pass.

 

Actually, I was talking about Matt Holliday, the outfielder for the Oakland Athletics.

 

Not Roy Halladay, the starting pitcher for Toronto Blue Jays.

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He meant Matt Holliday' date=' not Roy HALLADAY, sweetie.[/quote']

 

Oh damn! I'm a f***ing retard and totally embarassed :(

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Actually, I was talking about Matt Holliday, the outfielder for the Oakland Athletics.

 

Not Roy Halladay, the starting pitcher for Toronto Blue Jays.

 

Yep, sorry, I'm a dork!

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Oh damn! I'm a f***ing retard and totally embarassed :(

 

You can say every stupid thing you want tonight if you got Kilo to drop his Texeira chant.

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You can say every stupid thing you want tonight if you got Kilo to drop his Texeira chant.

 

Thank you! I'll come up with some good ones after a beer or 12! ;)

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I think Drew is a pretty good hitter, the problem is that he just doesn't PLAY enough. It's great if you can post 900+OPS, but if you can only play 2/3 of the season, it isn't worth as much. I've always said that he has the tools, but he just never puts it all together. He has had one or two "complete" season in 10+ years in the league.

 

Now, do I think we could have done better? Probably not. Is he worth $14 million a year? Probably not. Is it in the past? Yes.

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Why are you so anti-Halladay?

 

Because it's not worth compromising the future of this franchise for what could be a two-month rental.

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I didn't think you were so anti-Halladay.

 

I'm not.

 

I'm just reluctant to sell the farm for him.

 

If we could get him for a reasonable price, i'm all for it, but it's not happening.

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I'm not.

 

I'm just reluctant to sell the farm for him.

 

If we could get him for a reasonable price, i'm all for it, but it's not happening.

 

I agree. I think we can upgrade at a more reasonable price then 4-5 guys for Halladay.

Who knows, but I have a feeling Theo pulls something out of his ass. I will hope and pray.

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J. D. is like Nomar - a talented ballplayer with a putty body that you can't give you a full season. I followed his act in Atlanta and saw it here in L.A. Now, it's our show and we have to deal with it.
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J. D. is like Nomar - a talented ballplayer with a putty body that you can't give you a full season. I followed his act in Atlanta and saw it here in L.A. Now' date=' it's our show and we have to deal with it.[/quote']

 

He hasnt been an injury problem since hes been here really, besides last season. The problem has been that in 2 of the 3 seasons he has been here, he really hasnt provided middle of the order pop, like we had hoped. The OBP is nice, but we didnt sign him to be a leadoff hitter, and even when asked to do that, hes struggled.

 

Hes a nice player, hes got some good pop, he runs good, he fields good, he throws good....he just hasnt hit like we thought he would and its frustrating, because nobody in baseball has a better, smoother looking swing. When hes going right, it almost seems as if the game is too easy for him.......this season, its just not working out the way I hoped.

 

BTW....this is not bashing, its opinion since I do like JD Drew, and think he is one of the most talented players in the game, for whatever reason he has never really put it all together.

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All Drew does is get on base. He can't hit and we can't hit him home' date=' so he's useless in my book. His walks don't even come as easy ads they used to.[/quote']

I speak in your best interest - do not fight this battle.

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pretty difficult to have an .888 career OPS by just taking walks

 

Logic rarely coincides with Drew hatters.

Posted
Well, all I have to say is that I have seen no reason to like JD Drew. Since he's been a Red Sox, the only successful hit I have remember him make is the grand slam in 07 ALCS... that's it...
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Well' date=' all I have to say is that I have seen no reason to like JD Drew. Since he's been a Red Sox, the only successful hit I have remember him make is the grand slam in 07 ALCS... that's it...[/quote']

 

game 5 last year... how about how he kept the Red Sox in the race last June?

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game 5 last year... how about how he kept the Red Sox in the race last June?

 

I don't remember it, but he has had some good things. I'm overreacting a bit... however Holliday would be much greater than Drew (IMO).

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game 5 last year... how about how he kept the Red Sox in the race last June?

 

He has been less productive with the Sox than what we thought he would give us.

Bos: 331 games .264 BA .381 OBP .459 SLG .841 OPS.

 

Now, I can live with those numbers, but couple that with the fact that he misses so much time (140 games in 06 was great, but he had only 11HR, 64 RBI. W/ RISP: .237, .388, .396, .784 That's not getting it done). Last season he had a great year, BUT again, he missed 1/3 of the season. Then this season he is in a horrible slump.

 

I'll live with him and he is usually productive, but his time in Boston hasn't exactly been stellar. I'll take it, but I don't love it.

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He has been less productive with the Sox than what we thought he would give us.

Bos: 331 games .264 BA .381 OBP .459 SLG .841 OPS.

 

Now, I can live with those numbers, but couple that with the fact that he misses so much time (140 games in 06 was great, but he had only 11HR, 64 RBI. W/ RISP: .237, .388, .396, .784 That's not getting it done). Last season he had a great year, BUT again, he missed 1/3 of the season. Then this season he is in a horrible slump.

 

I'll live with him and he is usually productive, but his time in Boston hasn't exactly been stellar. I'll take it, but I don't love it.

 

I've been reluctant to say anything negative about Drew since my first couple of days as a member of Talksox. Given the adoration he enjoys here. But I agree with you TW101.

 

He has, overall, under performed with regard to expectations. He is a skilled baseball player, no doubt. But at $14mil/year, he should be expected to be on the field more and contribute more significantly. I've been chastised for saying he is overpaid "what do you care, it's not your money", etc.. Granted the FO made the mistake of over paying. It's not Drew's fault that they gave him a contract not proportional to his productivity. He needs to do more with greater regularity. That's as nicely as I can say it.

 

With that said, he is not the problem on the Sox. He is slumping horribly. At the same time, all the rest of the team is sucking pond water offensively (except Youk and Pedroia).

 

He is a professional hitter with one of the sweetest swings that I see on a regular basis. I fully expect that he will recover from his slump. It's just unfortunate that he is tanking when the whole team can't produce. I don't see the Sox moving him and not just because his contract is so big that no one will want him. He'll play-out his contract and be gone.

 

Incidentally, it should be noted that his Son had a very serious medical issue (I believe) that coincided with some horrible numbers. As a parent, I can empathize. That's tough to deal with.

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He has' date=' overall, under performed with regard to expectations. [/quote']

 

Weoo, kinda but not really. He was supposed to be a high OBP RF with good defense and decent power, and that's exactly what he's been. You want more HR's of course, but JD Drew has provided reasoanble return on the investment, although it's hard to see that now because of the slump he's in.

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Weoo' date=' kinda but not really. He was supposed to be a high OBP RF with good defense and decent power, and that's exactly what he's been. You want more HR's of course, but JD Drew has provided reasoanble return on the investment, although it's hard to see that now because of the slump he's in.[/quote']

 

I did not mention power. My point is that he has been a disappointment with respect to the investment. Set aside all emotions and think in terms of cost effectiveness. I like the guy, as I've said several times. He just ain't worth what he is paid. I do not view his performance as reasonable.

 

I wonder what Youk and Pedroia think of Drew's contract.

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Especially since they weren't free agents when they signed theirs.

 

And it was a totally different market.

 

How much does Juan Pierre make again?

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