7/18 @ Toronto

[a700hitter]

Penny has a WHIP above 1.50

 

all of those QS he has are misleading

he's always pitching in jams

I'd like to trade him and bring up Buchholz

I'd rather trade Buchholz for Halladay and then trade Penny.

[msubulldogs21]

Anyone else find it ironic there are MLB.tv ads during the commercials of this bootleg site?

[redsoxrules]

I'd rather trade Buchholz for Halladay and then trade Penny.

 

Me too but it seems unlikely

[Spudboy]

Anyone else find it ironic there are MLB.tv ads during the commercials of this bootleg site?

 

Yes.

[Dutchy]

Penny has a WHIP above 1.50

 

all of those QS he has are misleading

he's always pitching in jams

I'd like to trade him and bring up Buchholz

 

He has been much better since April. He had a 4.17 ERA (1.42 WHIP) in May, a 3.18 ERA (1.34 WHIP) in June and a 4.09 ERA (1.27 WHIP) in July before this start. Plus his BABIP is .331, so he's been a bit unlucky.

 

But I still wouldn't mind seeing Buchholz get a chance. We've got plenty of pitching depth beyond him in Bowden, Masterson and Matsuzaka. Maybe we could get a decent bench player for Penny, a lot of teams need pitching.

[Dutchy]

Anyone else find it ironic there are MLB.tv ads during the commercials of this bootleg site?

 

It's video of an MLB.tv feed.

[VA Sox Fan]

Come on Papi, tie this thing up!!!!

[Dutchy]

We've done so badly against lefties lately. It probably has a lot to do with Bay not doing anything with the bat.

[Looch Ness Monster]

I'm pretty convinced at this point that Penny is going to be the odd man out. One start doesn't mean everything but it isn't as if this is his only sub-par start. I think Buchholz deserves a chance to provide a spark to the team and be the full-time starter. What more could he have done? Dominate the minor leagues, then give us a good start where he only allows 1 ER in 5.2 innings. What do you want, a no hitter? He's better than Brad Penny and all you have to do is watch them to know that.

 

On another more positive note, aside from Penny's struggles..isn't it really amazing how every year Pedroia finds a way to improve? Look at his on base percentage, it's actually higher this year despite a batting average 21 points lower.

 

His OBP this year is .380 as of this moment after his last walk, compared to .376 last year. I know it's minimal but his walks total is more impressive to me. He had 50 walks all of last season and he already has 42 this season in 72 less games played.

[pedroia_the_destroyah53]

It's video of an MLB.tv feed.

 

I can't get that video to work for anything the player opens and i got audio the other day.

[msubulldogs21]

Crap. We needed to get a few back there.

[Dutchy]

I'm pretty convinced at this point that Penny is going to be the odd man out. One start doesn't mean everything but it isn't as if this is his only sub-par start. I think Buchholz deserves a chance to provide a spark to the team and be the full-time starter. What more could he have done? Dominate the minor leagues, then give us a good start where he only allows 1 ER in 5.2 innings. What do you want, a no hitter? He's better than Brad Penny and all you have to do is watch them to know that.

 

On another more positive note, aside from Penny's struggles..isn't it really amazing how every year Pedroia finds a way to improve? Look at his on base percentage, it's actually higher this year despite a batting average 21 points lower.

 

His OBP this year is .380 as of this moment after his last walk, compared to .376 last year. I know it's minimal but his walks total is more impressive to me. He had 50 walks all of last season and he already has 42 this season in 72 less games played.

 

Yeah, I said last night that Penny's done just fine but Buchholz isn't getting anything out of pitching in AAA anymore. At this point we're stalling his development by keeping him there.

[VA Sox Fan]

DAMMMMMIT!!!!!

[Dutchy]

I can't get that video to work for anything the player opens and i got audio the other day.

 

Sorry, I don't know what to tell you, I've never had a problem with it. I'm using Firefox, maybe that's the only browser it works on. I'd check to make sure all your plugins and whatever browser you're using are updated.

[Looch Ness Monster]

Goodbye, Penny. Bring Clay back up. Jason Donald baby!

