Theories on Ways to Spin Mitchell Report

[a700hitter]

Here's how I think that Roger the Sociopath-Whore will eventually spin the situation. he will continue to try to garner sympathy by claiming that he never took steroids and bemoaning that his good name has been besmirched without the opportunity to be heard. He will do this first through his representatives and then he will do it personally. He may even feign emotion. The press will turn up the heat by asking why he turned down Mitchell's invitation to give his side to the Committee. At this point , he'll come up with some lame excuse. Then he'll be asked why he doesn't bring an action for libel to clear his name. He won't sue because it is true, but he'll lamely lie his way through that set of questions. After looking like lying cheat, he will regroup with his advisers and he will embark on a different strategy. He'lladmit that it is possible that he took steroids, but he didn't know about it, because the trainer was administering it. He will claim that he took injections to treat his groin, hamstring and other injuries, but he thought the substances were legal and prescribed by a doctor. Only the most feeble-minded Yankee fans will buy his story.

 

He's done. He'll forever be branded as a cheater, and it is well-deserved.

 

Also well deserved is the vindication of Dan Duquette who was right that Clemens was in the twilight of his career. Clemens just decided to cheat his way through the twilight. I wonder if those cortisone shots this season were really cortisone.

[YAZMAN]

This is getting crazy, I can't keep track of all the Mitchell information. I think we need a few threads spun off. One for actual releases, one for news agency articles, one for conjecture, one for conspiracy theorists, and one for the stat guys who inevitably will find out how much PED was used by each player and the size of the syringes they used then translate that through some formulaic analysis into some sort of % performance accentuation.

 

We can call that one ROID - Relative Overachievement Induced by Drugs.

[TheKilo]

Here's how I think that Roger the Sociopath-Whore will eventually spin the situation. he will continue to try to garner sympathy by claiming that he never took steroids and bemoaning that his good name has been besmirched without the opportunity to be heard. He will do this first through his representatives and then he will do it personally. He may even feign emotion. The press will turn up the heat by asking why he turned down Mitchell's invitation to give his side to the Committee. At this point , he'll come up with some lame excuse. Then he'll be asked why he doesn't bring an action for libel to clear his name. He won't sue because it is true, but he'll lamely lie his way through that set of questions. After looking like lying cheat, he will regroup with his advisers and he will embark on a different strategy. He'lladmit that it is possible that he took steroids, but he didn't know about it, because the trainer was administering it. He will claim that he took injections to treat his groin, hamstring and other injuries, but he thought the substances were legal and prescribed by a doctor. Only the most feeble-minded Yankee fans will buy his story.

 

He's done. He'll forever be branded as a cheater, and it is well-deserved.

 

Also well deserved is the vindication of Dan Duquette who was right that Clemens was in the twilight of his career. Clemens just decided to cheat his way through the twilight. I wonder if those cortisone shots this season were really cortisone.

 

Duquette never said Clemens was in the twilight of his career.

[Thumper]

Here's how I think that Roger the Sociopath-Whore will eventually spin the situation. he will continue to try to garner sympathy by claiming that he never took steroids and bemoaning that his good name has been besmirched without the opportunity to be heard. He will do this first through his representatives and then he will do it personally. He may even feign emotion. The press will turn up the heat by asking why he turned down Mitchell's invitation to give his side to the Committee. At this point , he'll come up with some lame excuse. Then he'll be asked why he doesn't bring an action for libel to clear his name. He won't sue because it is true, but he'll lamely lie his way through that set of questions. After looking like lying cheat, he will regroup with his advisers and he will embark on a different strategy. He'lladmit that it is possible that he took steroids, but he didn't know about it, because the trainer was administering it. He will claim that he took injections to treat his groin, hamstring and other injuries, but he thought the substances were legal and prescribed by a doctor. Only the most feeble-minded Yankee fans will buy his story.

 

He's done. He'll forever be branded as a cheater, and it is well-deserved.

 

Also well deserved is the vindication of Dan Duquette who was right that Clemens was in the twilight of his career. Clemens just decided to cheat his way through the twilight. I wonder if those cortisone shots this season were really cortisone.

 

Isn't that a similar path Bonds took? If so he better go the other way and just fess up before he ends up getting into a case of perjury, should another investigation arouse.

[He Hate Me]

sounds like he'll always deny it.

