Pedro Martinez....still a FA, could he return?

[SCM33]

Not suggesting anything that he would, or we would.....but he was hitting 91 on the gun the other day.

 

I would love to see him back, but unless they view Wake or Penny as injured to the point where they could not contribute, it probably wouldn't happen. (Unless hell froze over)

 

I would love for him to come back, the fanboy in me would love to see it......but I would be crushed if he were more of his 2008 form, than 2004 form.

 

My guess is he ends up in the NL West, maybe LA to reunite with Manny, and Im sure Torre would welcome his veteran leadership.

 

He left on bad terms in his eyes with his relationship with Theo and management, but he is a very emotional guy, and the day he returned with the Mets showed us that he still appreciates how much he meant to Boston fans.

 

If Wake and Penny cannot come around, could he be an option? (Dont respond with attacks towards myself, just trying to start a new topic with good conversation)

[WhiskeyBreath]

I think I remember hearing McAdam said that Pedro's agent contacted the Sox and was told that they had no interest because there wasn't room for him. I've always been a huge Pedro fan and would love to see him back in town but it's not going to happen. I hope he signs with a team in the NL and has a great year.

[SCM33]

I think I remember hearing McAdam said that Pedro's agent contacted the Sox and was told that they had no interest because there wasn't room for him. I've always been a huge Pedro fan and would love to see him back in town but it's not going to happen. I hope he signs with a team in the NL and has a great year.

 

Was that before or after the news of Wakefield's labrum and Penny's setback?

[BoSox21]

What's changed about Wakefield? He's pitched with a torn labrum for two years

[TheKilo]

Penny's also throwing in a simulated game before the end of the week, isn't he?

[a700hitter]

I couldn't stand watching a healthy Wakefield. I wish they would cut him. Penny sounds like this years version of Wade Miller. Pedro could be worth exploring, but not for a $5 million guarantee like Penny and Smoltz got, although Pedro is ready to pitch in the majors right now and Smoltz and Pnny are not ready to pitch.

[BoSox21]

I couldn't stand watching a healthy Wakefield. I wish they would cut him.

 

He's still worth the 4 mil for what he brings to the team

[a700hitter]

He's still worth the 4 mil for what he brings to the team

Can you honestly tell me that you are not biting your nails immediately after the National Anthem when Wakefield is pitching?

[Dojji]

I can't, but then I do that whenever anyone is pitching.

[BoSox21]

Can you honestly tell me that you are not biting your nails immediately after the National Anthem when Wakefield is pitching?

 

I'm scared shitless that there's gonna be an airshow everytime Wake pitches but it's not about how comfortable I am watching a game, it's about his results.

[a700hitter]

I can't' date=' but then I do that whenever anyone is pitching.[/quote']And you accuse me of being pessimistic?

[a700hitter]

I'm scared shitless that there's gonna be an airshow everytime Wake pitches but it's not about how comfortable I am watching a game' date=' it's about his results.[/quote']My doctor says that I have to get my blood pressure under control. Wakefield's starts are life threatening.

[BSN07]

My doctor says that I have to get my blood pressure under control. Wakefield's starts are life threatening.

 

:lol:

 

I mentioned giving Pedro a shot after seeing him Pitch for the DR in the 1st game of the WBC. If Wake and Penny crap out, I wouldn't mind it. I said there would be something to seeing #45 on the mound at Fenway again.

[TheKilo]

:lol:

 

I mentioned giving Pedro a shot after seeing him Pitch for the DR in the 1st game of the WBC. If Wake and Penny crap out, I wouldn't mind it. I said there would be something to seeing #45 on the mound at Fenway again.

 

You sure it wasn't the article that mentioned Pedro's agent contacted the Sox a full week before the start of he WBC?

[Dojji]

And you accuse me of being pessimistic?

 

Nah, I just spend the time to reseach the other team so I know how good they are too.

 

Anywho, I think there are other baseball teams that would give Pedro a better chance to play in the majors next year. I would think the Blue Jays would be extremely interested for example, if nothing else they could use a veteran stopgap until MacGowan comes back. And if I was his agent I'd be talking to teams in both Central divisions, especially the White Sox, Cubs and Brewers, to try to sell my man.

[BoSox21]

I heard somewhere today that Ned Coletti has interest in Petey

 

Red Sox West indeed...

[WhiskeyBreath]

I couldn't stand watching a healthy Wakefield. I wish they would cut him.

 

You're out of your mind. He out performs his team friendly salary every single year. He's a steal at $4 mill.

[BSN07]

You sure it wasn't the article that mentioned Pedro's agent contacted the Sox a full week before the start of he WBC?

 

It's not a move, but it's a minor note.

 

Quote:

Red Sox Not Interested In Pedro

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [February 28 at 9:30am CST]

 

According to Sean McAdam of the Boston Herald, the Red Sox are not interested in bringing Pedro Martinez back to Boston. McAdam's sources say Pedro's representatives approached the Red Sox this week to determine interest and heard from the Red Sox that they don't have room for Pedro.

