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Jason Bay, RBI machine

 

Posted by Adam Kilgore, Globe Staff June 24, 2009 02:15 PM

 

Jason Bay has come to bat with runners in scoring position 73 times this season, and he appreciates what batting in the Red Sox lineup allows. “The only way to drive guys is having guys on base,” he said. “You’re basically at the mercy of your teammates there. And then it’s your job to drive them in.”

 

And Bay has been doing his job well about as well as any player in the major leagues. He’s had the chances. And he has capitalized. After his three-RBI night against the Washington Nationals last night, Bay has 69 RBIs, best in the American League and second only to Albert Pujols in the majors. Bay is batting .356 and slugging .712 with runners in scoring position.

 

Bay drives in runs when it counts – he’s got 14 go-ahead RBIs and nine-game winning RBIs, second and first in the AL.

 

Bay drives in runs frequently – he’s got one RBI per every 1.55 at-bats, which is second in the AL, only behind Joe Mauer.

 

Bay drives in runs without hits – Bay has three sacrifice flies, second on the Sox behind David Ortiz.

 

Bay has morphed into one of the league’s best run producers while maintaining his low-maintenance approach. He is consistently the last person manager Terry Francona worries about. “Wind him up and let him go,” Francona said.

 

“He always seems to come up with the big hit,” centerfielder Jacoby Ellsbury said.

 

Bay has cooled a bit this month. In April, Bay had a .490 on-base percentage. In May, he hit 10 home runs. He’s been solid in June – he’s batting .280 – but not as spectacular as in the season’s first two months. That was to be expected, but it has not hindered Bay from driving in runs.

 

“I’m not doing anything different,” Bay said. “I got off to a good start. My June probably hasn’t been as good as April and May were. But I’ve maintained the whole time I wasn’t going to hit .350 and hit 80 home runs. It was one of those things were if the hits weren’t coming, if I could get still get them in with a sacrifice fly or an RBI groundout, contribute that way.

 

“What I get paid to do is drive in runs, and that’s what I take pride in.”

 

Love him

 

Sign him, please.

 

Thank You!

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I'll never understand the huge contracts...and not just for baseball. Probably because I can't fathom how people can feel they need that much money. Give me 8-12 million and I'd be fine for life, how many yachts/mansions/porches does one need. Get a grip, c'mon. :)

 

That said...yes, we need to sign Bay. I can't imagine that they wouldn't...the changing economy and wanting to wait to see how that pans out is still valid, if annoying. Doesn't bother me too much yet...Bay gets more time to show he's not a one-month wonder etc. and Boston gets more time to evaluate whether they think they "need" him, specifically, enough to warrant the giant contract he'll surely command.

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I think it's less about need and more about players comparing themselves to their peers. Jason Bay says, "If Gary Matthews Jr. gets X amount of money, why should I get anything less than 2X?" Or something like that.
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I think it's less about need and more about players comparing themselves to their peers. Jason Bay says' date=' "If Gary Matthews Jr. gets X amount of money, why should I get anything less than 2X?" Or something like that.[/quote']

 

This......pro athletes aren't only competitive on the field/court/ice

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Jason Bay' date=' RBI machine[/b']

 

Posted by Adam Kilgore, Globe Staff June 24, 2009 02:15 PM

 

Jason Bay has come to bat with runners in scoring position 73 times this season, and he appreciates what batting in the Red Sox lineup allows. “The only way to drive guys is having guys on base,” he said. “You’re basically at the mercy of your teammates there. And then it’s your job to drive them in.”

 

And Bay has been doing his job well about as well as any player in the major leagues. He’s had the chances. And he has capitalized. After his three-RBI night against the Washington Nationals last night, Bay has 69 RBIs, best in the American League and second only to Albert Pujols in the majors. Bay is batting .356 and slugging .712 with runners in scoring position.

 

Bay drives in runs when it counts – he’s got 14 go-ahead RBIs and nine-game winning RBIs, second and first in the AL.

 

Bay drives in runs frequently – he’s got one RBI per every 1.55 at-bats, which is second in the AL, only behind Joe Mauer.

 

Bay drives in runs without hits – Bay has three sacrifice flies, second on the Sox behind David Ortiz.

 

Bay has morphed into one of the league’s best run producers while maintaining his low-maintenance approach. He is consistently the last person manager Terry Francona worries about. “Wind him up and let him go,” Francona said.

 

“He always seems to come up with the big hit,” centerfielder Jacoby Ellsbury said.

 

Bay has cooled a bit this month. In April, Bay had a .490 on-base percentage. In May, he hit 10 home runs. He’s been solid in June – he’s batting .280 – but not as spectacular as in the season’s first two months. That was to be expected, but it has not hindered Bay from driving in runs.

