Looking Back at Tex

[Dipre]

We have gained 5 games on the sox since May 8th and anyone watching the games and looking at the stats can see that the yankees are the better team. Granted' date=' injuries could change all that, but right now, the yankees are the better team and a lot of that has to do with the offense being much more consistent. Tex has a LOT to do with that[/quote']

 

No, the pitching has had a lot to do with that, offense has never been in question.

 

I said nothing about a rotation, I said Lowell would have been dealt if the sox FO thought he was disposable.

 

Yea, sure.

 

 

Yep, we have spent a lot of money for no reward over the past decade. But the past is the past my friend, we finally spent on the right parts.

 

You can talk about "well spent" when you finally WIN.

 

i dont think you actually know what the word bias means.

 

Sure, the definition from urban dictionary:

 

"It's the mantra that a douchebag who posts on a Red Sox site called talksox.com lives by".

 

That definition good enough for you?

[Spudboy]

boy' date=' its really f***ing nice to completely ignore the fact that Mike Lowell is outperforming anyone's expectations of him so far[/quote']

 

It's interesting to see how this discussion has evolved. What I don't understand is why the ragging on Lowell. Granted, he is closer to the end of his career than to the beginning. Yes, his mobility and range have been effected by his hip. But he gets out there every night and makes good plays at third and hits pretty well. Has he hit into double plays too often? Probably. Does he draw enough walks? Probably not. Right now he is the best 3rd baseman the Sox have. Probably the best defensive 3rd baseman they have had in a long time.

The Sox will have to find a replacement for him fairly soon. Tex at 1st and Youk at 3rd would have been nice. It did not happen. Time to move on.

[jacksonianmarch]

No, the pitching has had a lot to do with that, offense has never been in question.

 

 

 

Yea, sure.

 

 

 

 

You can talk about "well spent" when you finally WIN.

 

 

 

Sure, the definition from urban dictionary:

 

"It's the mantra that a douchebag who posts on a Red Sox site called talksox.com lives by".

 

That definition good enough for you?

 

so therefore, you fit the definition of bias. Thanks for clarifying

[Dipre]

so therefore' date=' you fit the definition of bias. Thanks for clarifying[/quote']

 

Nope, because you're the only douchebag who posts on this site.

[BoSox21]

We have gained 5 games on the sox since May 8th and anyone watching the games and looking at the stats can see that the yankees are the better team. Granted' date=' injuries could change all that, but right now, the yankees are the better team and a lot of that has to do with the offense being much more consistent. Tex has a LOT to do with that[/quote']

 

And you could say the Sox are only 1 game back despite the rotation pitching like complete ass for the vast majority of the season and our #3 hitter being a big, giant black hole. Spin is fun isn't it?

[jacksonianmarch]

You could spin it any way you like it. I just think that, looking that the teams as currently constructed, I'd take NY. Since the return of ARod, this has been a different team. The pitching has a lot to do with it, but overall, this team has gotten a lot stronger. Tex got better, Matsui got better, etc. And, they dont quit.

[BoSox21]

Well yea, NY looks good right now. And the Sox looked good when they won 12 in a row. The goal is to look good in October and the Yankees haven't done that in half a decade despite eye-popping additions every off-season.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Nope' date=' because you're the only douchebag who posts on this site.[/quote']

diony

[yankees228]

Lol, we're 1 game behind and you're talking like the Yankees just won the ALCS and are about to go to the WS.

 

Again, if the Sox got Tex, Lowell would have been traded, there was going to be no "rotation".

 

Oh, and we all hope they keep spending......and failing like they have for the last 8 years.

 

Carry on with the douchiness and the bias.

 

I would be hard pressed to call a 95-100 win team a failure. The playoffs are a crapshoot. The 162 game season is much more telling of how well constructed a team is. The Yankees saw so many things go right in the playoffs for them to win four championships in five years. Things were bound to even out.

 

The Yankees made the playoffs 13 times (every year) from 1995 through 2007. The won the whole thing 4 times. Considering how much of a crapshoot the playoffs are, I would say 4/13 makes a lot of sense.

[Dipre]

I would be hard pressed to call a 95-100 win team a failure. The playoffs are a crapshoot. The 162 game season is much more telling of how well constructed a team is. The Yankees saw so many things go right in the playoffs for them to win four championships in five years. Things were bound to even out.

 

The Yankees made the playoffs 13 times (every year) from 1995 through 2007. The won the whole thing 4 times. Considering how much of a crapshoot the playoffs are, I would say 4/13 makes a lot of sense.

 

Not when you're spending more than the Marlins, Nationals and Orioles combined.

[Dipre]

diony

 

He's not a douche, he's an idiot.

[VA Sox Fan]

I would be hard pressed to call a 95-100 win team a failure. The playoffs are a crapshoot. The 162 game season is much more telling of how well constructed a team is. The Yankees saw so many things go right in the playoffs for them to win four championships in five years. Things were bound to even out.

 

The Yankees made the playoffs 13 times (every year) from 1995 through 2007. The won the whole thing 4 times. Considering how much of a crapshoot the playoffs are, I would say 4/13 makes a lot of sense.

 

The Yankee view on things is that if they don't win the WS they failed, Jeter has said this several times himself.

