Yankees Catch-All Postseason Thread

[TheKilo]

Farnsworth may be on the move:

 

The Orioles would be interesting in picking up Kyle Farnsworth from the Yankees, says the New York Times.

 

Since he's due to make $5.5 million in 2008 and then become a free agent, Farnsworth would hardly be a key piece in a Miguel Tejada trade. Still, if he comes cheap in terms of talent, the Orioles could spend the cash and plug him into the closer's role.

 

Pettitte will make decision by January 1st:

 

Andy Pettitte said Wednesday that he plans to make a decision regarding his 2008 status by January 1.

 

"I'm realistic, and I realize that, come the first of the year, I won't be able to prepare myself the way I need to prepare myself for the season," Pettitte said. "I understand the work I need to do to get ready. I won't play if it means trying to short-cut getting ready for the season."

 

John Damon likes to run his mouth - http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/thebuzz/:

 

"I know teams would want a player like me. A guy who keeps the clubhouse loose. A guy who has been very durable and will be durable next year. I think everyone realized how important I was to the team last year once I got healthy. When I was in the lineup every day, I think our winning percentage was around .700. I think that's a testament to the type of player that I am and the kind of stuff I can bring to the table. I think someone would have to dazzle them with an amazing offer."

[TheKilo]

Yankees may be interested in Tejada:

 

Though it's much too early to fit Miguel Tejada for pinstripes, it's not entirely out of the question either. Seeking a potential replacement for free agent third baseman Alex Rodriguez, the New York Yankees have some interest in the Orioles' star infielder, according to an industry source.

 

How much interest they have, and how willing the Orioles will be to trade their most accomplished player to a division rival remains to be seen. One of several reasons the Orioles balked at trading Tejada to the Boston Red Sox after the 2005 season was because some in the organization, including owner Peter Angelos, were hesitant to help out a division rival.

 

"We have to be open-minded to anything," said Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail, talking in general about the potential of moving Tejada. "If we think a deal at the end of the day makes sense for us, we're going to do it."

 

One industry source said the Yankees' No. 1 choice to replace Rodriguez is Cabrera, the 24-year-old slugger with a .313 career average and 138 home runs and 523 RBIs in 720 big league games. New Yankees manager Joe Girardi, who managed Cabrera for one season in Florida, made no attempt to hide his interest in a reunion with the player.

 

However, Hank Steinbrenner, the son of the Yankees owner, told the Associated Press tonight that the club wasn't interested in trading top young pitchers Joba Chamberlain, Ian Kennedy and Phil Hughes. That could made landing Cabrera difficult.

 

The Orioles' asking price for Tejada, 31, who has .305 with 17 home runs and 94 RBIs in 123 career games against New York, would figure to be significantly less than what the Marlins would want for Cabrera.

 

The Orioles are primarily looking for talented position player prospects who are close to major league ready. The Yankees are thin in that area, but do have a wealth of young pitching. MacPhail said the Orioles are in no position to discriminate.

 

"Let's get the young talent first and then we'll sort it out," MacPhail said.

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-tejada1107,0,378261.story

[TheKilo]

Rivera making Yankees wat:

 

Mariano Rivera received a three-year, $39 million offer from the Yankees and has not yet responded. Rivera wasn't happy that the Yankees didn't sign him this spring, made him wait and counted on his well-known loyalty, so now he's turning the tables and making them wait.

 

Posada doing the same:

 

His longtime batterymate, Jorge Posada, also has the Yankees right where he wants them. New York is offering a three-year deal for similar money, but Posada knows that he can get four-year deals elsewhere and will bank for now on the Yankees caving. With Alex Rodriguez almost surely gone and Miguel Cabrera unlikely as a replacement, Posada understands how devastating his loss would be to the team. The next best available catchers are Yorvit Torrealba and Paul Lo Duca, solid players who aren't in Posada's class.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/jon_heyman/11/07/scoop.wednesday/2.html

[BoSox21]

Damon is pretty conceited, but he is right. He was hobbled last year but still played 141 games. Fact is though, his injuries are catching up with him and will keep catching up with him so I'm not so sure he'll continue to be durable

 

And Buster Olney said the Padres and Yanks briefly discussed a trade involving Melky and Hughes for Jake Peavy although Peavy is still 2 years away from free agency

[TheKilo]

Damon is pretty conceited' date=' but he is right. He was hobbled last year but still played 141 games. Fact is though, his injuries are catching up with him and will keep catching up with him so I'm not so sure he'll continue to be durable[/quote']

 

He's not right. He was signed to play center field and he can no longer do that. He didn't go on the DL even though it was clear he was playing through injuries that clearly affected him.

 

He has little value has a corner OF or a DH.

[BoSox21]

He's not right. He was signed to play center field and he can no longer do that. He didn't go on the DL even though it was clear he was playing through injuries that clearly affected him.

 

He has little value has a corner OF or a DH.