 

“I’m not doing anything different,” Bay said. “I got off to a good start. My June probably hasn’t been as good as April and May were. But I’ve maintained the whole time I wasn’t going to hit .350 and hit 80 home runs. It was one of those things were if the hits weren’t coming, if I could get still get them in with a sacrifice fly or an RBI groundout, contribute that way.

 

“What I get paid to do is drive in runs, and that’s what I take pride in.”

 

Love him

 

Sign him, please.

 

Thank You!

 

Plus he's Canadian! :thumbsup:

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The problem is, if we aren't going to spend the Big Bucks on the Big RBI machines, who the hell are we going to spend money on? The giant contract worked with Manny, give Bay his money!
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This......pro athletes aren't only competitive on the field/court/ice

There is that point, and it's valid.

But there's always one guy (or a few) who starts the ball really rolling fast, then everyone has to get in on it. Like I remember how Jim Carrey was the 20million dollar actor one year and suddenly EVERYONE had to have at least that or more. Now movies are so expensive partly because of outrageous salary demands from actors.

 

Same thing in sports...

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There is that point, and it's valid.

But there's always one guy (or a few) who starts the ball really rolling fast, then everyone has to get in on it. Like I remember how Jim Carrey was the 20million dollar actor one year and suddenly EVERYONE had to have at least that or more. Now movies are so expensive partly because of outrageous salary demands from actors.

 

Same thing in sports...

 

No.

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actors need to prove they can bring in enough box office to warrant their salaries though from movie to movie

 

Yeah, that's why Tom Cruise got $100,000,000 to act in the War of the Worlds.

 

Movie tickets are getting more expensive, because of inflation, and our morbid fascination with celebrities. People don't seem to mind the $8 price tag.

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No.

I hate one word answers since it's not always easy to tell what you're saying no to...that said, I still say yes, but it's based on the idea that I actually know how Free Agency etc. works in baseball now. I may have it wrong, so feel free to correct me if that's so, and perhaps I'll change my mind then.

 

My understanding is once you're a FA, the player/agent is looking for the highest(or best terms) bidder via being given offers and accepting/rejecting those offers. Boston wants Bay, they offer him a price, he says "I want more" and eventually others can bid, right? So then Yankees offer more, and if Boston can top it, Bay gets to pick which one?

 

Salaries at that point are determined by what teams will pay. Any time you have such an arrangement, player greed plays a major role in rising salaries, as well as, obviously, the team/cooperate ability to afford the greed. When the economy is decent, they rise and rise as (at least some) teams can afford to bid high to snag who they want.

 

If that's the case, then if a bid Bay accepts/courts is a new high price, it increases the average player salary of his caliber and thus the next player desires bids closer to "what Bay got" and so on. By Bay deciding that, say, 80 million sounds better than 60 million, he starts or continues the chain reaction, which doesn't cease unless the economy goes in the shitter for a long period of time. Thus, it is/can be one or several players each year that get higher offers that lead to even higher average salaries the next year.

 

Since Free Agency/arbitration 30-40 years ago(?), average salaries have skyrocketed by what...5 or 6 thousand percent?...it's not entirely because of the player stuff, of course...but it is a large part.

 

 

Movie tickets are getting more expensive' date=' because of inflation, and our morbid fascination with celebrities. People don't seem to mind the $8 price tag.[/quote']

There are many things that go into movie ticket prices...salaries are a part, which is why I said "partly." Advertising, marketing and distribution of the film tends to be the largest portion, production next, then actors.

 

It's true that if you break down the cost of a $9 ticket, that only about 50 cents to 1 buck is what could be seen as going to the actors. Doesn't sound like much, but it is 6-10% of the price of the ticket, and nearly 12-20% of the portion of the ticket price that the studio receives (vs. the portion that the theater receives).

 

actors need to prove they can bring in enough box office to warrant their salaries though from movie to movie

True, but the fact remains that once a standard for an "A" caliber actor is set/rises, it tends to remain high...so whoever is the 'next big thing' gets the huge/ever rising salary while the no-longer A-list salaries drop. It doesn't matter who the actor is...the ones the studios want will command the high price tag, the price for A-list actors never really decreases. I'm not, btw, saying the system has to change, since I'm not sure there's any better way. But it is...stupid. imo.

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Yeah' date=' that's why Tom Cruise got $100,000,000 to act in the [i']War of the Worlds[/i].

 

Movie tickets are getting more expensive, because of inflation, and our morbid fascination with celebrities. People don't seem to mind the $8 price tag.

 

That's a matinée ticket around here, I think a regular adult ticket is $11 now.

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http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/red-sox/rob-bradford/2009/06/24/red-sox-outfielder-bay-become-united-states-citizen

 

WASHINGTON -- Jason Bay is making his last visit to the nation's capital as an outsider looking in.

