Replacing the Captain

[Cocos Disciples]

Regardless of how we feel about his performance' date=' Tek will be back in some capacity. His value, far and away, is highest to the sox.[/quote']

 

I don't even know. I mean, he's gonna want a lot of money, and we could get a better catcher for cheaper.

[Dojji]

Regardless of how we feel about his performance' date=' Tek will be back in some capacity. His value, far and away, is highest to the sox.[/quote']

 

Disagree. Pedro and Lowe had some value to the team when they left and both are coming off comparatively better years and SIGNIFICANTLY better postseasons than Varitek just had.

 

I'm not 100% that he's gone, but it's certainly not 100% that he stays.

[Paradisecity]

He's gonna wanna lot of money- That is great. But who on earth will find him valuable enough to give it to him?

 

Are there suitors lining up for him?

[Dojji]

He's gonna wanna lot of money- That is great. But who on earth will find him valuable enough to give it to him?

 

Are there suitors lining up for him?

 

You'd be surprised. There are teams out there that might think that bringing in an experienced, veteran gamecaller, even if he can't hit, would be worth the price. And there are also teams that have catchers that are good at absolutely nothing that would like to "upgrade" to Varitek and take a gamble that he can recover his form offensively and if not, take the discounted version for his ability to help young pitchers.

[Paradisecity]

Pedro and Lowe are pitchers, and fall into a completely different conversation since each team has 5 of them starting and droves of them waiting to pitch.

 

How many teams need a catcher who provides great leadership and hits .220?

 

Look around the league and notice that most teams have their guy already. Notice further that his value is much like that of an employee with retained knowledge. He's worth much less on the open market.

[Cocos Disciples]

But he'll still want a lot, and we shouldn't pay him.

[Paradisecity]

And dont forget to eliminate every team unwilling to spend 4-8 per on a gamble/potential backup catcher.

 

 

The list of suitors is....

[Cocos Disciples]

What do we care though? Just because no one else wants him doesn't mean we have to take him. Don't expect a hometown discount.

[Paradisecity]

I'm not expecting a discount. I'm expecting him to be in a sox uni next year, because it makes financial sense for both the team he plays for and for him.

[Dojji]

What do we care though? Just because no one else wants him doesn't mean we have to take him. Don't expect a hometown discount.

 

 

A hometown discount was exactly what he gave us in the last contract.

 

I heard recently (can't source it) that Varitek has been deliberately avoiding the concept of free agency. A contract year collapse from a guy who's dreading FA wouldn't be a new thing.

 

Varitek has made it very clear in the past that he very much considers himself a Red Sox above all else. I wouldn't be surprised that Varitek got hit by a recursive stress attack and that fueled a lot of his decline "Oh, crap, I suck, I'm gonna be cut because I'm suck, so I'm tense, so I suck worse, so I'm gonna be cut, so I'm tense..." Wouldn't be the first athlete who fell to that one.

 

I wonder what would happen if you offered Tek the Wakefield option at, ohh, about 6M/year It would be the end of having to deal with FA, which Tek has indicated multiple times he prefers not to deal with. Who knows?

[Paradisecity]

Contracts are usually an optimist's "what have you done for me lately"in that if you had a great year the postseason doesn't matter that much, and if you had a great postseason, the year doesn't matter as much.

 

With a s***** year and a s***** postseason, the HIGH end on tek will be 7. I am guessing 5 per.

[kreinbihl34]

A hometown discount was exactly what he gave us in the last contract.

 

I heard recently (can't source it) that Varitek has been deliberately avoiding the concept of free agency. A contract year collapse from a guy who's dreading FA wouldn't be a new thing.

 

Varitek has made it very clear in the past that he very much considers himself a Red Sox above all else. I wouldn't be surprised that Varitek got hit by a recursive stress attack and that fueled a lot of his decline "Oh, crap, I suck, I'm gonna be cut because I'm suck, so I'm tense, so I suck worse, so I'm gonna be cut, so I'm tense..." Wouldn't be the first athlete who fell to that one.

 

I wonder what would happen if you offered Tek the Wakefield option at, ohh, about 6M/year It would be the end of having to deal with FA, which Tek has indicated multiple times he prefers not to deal with. Who knows?

 

With your theory Tek would suck every year because he would fear his opinion not being picked up.

 

Two/Three years at six million per, possible seven will get it done.

[Paradisecity]

I'm not usually one for bold predictions, but I am going down on internet paper as saying Tek signs a 2 year 10M dollar deal with the sox.

[ARod2212]

If I'm the Mets I'd take Varitek. They desperately need a leader in the clubhouse, and Varitek fits that.

 

Schneider could be moved, he's in the last year of his deal. His offense is something Varitek could do in the National League.

[das11209]

Captain Mike Lowell.

 

Could definitely see it happening.

 

What exactly has he done for us this year?

[das11209]

Regardless of how we feel about his performance' date=' Tek will be back in some capacity. His value, far and away, is highest to the sox.[/quote']

 

As long as he does not hold a bat - I am fine with that.