 

I don't agree with that, but I'm not a Yankee or a Yankee fan, thank GAWD:lol:

[yankees228]

For the record, I understand not winning the World Series is considering a failure. Obviously that is the goal. My point is that, just because they didn't win the World Series, does not mean the team was poorly constructed.

[yankees228]

Not when you're spending more than the Marlins' date=' Nationals and Orioles combined.[/quote']

 

It doesn't take away all the luck and fortune that is involved in winning three straight short series against quality opponents.

[VA Sox Fan]

For the record' date=' I understand not winning the World Series is considering a failure. Obviously that is the goal. My point is that, just because they didn't win the World Series, does not mean the team was poorly constructed.[/quote']

 

Things improved significantly when George had to step back and let Cashman do his job. He's been able to build for the future.

[BoSox21]

The playoffs are a crapshoot. The 162 game season is much more telling of how well constructed a team is. The Yankees saw so many things go right in the playoffs for them to win four championships in five years. Things were bound to even out.

 

The mindset of the modern day Yankee fan, ladies and gentleman. Wow, who ever would have thought Red Sox fans would have the "WS or bust" mindset and Yankee fans are satisfied being kings of the regular season.

[Dipre]

It doesn't take away all the luck and fortune that is involved in winning three straight short series against quality opponents.

 

Still, that is the yankees MO.

 

No WS, lost season.

 

Or am i wrong?

[yankees228]

Things improved significantly when George had to step back and let Cashman do his job. He's been able to build for the future.

 

But by the definition that DipreG gave, things have not improved, they've gotten worse, due to the fact that the Yankees have not won a World Series since Cashman was given control of the team.

[BoSox21]

Things improved significantly when George had to step back and let Cashman do his job. He's been able to build for the future.

 

yea...ask Cashman now if he'd go back and do the Santana deal

[Dipre]

yea...ask Cashman now if he'd go back and do the Santana deal

 

THANK YOU.

[yankees228]

Still, that is the yankees MO.

 

No WS, lost season.

 

Or am i wrong?

 

Absolutely. But from a third party, unbiased perspective, I think we can both see that things that happen in the postseason cannot possibly be planned for. What happens over the course of the 162 game season, a much larger sample size, can be planned for.

[Dipre]

Absolutely. But from a third party' date=' unbiased perspective, I think we can both see that things that happen in the postseason cannot possibly be planned for. What happens over the course of the 162 game season, a much larger sample size, can be planned for.[/quote']

 

Again.

 

From the Yankeee FO POV, is a season that does not win with a WS a bust, yes or no?

[yankees228]

The mindset of the modern day Yankee fan' date=' ladies and gentleman. Wow, who ever would have thought Red Sox fans would have the "WS or bust" mindset and Yankee fans are satisfied being kings of the regular season.[/quote']

 

I'm disappointed when they not win the World Series. I'm not satisfied with just having a great record in the regular season.

 

However, I understand how much of a crapshoot the playoffs are, and how fortunate you have to be to win the World Series. I wasn't talking about my mindset at all. I was talking about how you cannot, in my opinion, really blame the front office for not having any championships in the past 8 years.

[yankees228]

Again.

 

From the Yankeee FO POV, is a season that does not win with a WS a bust, yes or no?

 

That's the company line, but if you ask someone like Brian Cashman (who relies on a statistical analysis approach) off the record, I'm guessing he would repeat many of the same things that I'm saying.

[Keeper]

I was talking about how you cannot' date=' in my opinion, really blame the front office for not having any championships in the past 8 years.[/quote']

 

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[BoSox21]

They gave more than a quarter of a billion dollars to a guy who chokes on a dick every October and they don't have a proven playoff horse in their rotation. The playoffs being a crapshoot is pure horseshit, pitching wins in the playoffs. Start blaming the FO.

[CrespoBlows]

The mindset of the modern day Yankee fan' date=' ladies and gentleman. Wow, who ever would have thought Red Sox fans would have the "WS or bust" mindset and Yankee fans are satisfied being kings of the regular season.[/quote']

 

The playoffs are a crapshoot. What exactly did he say wrong? A mediocre team can get lucky three times in a five game series against a better one.

[Dipre]

The playoffs are a crapshoot. What exactly did he say wrong? A mediocre team can get lucky three times in a five game series against a better one.

 

That you can't blame FO for the Yankees not winning a WS the last 8 years.

 

The playoffs are a crapshoot, and continued success in them is not sustainable.

 

However, spending the amount of money they spend you'd think they get one in 7 tries.

[yankees228]

They gave more than a quarter of a billion dollars to a guy who chokes on a dick every October and they don't have a proven playoff horse in their rotation. The playoffs being a crapshoot is pure horseshit' date=' pitching wins in the playoffs. Start blaming the FO.[/quote']

 

Oh boy, this again. Please take a look at A-Rod's postseason numbers.

 

On top of that, the playoffs are such a small sample size that you cannot make that kind of judgment on a player like A-Rod.

 

As for the pitching, how come the A's never got out of the first round with the big three? Why didn't the Yankees win the World Series when they had Clemens, Mussina, Pettitte, and Wells? In 2002, the had much better pitching than the Angels. It wasn't even close. But weird things happen in a best out of five series.

[yankees228]

The playoffs are a crapshoot. What exactly did he say wrong? A mediocre team can get lucky three times in a five game series against a better one.

 

It's incredible, but people still don't seem to get this.