 

On Thursday, July 2, the Red Sox outfielder will officially become a United States citizen.

 

"I figure I might as well since this is where I'll be working for probably the rest of my career," said Bay prior to the Red Sox' 6-4 win over the Nationals, Wednesday night, at Nationals Park. "It's just a natural progression."

 

The 30-year-old Bay was born and grew up in the Canadian city of Trail, British Columbia but has been going to school and working in the United States since attending North Idaho Community College in 1997.

 

Bay's journey toward becoming an American citizen picked up steam last when he found himself spending almost the entirety of the Red Sox' 2-hour, 26-minute rain delay against the Florida Marlins, last Thursday, studying for his citizenship exam.

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The irony is, if the Jays have a good year they might be interested in taking on a middle of the order bat, especially if Travis Snider continues to struggle.
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Taking 4 to the movies at night costs about 45- 50 bucks to walk in.

If you decide to get popcorn and soda its another 30 bucks or so, its steep but it is what is.

we used to walk into double feature matinees for 1.50 on a Saturday afternoon and I think kids under 12can catch a matinee now for 5.50 maybe?? I do know its infinitely cheaper than going to a game.

Taking 4 to fenway is a 1000 maybe 12-1500 its all depending on where you're sitting and who they play and of course the weather situation but even the cold rain rarely empties fenway early.

Its rather outrageous and eventually all things come down to earth but if you're looking for relief in Boston from these prices it aint happening soon. the way this team is set up with young arms I see them being competetive for 5-8 years from now and as long as its fashionable for the pink hat wearing douchebags and neil diamond fans Im afraid its all over between many of us and Fenway.

Last time I sat in the expensive seats behind homeplate I was frightened to yell too loud lest I offend the stock broker going to town on his Blackberry and the 2 dykes wearing matching combat pants and tshirts that read MEN SUCK JETER SWALLOWS ....

The atmosphere has changed dramatically under these owners and nothing was worse than the day they got eliminated against chicago in 05, they were down a couple of runs and in between innings Journeys Dont Stop Believin is being played.....and the 2 men in front of me who had their sweaters over their shoulders and their pinkies linked together started doing the Bump while singing as if they were auditioning for American Idol...

I could read the writin on the wall that afternoon.

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If we lose Bay we got some problems, i dont even want to think that far ahead.

The more I see JBay the more I want him here forever, the man is quiet, humble and can hit a ton.

We will overpay for this guy or he will walk to NY.

Anyway

Heres where the real action is, Nathans Hot Dog Eating Contest.

Joey Chestnut dethroned the mighty Kobayashi last year but the Japanese guy had an undisclosed injury.

Chestnut comes back as the favorite but Im leaning East and think Kobayashi comes back.

 

NATHAN'S HOT DOG EATING CONTEST - Jul 04

Jul 04 - 9:00 AM NATHANS HOT DOG EATING CONTEST - ODDS TO WIN

3951 ** BOTH CHESTNUT AND KOBAYASHI

3952 MUST COMPETE FOR ACTION **

3953 .

3954 JOEY CHESTNUT -150

3955 ..

3956 TAKERU KOBAYASHI +120

3957 ...

3958 FIELD (ANY OTHER CONTESTANT) +1000

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True, but the fact remains that once a standard for an "A" caliber actor is set/rises, it tends to remain high...so whoever is the 'next big thing' gets the huge/ever rising salary while the no-longer A-list salaries drop. It doesn't matter who the actor is...the ones the studios want will command the high price tag, the price for A-list actors never really decreases. I'm not, btw, saying the system has to change, since I'm not sure there's any better way. But it is...stupid. imo.

 

I guarantee Will Ferrell won't make what he made for Land of the Lost for his next movie

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I guarantee Will Ferrell won't make what he made for Land of the Lost for his next movie

I found the movie entertaining. Maybe the expectations where too high. Or it just happend to open at the same time as some other big name movies.

BTW' date=' Jason Bay would look wonderful in pinstripes. A 3-4-5-6 of Tex-Arod-Bay-Swisher would be ridiculous.[/quote']

 

It will need to be to cover for the pitching staff.

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Good morning MJ.

When the Yanks get some pitching theyre going to be tuff to beat, maybe next year they come up with someone scary...Burnett and Sabby are 11-8 or something like that, they still need a legit 1.

salary dont coincide with success. I still believe that Burnett will be their savior down the stretch and i also think the big lefty will fade come late summer due to abuse,wang has been better but hes still carrying a double digit era,joba is competetive but isnt as effective as a starter as he was pitching in the crucial 8th inning..

Petitte is serviceable but the key for them will be Phil Hughes and how well he pitches.

he will be in their rotation down the stretch unless they trade him for someone famous but 3 years past his prime..Is Eric Milton still on their radar?

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