Plan B

[Dojji]

Johjima + Varitek on the same team = pointless FAIL.

 

Disagree.

 

I do think having Tek on the team makes getting Johjima FAR less likely and I said that in my post that kicked this off, BUT, Johjima has some advantages over Tek. He's a better RHH than Tek at this point, he can throw out baserunners a whole lot better than Varitek can, and if you look at his strikeout numbers this guy does not K. At all. Ever. As an RHH pull hitter that makes a lot of contact he seems like a perfect Fenway hitter. Much like Mike Lowell got his career back on its wheels after a year at the Fens.

 

If you accept the premise that Tek is still a switch hitter (I know, I know) it could be made to work. Especially since Johjima has handled R. A. Dickey's knuckler.

[diony]

Clement ahead of the others of course.

[laxtonto]

Teagarden

Clement

Montero

Salty

 

It looks like Clement is less likely to stay behind the Dish than Salty, so I am not entirely sure why an older Clement is ranked in front of Salty.

 

Truthfully these guys are all just a function of cost. If you are looking at them all at the same price the 2 Texas catchers, then Montero, then Clement. The problem is you are not looking at then at a static price.

 

Is Teagarden for Buchholz a better deal than say Salty for Bowden and Hagadone, or Montero or Clement for Bowden and a low tier high potential guy? That would be the true question. Teams will continue to ask for a premium, especially if the Sox start off slow and Tek is as bad behind the plate as last year.

 

Best case scenario is Tek is serviceable league average catcher and the team can wait till the best possible offer and get a young catcher or hopefully one of the young guys show some development.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

It looks like Clement is less likely to stay behind the Dish than Salty' date=' so I am not entirely sure why an older Clement is ranked in front of Salty.[/quote']

 

I don't think anyone is less likely to stay behind the plate than Salty.

[laxtonto]

I don't think anyone is less likely to stay behind the plate than Salty.

 

Salty received decent to good reviews from the Dominican Winter League while Clement has had the whole not being able to say behind the plate question for a few years now. I would equate Clement behind the plate to Max Ramirez, but I think Ramirez has the better bat.

 

To many people look at his error totals last season and fail to take into context that he was trying to pay through a severe groin injury. With Laird already hurt with the same injury, Teagarden at the Olympics, the original MLB backup out for the season and Max Ramirez fighting through a hip flexor injury, Salty got left holding the bag. In hindsight trying to protect a 40 man spot probably caused Salty to finish his season early with forearm soreness due to having to make all his throws with his footwork lagging behind, but at the time he was all they had.

 

I am less worried about Salty being a league average C defensively and more worried about his total inability to hit Lefties. It would be great to see him as a platoon guy, but he has even more value if you don't have to sit him when somebody brings in a lefty reliever to face him late in a game.

[Dipre]

Salty received decent to good reviews from the Dominican Winter League while Clement has had the whole not being able to say behind the plate question for a few years now. I would equate Clement behind the plate to Max Ramirez, but I think Ramirez has the better bat.

 

To many people look at his error totals last season and fail to take into context that he was trying to pay through a severe groin injury. With Laird already hurt with the same injury, Teagarden at the Olympics, the original MLB backup out for the season and Max Ramirez fighting through a hip flexor injury, Salty got left holding the bag. In hindsight trying to protect a 40 man spot probably caused Salty to finish his season early with forearm soreness due to having to make all his throws with his footwork lagging behind, but at the time he was all they had.

 

I am less worried about Salty being a league average C defensively and more worried about his total inability to hit Lefties. It would be great to see him as a platoon guy, but he has even more value if you don't have to sit him when somebody brings in a lefty reliever to face him late in a game.

 

No he didn't.

 

He was so awful behind the plate, he ended up making a lot of his starts at 1B after Miguel Olivo came to play with Escogido, he had an inordinate number of passed balls, and generally looked like his feet were made of lead behind the plate, however, what he did get good reviews on were his bat, relationship with pitchers, and game-calling ability.

 

I should know, since i live in Dominican, and spent the whole time following ballgames he played in.

[26 to 6]

Diaper have you been following the Serie Del Caribe? I love that MLB Network is carrying every game this year. In years passed I would be lucky to pick up a game on a Spanish speaking station from time to time, and although I would prefer to watch winter league play I am loving the fact that I have been able to watch live professional baseball all week. I'm liking Licey, as always.

[CrespoBlows]

Diaper have you been following the Serie Del Caribe? I love that MLB Network is carrying every game this year. In years passed I would be lucky to pick up a game on a Spanish speaking station from time to time' date=' and although I would prefer to watch winter league play I am loving the fact that I have been able to watch live professional baseball all week. I'm liking Licey, as always.[/quote']

 

Maybe you should stop calling him Diaper.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Seconded

[26 to 6]

I don't mean anything by it, just in a joking nature. I actually respect dipre a lot as a poster and enjoy his insight. If he takes offense to it I'll certainly stop.

 

Okay buddy??

[CrespoBlows]

I don't mean anything by it, just in a joking nature. I actually respect dipre a lot as a poster and enjoy his insight. If he takes offense to it I'll certainly stop.

 

Okay buddy??

 

It was a joke?

 

What are you? Five?

[Dipre]

I don't mean anything by it, just in a joking nature. I actually respect dipre a lot as a poster and enjoy his insight. If he takes offense to it I'll certainly stop.

 

Okay buddy??

 

Lol, i'm not particularly fond of it, 26, but it's not such a big deal.

 

I actually haven't been able to watch much of the Caribbean series because i've had some personal problems that have prevent me from getting here early enough from watching the Dominican games, which are the ones i'm most interested in, so i've only been checking boxscores.

 

FWIW, i'm actually a Licey fan, and the Aguilas are my Dominican equivalent to the Yankees, (i hate them with a passion), diony, on the other hand, is an Aguilas fan, and they were humiliated this year, so i haven't heard much trash talking from him (that'll change as soon as the MLB season begins).

 

If there's anything you'd like to know about Dominican baseball or the Caribbean series, feel free to ask me.

 

P.S: Thanks for the backup, Crespo and Jacoby.

[italstallianion]

I would have been there DipreG if I was needed. I just wasn't needed...

[Dipre]

I would have been there DipreG if I was needed. I just wasn't needed...

 

Hahahaha i love this guy.