 

Pedro, who won two Cy Youngs and a World Series in Boston, will pitch in the WBC for the Dominican Republic and hopes to attract interest with a good showing

 

Thought it was interesting Pedro had any desire to return to Boston. But he probably pitch anywhere about now. If they didn't already have Penny and Smoltz, I'd say give him a shot. It relatively low risk depth move. But with what the team has now, I can't blame them for Passing.

 

Question is though, what if he looks really good in the WBC?

 

 

My original post on the topic....

 

 

Pretty sure I gave the story credit when I first posted about this subject in the Red Sox minor moves thread. Sorry if I didn't feel the need to mention it again.

 

 

 

I was a little skeptical when the story broke. But after seeing him pitch, I thought it might actually work if there was room for him.

 

 

 

 

Best guess is he reunites with Manny in LA.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Right now, I wouldn't sign him. If we get to mid-May or later and its clear that Penny is doing well and will have to be shut down, I don't see why you don't give Pedro a shot.

[THE ARS]

I think Pedro could still be a force out of the pen, but as a starter his career is over.

 

If I needed a closer I would talk to him. Kerry Wood got a nice deal and he isn't half the man.

 

 

 

 

Tom

[a700hitter]

You're out of your mind. He out performs his team friendly salary every single year. He's a steal at $4 mill.

That's not saying a lot. He still causes too much heart burn, and starting him in a big game is like forfeiting the game.

[BoSox21]

That's not saying a lot. He still causes too much heart burn' date=' and starting him in a big game is like forfeiting the game.[/quote']

 

It's up to the FO to make sure Wakefield isn't the only option to start a big game. Tampa made sure Edwin Jackson wasn't anywhere near the mound in the playoffs

[example1]

You can plant me firmly in the camp of Wakefield has outlived his big-game starter ability. I'm sure at some point this year he'll go 8-0 with a 2.14 ERA, but I also suspect he will follow that up with an 8 run performance, a 2 IP 6 R performance, and then be injured for a week or two.

 

He's a good value, and I have no problem with him on this team until he shows he's not worth the money over a long season, but I hate watching him pitch.

[a700hitter]

It's up to the FO to make sure Wakefield isn't the only option to start a big game. Tampa made sure Edwin Jackson wasn't anywhere near the mound in the playoffs

But they keep starting him in big games. That's the problem. If he was gone, management would not be able to continue making that mistake. I'd like to see him gone. I think that all the talk about the excess of pitching for this team is mistaken. After the solid top three, there is Wakefield, Penny, Bucholz, Smoltz, and Masterson. Out of those 5 guys, it would not surprise me if Francona cannot find two dependable starters to take the ball every 5 days. Wakefield has a torn labrum and his durability is waning. Bucholz stunk up the place last season. There is no guarantee that he can be effective this season. Penny looks like an injured bust. Smoltz is 41 with a surgically repaired arm. Masterson is just a pup. I don't think the rotation is deep at all. Heaven forbid that one of the top 3 goes down for any length of time. I'd like them to dump an increasingly unreliable Wakefield and acquire a more dependable arm.

[kevchen19]

I kinda want him to return but theo doesnt.

[BSN07]

I kinda want him to return but theo doesnt.

 

There is no spot for him. Only the Yankees bring in guys that play a position they already have filled. Try and keep up.;)

[jacksonianmarch]

But they keep starting him in big games. That's the problem. If he was gone' date=' management would not be able to continue making that mistake. I'd like to see him gone. I think that all the talk about the excess of pitching for this team is mistaken. After the solid top three, there is Wakefield, Penny, Bucholz, Smoltz, and Masterson. Out of those 5 guys, it would not surprise me if Francona cannot find two dependable starters to take the ball every 5 days. Wakefield has a torn labrum and his durability is waning. Bucholz stunk up the place last season. There is no guarantee that he can be effective this season. Penny looks like an injured bust. Smoltz is 41 with a surgically repaired arm. Masterson is just a pup. I don't think the rotation is deep at all. Heaven forbid that one of the top 3 goes down for any length of time. I'd like them to dump an increasingly unreliable Wakefield and acquire a more dependable arm.[/quote']

 

We dealt with that last yr. We had an IMMENSE AMOUNT OF PITCHING DEPTH. But we really leaned on our top 3 to provide stability while that immense amount of depth sorted itself out. Once we lost Wang, the season was toast.

[Dojji]

We dealt with that last yr. We had an IMMENSE AMOUNT OF PITCHING DEPTH. But we really leaned on our top 3 to provide stability while that immense amount of depth sorted itself out. Once we lost Wang' date=' the season was toast.[/quote']

 

Translation: We had more than 5 starters with big league futures, but 2 of them decided to suck and 2 others were hurt for a significant period of time and our ocean of scrubs couldn't fill in adequately

[BSN07]

We dealt with that last yr. We had an IMMENSE AMOUNT OF PITCHING DEPTH. But we really leaned on our top 3 to provide stability while that immense amount of depth sorted itself out. Once we lost Wang' date=' the season was toast.[/quote']

 

Just because it says SP by their name in the depth chart, doesn't mean you have ML depth at Pitcher.

[Dojji]

Seriously. A team with an IMMENSE AMOUNT OF PITCHING DEPTH doesn't sign Sidney Ponson.