 

bonds has the physical evidence but the trainer won't flip on him

 

clemens trainer flipped, but they don't got the physical evidence

 

makes yo wonder when they'll get someone with the physical evidence and a flipping trainer

[Thumper]

sounds like he'll always deny it.

 

bonds has the physical evidence but the trainer won't flip on him

 

clemens trainer flipped, but they don't got the physical evidence

 

makes yo wonder when they'll get someone with the physical evidence and a flipping trainer

 

I say screw humanitarian laws, tie Clemens and Bonds to a chair and beat the confession out of them.

[He Hate Me]

I say screw humanitarian laws' date=' tie Clemens and Bonds to a chair and beat the confession out of them. [/quote']

 

i honeslty would pay to watch that...let A-Rod moderate

[Thumper]

i honeslty would pay to watch that...let A-Rod moderate

 

All the while moderating he'll be thinking in his head "Oh man this could be me had I been on that Mitchell Report!" :harhar:

 

But really, that would be the only way to get them to come clean, beat it out of them. I'm sick of everyone being "humane." Start rubbing money around Clemens's face and tell him it could be his if he confessed. I think he'd go for it.

[TheKilo]

sounds like he'll always deny it.

 

bonds has the physical evidence but the trainer won't flip on him

 

clemens trainer flipped, but they don't got the physical evidence

 

makes yo wonder when they'll get someone with the physical evidence and a flipping trainer

 

Pettitte's admitting he did the stuff is pretty damning.

[schillingouttheks]

All the while moderating he'll be thinking in his head "Oh man this could be me had I been on that Mitchell Report!" :harhar:

 

But really, that would be the only way to get them to come clean, beat it out of them. I'm sick of everyone being "humane." Start rubbing money around Clemens's face and tell him it could be his if he confessed. I think he'd go for it.

 

He would probably confess even if he didn't do it if you rubbed money in his face.

[Taliesin]

Duquette never said Clemens was in the twilight of his career.

 

Stay off of SOSH there KILO. Revisionist historians abound. Actual article....I just wish I could find the original Texas Con Man one from McDonough.

 

I remember this whole scene when it went down and I remember this article. You can posit he was misquoted or that the Herald made it up out of whole cloth which wouldn't be the first time but this was what was relayed at the time to us...the public.

 

 

End of an Era - No return fire from Sox - Brass tried to keep ace

 

By Michael Silverman, Boston Herald

 

December 14, 1996

 

The Red Sox brass kept a mostly stiff upper lip yesterday, putting the shiniest gloss possible on the news that lifelong Sox Roger Clemens had left the fold.

 

Restraining themselves from returning the type of salvos that Clemens threw at the club, and particularly Dan Duquette, during his press conference in Toronto, the general manager and CEO John Harrington were more subtle.

 

The Sox were officially "disappointed" but far from devastated at losing Clemens, who, over 13 seasons, compiled a 192-111 record, three Cy Youngs, two 20-strikeout games and a share of the team lead with Cy Young for most wins and shutouts (38).

 

"The Red Sox and our fans were fortunate to see Roger Clemens play in his prime and we had hoped to keep him in Boston during the "twilight of his career," said Duquette, who joined Harrington on a conference call yesterday afternoon. "We just want to let the fans know that we worked extremely hard to sign Roger Clemens. . . . We made him a substantial, competitive offer, by far the most money ever offered to a player in the history of the Red Sox franchise.

 

"Unfortunately, we just couldn't get together. We were hoping he could finish his career as a Red Sox and we also wanted him to establish a relationship beyond his playing career. We wanted him to have the status of a Ted Williams, but at the end of the day we couldn't get it done." ...

[YAZMAN]

I say screw humanitarian laws' date=' tie Clemens and Bonds to a chair and beat the confession out of them. [/quote']

 

i honeslty would pay to watch that...let A-Rod moderate

 

An interesting concept with Clemens, a pay-per-view performance with him next year versus his pay-per-screw performance last year.

[He Hate Me]

Pettitte's admitting he did the stuff is pretty damning.

 

for some reason I can picture andy not coming forward with this thing earlier because of how bad it would look for Roger.

[rician blast]

Pettitte's admitting he did the stuff is pretty damning.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3156305

 

Yeah, but c'mon, he did say he was trying to get back into action quicker for the sake of the team...and it was only 2 days of his life. Love this part....