[a700hitter]

Penny is going nowhere unless Halladay is acquired. Masterson, Bowden and Dice K are not reliable depth for a pennant drive. Masterson is getting lit up lately in his Middle Inning Relief role. Dice K's health is a huge question mark, and Bowden has barely had a cup of coffee at the major leagues.

[Dutchy]

I saw that one coming... I hope someone's warming in the pen.

[Jasonbay44]

I would love it if we could keep Buchholz in rotation and get rid of Penny.

[a700hitter]

The site is working fine for me.

[pedroia_the_destroyah53]

alrighty go penny

[Looch Ness Monster]

Penny is going nowhere unless Halladay is acquired. Masterson' date=' Bowden and Dice K are not reliable depth for a pennant drive.[/b'] Masterson is getting lit up lately in his Middle Inning Relief role. Dice K's health is a huge question mark, and Bowden has barely had a cup of coffee at the major leagues.

 

Look at the depth that a ton of other teams have. We need to stop being so spoiled.

[msubulldogs21]

On another note, the Yankees and Tigers game is really good. 0-0 in the 6th.

[Dutchy]

Penny is going nowhere unless Halladay is acquired. Masterson' date=' Bowden and Dice K are not reliable depth for a pennant drive. Masterson is getting lit up lately in his Middle Inning Relief role. Dice K's health is a huge question mark, and Bowden has barely had a cup of coffee at the major leagues.[/quote']

 

Bowden, Masterson and Daisuke is some of the best rotation insurance that any team has. We're talking 6th, 7th and 8th starters for a team.

[a700hitter]

Look at the depth that a ton of other teams have. We need to stop being so spoiled.

You don't trade a solid starter during a pennant drive.

[VA Sox Fan]

The site is working fine for me.

 

Me too.

 

700, I wouldn't get so jacked up about Halladay.

[a700hitter]

Bowden' date=' Masterson and Daisuke is some of the best rotation insurance that any team has. We're talking 6th, 7th and 8th starters for a team.[/quote']Insurance is meant to be used in the case of injury. You don't trade your starters to use your insurance.

[Looch Ness Monster]

You don't trade a solid starter during a pennant drive.

 

Has Penny really been solid today? I would consider Masterson, Bowden and a focused, healthy Dice-K much more solid than Penny. How is that bad insurance especially when it's Clay Buchholz who would be taking the rotation spot?

 

I think you're overrating Penny and his ERA over 5, and WHIP over 1.50 tremendously.

[a700hitter]

Has Penny really been solid today? I would consider Masterson, Bowden and a focused, healthy Dice-K much more solid than Penny. How is that bad insurance especially when it's Clay Buchholz who would be taking the rotation spot?

 

I think you're overrating Penny and his ERA over 5, and WHIP over 1.50 tremendously.

You don't base a decision on 1 game. Let's not forget that Clay was 2-9 last year and cost us the division title. Dice K is 1-5 with an ERA about 7 1/2.

 

The larger point is what do you think you are going to get for Penny? Your not going to get equal value.

[Looch Ness Monster]

You don't base a decision on 1 game. Let's not forget that Clay was 2-9 last year and cost us the division title. Dice K is 1-5 with an ERA about 7 1/2.

 

The larger point is what do you think you are going to get for Penny? Your not going to get equal value.

 

You're willing to mention Buchholz's 2008 but you completely ignore Penny's 2008. Penny was 6-9 with an ERA of 6.28 in 2008. He's been better this year but last year his ERA was 10.00 in his 4 starts in the 2nd half of the season. Penny's not as reliable of an option as you seem to think.

 

And I don't see us getting much for Penny..a AAA player likely. I just think going into the stretch run a rotation of Beckett-Lester-Wakefield-Smoltz-Buchholz is much more reliable than Beckett-Lester-Wakefield-Penny-Smoltz with Masterson, Bowden and Matsuzaka ready to go if an injury happens. Not one other team has that depth, yet you're complaining about it.

[msubulldogs21]

Not looking so promising today