Wow... Nolan Ryan Never Won Cy Young

[Keeper]

I always thought Nolan Ryan was overrated (.526 wp' date=' 292 losses, a shitload of walks).....but I never knew he never won a Cy Young, pretty amazing. Even more amazing, he was only in [i']contention[/i] (top 10) for the award 8 seasons in a 27 year career.

 

Clemens was in contention 12 times in 24 seasons, and won 7 Cy Youngs. Really remarkable.

 

And Clemens was a goddamn cheater. The Baseball Gods work in mysterious (cruel) ways.

[ydeologi]

How many pitchers have saved 62 games in a season? Where's K-Rod's Cy Young? The Cy Young goes to whichever pitcher had the best overall season, not to the most eye-popping individual accomplishment

 

 

 

Fine but again, the Cy Young award goes to the most effective pitcher of that season, not the guy who got the fans out of their seats the most.

 

And no one is bashing Nolan Ryan, his "ungodly natural stuff" was glorified by the fact that he is a first-ballot hall of famer

 

 

 

Nolan Ryan never had a season like Cliff Lee's 2008 but Cliff Lee won't end up having a career like Nolan Ryan. Ryan's Cy Young shutout is the victim of bad luck more than anything, he had some terrific seasons but there was always at least one guy who had a better one. The Cy Young is not an award based on career merit, it's based on season merit. Lee's season stands up as one of the great ones.

 

I challenge anyone to give me a convincing argument that Ryan should have won the Cy Young in any of the years he finished top 5 in the voting.

 

 

 

Amen. He was a longevity guy, a K guy, but never a clear case for the most dominating performance in a single season. All of his no-hitters and Ks are a fun stat, but that's HoF material, not Cy material.

[porterhouse]

kobe got an mvp in a year where other players played better than him...nolan ryan should have gotten a cy young even for just the sake of it. Saying that a pitcher is good but not good enough for a cy young is saying that he is actually mediocre, not hall of fame or legendary.

[Cocos Disciples]

Not really. Cy Youngs are stupid anyway and they say nothing about one's career.