 

"If what I did was an error in judgment on my part, I apologize," Pettitte said Saturday in a statement released by his agent. "I accept responsibility for those two days."

 

I suspected this f***er all along and posted such in the past so I was neither surprised at his name being on the list, nor did I really care, I figure he's doing what, at minimum, 50% of MLB players were doing.

 

Now, with this "confession"? I think he's a dishonest f***ing *******. Does anyone really believe that pile of s***?

[a700hitter]

Now' date=' with this "confession"? I think he's a dishonest f***ing *******. Does anyone really believe that pile of s***?[/quote']Nope

[TheKilo]

Stay off of SOSH there KILO. Revisionist historians abound. Actual article....I just wish I could find the original Texas Con Man one from McDonough.

 

I remember this whole scene when it went down and I remember this article. You can posit he was misquoted or that the Herald made it up out of whole cloth which wouldn't be the first time but this was what was relayed at the time to us...the public.

 

 

End of an Era - No return fire from Sox - Brass tried to keep ace

 

By Michael Silverman, Boston Herald

 

December 14, 1996

 

The Red Sox brass kept a mostly stiff upper lip yesterday, putting the shiniest gloss possible on the news that lifelong Sox Roger Clemens had left the fold.

 

Restraining themselves from returning the type of salvos that Clemens threw at the club, and particularly Dan Duquette, during his press conference in Toronto, the general manager and CEO John Harrington were more subtle.

 

The Sox were officially "disappointed" but far from devastated at losing Clemens, who, over 13 seasons, compiled a 192-111 record, three Cy Youngs, two 20-strikeout games and a share of the team lead with Cy Young for most wins and shutouts (38).

 

"The Red Sox and our fans were fortunate to see Roger Clemens play in his prime and we had hoped to keep him in Boston during the said Duquette, who joined Harrington on a conference call yesterday afternoon. "We just want to let the fans know that we worked extremely hard to sign Roger Clemens. . . . We made him a substantial, competitive offer, by far the most money ever offered to a player in the history of the Red Sox franchise.

 

"Unfortunately, we just couldn't get together. We were hoping he could finish his career as a Red Sox and we also wanted him to establish a relationship beyond his playing career. We wanted him to have the status of a Ted Williams, but at the end of the day we couldn't get it done." ...

 

Read the whole sentence though. Duquette wanted Clemens to stay in Boston for the entirety of his career. Eventually, a career ends....hence "twilight of his career."

[TheKilo]

I love that the apology starts off ""If what I did was an error in judgment...."

[rician blast]

I love that the apology starts off ""If what I did was an error in judgment...."

 

Right on...that's beautiful isn't it?

[Taliesin]

I guess..it depends on what your definition of "is" is.

[a700hitter]

After looking like lying cheat' date=' he will regroup with his advisers and he will embark on a different strategy. He'lladmit that it is possible that he took steroids, but he didn't know about it, because the trainer was administering it. He will claim that he took injections to treat his groin, hamstring and other injuries, but he thought the substances were legal and prescribed by a doctor. [b']Only the most feeble-minded Yankee fans will buy his story[/b].

22 to 7, do you really want to be on this list?

[26 to 6]

I love that the apology starts off ""If what I did was an error in judgment...."

I didn't take too kindly to that myself. I still believe him, but he's gotta use better word-choice. Obviously it was an error in judgement Andy. He even went on to state that he didn't feel comfortable with what he was doing so he stopped, so he himself obviously thought it was an error in judgement.

 

NOTE: Don't take my calling Pettitte out on his usage of words and spin it to make it look like a retraction of my satement in which I said I believe him, because I know that would be coming.

[a700hitter]

I didn't take too kindly to that myself. I still believe him, but he's gotta use better word-choice. Obviously it was an error in judgement Andy. He even went on to state that he didn't feel comfortable with what he was doing so he stopped, so he himself obviously thought it was an error in judgement.

 

NOTE: Don't take my calling Pettitte out on his usage of words and spin it to make it look like a retraction of my satement in which I said I believe him, because I know that would be coming.

I would have given him credit if his statement started ewith the following: "There was too much money at stake not to try everything that might help me perform. I got caught and I am paying the price."

 

That would be honest.

[rician blast]

but he's gotta use better word-choice.

 

Especially since he had a couple of days to come up with his wording.