 

He didn't mention anything about his defensive abilities. And considering he was hobbled, he was still pretty productive, granted not $13 million productive but he remains a tough out for any team

[ORS]

Nomaas is trying to concoct a Matsui for Kemp trade, stating the Yankees can take advantage of Torre's sentimentalities for "his guys". The hope and despair is so thick in Yankeefandom that you need a machete to cut a path through it.

[TheKilo]

He didn't mention anything about his defensive abilities. And considering he was hobbled' date=' he was still pretty productive, granted not $13 million productive but he remains a tough out for any team[/quote']

 

.270/.351/.396

.268/.330/.382

 

One of these players put up this stat line as a corner OF/DH.

One put it up as a CF and had an historically good defensive season, for 1/3 of the cost.

[TheKilo]

Nomaas is trying to concoct a Matsui for Kemp trade' date=' stating the Yankees can take advantage of Torre's sentimentalities for "his guys". The hope and despair is so thick in Yankeefandom that you need a machete to cut a path through it.[/quote']

 

Unbelievable.

[ORS]

More MFYF nonsense (slow day at work):

 

Apparently, there was a meeting yesterday between NY and SD at the GM meetings. The topic of Peavy for Hughes & Melky came up and was quickly discarded. The prevailing sentiment is that Cashman must have immediately rejected the offer because getting a triple crown pitcher is not enough phor that pitcher and a phourth OF.

[TheKilo]

More MFYF nonsense (slow day at work):

 

Apparently, there was a meeting yesterday between NY and SD at the GM meetings. The topic of Peavy for Hughes & Melky came up and was quickly discarded. The prevailing sentiment is that Cashman must have immediately rejected the offer because getting a triple crown pitcher is not enough phor that pitcher and a phourth OF.

 

Per Rotoworld:

 

According to ESPN's Buster Olney, the Yankees and Padres briefly discussed a trade that would have sent Jake Peavy to New York for Phil Hughes and Melky Cabrera.

 

It's not going to happen, though that would have been worth doing from the Yankees' perspective. Peavy, who is two years away from free agency, might become available next winter. The Padres will want to keep him for 2008.

[jacksonianmarch]

I dont like the idea of dealing for Peavy. He has a small frame, a herky jerky motion, and has been pitching in the worst league ever created in the NL West. Plus, it will cost one of our young pitchers and another player plus more. Santana should be the only guy we are willing to deal something of substance for.

[26 to 6]

I agree. As much as I like Peavy, it's ot worth what it would cost, considering he is a little bit overvalued. I mean hey, if we could get him for a lesser package then i'm all for it. I wouldn't even wanna trade Melky for him....

 

Won't happen though. Talks died quickly and I doubt they would be revived.

[ORS]

Peavy just won the pitching triple crown in the NL. And you wouldn't want to trade a .718 OPS CF, who was one of the worst CF in baseball according to the Fielding Bible and ought to move to a corner, for him. Yet Peavy is being overvalued? Might want to think about that one. Melky stinks, and Hughes has a s*** load of improving to do before he approaches a pitching triple crown. Overvalued? That's rich.

[a700hitter]

Peavy just won the pitching triple crown in the NL. And you wouldn't want to trade a .718 OPS CF' date=' who was one of the worst CF in baseball according to the Fielding Bible and ought to move to a corner, for him. Yet Peavy is being overvalued? Might want to think about that one. Melky stinks, and Hughes has a s*** load of improving to do before he approaches a pitching triple crown. Overvalued? That's rich.[/quote']Hopefully, Cashman agrees with him.

[yankees228]

I agree. As much as I like Peavy, it's ot worth what it would cost, considering he is a little bit overvalued. I mean hey, if we could get him for a lesser package then i'm all for it. I wouldn't even wanna trade Melky for him....

 

Won't happen though. Talks died quickly and I doubt they would be revived.

 

You wouldn't trade Melky Cabrera for Jake Peavy?

 

I don't even think I need to argue this. It pretty much argues itself.

[26 to 6]

Peavy just won the pitching triple crown in the NL. And you wouldn't want to trade a .718 OPS CF' date=' who was one of the worst CF in baseball according to the Fielding Bible and ought to move to a corner, for him. Yet Peavy is being overvalued? Might want to think about that one. Melky stinks, and Hughes has a s*** load of improving to do before he approaches a pitching triple crown. Overvalued? That's rich.[/quote']

For our top pitching prospect and center fielder, I think that would be overvalued. You wanna say maybe Kennedy and Melky, or an arrangement of other prospects then maybe we can talk. But Hughes has the potential to be better than Peavy..

[26 to 6]

You wouldn't trade Melky Cabrera for Jake Peavy?

 

I don't even think I need to argue this. It pretty much argues itself.

Straight up I would obviously make that deal..but it would take more than that. What I was getting at though is that I would prefer to keep Melky out of a deal.

[jacksonianmarch]

Peavy just won the pitching triple crown in the NL. And you wouldn't want to trade a .718 OPS CF' date=' who was one of the worst CF in baseball according to the Fielding Bible and ought to move to a corner, for him. Yet Peavy is being overvalued? Might want to think about that one. Melky stinks, and Hughes has a s*** load of improving to do before he approaches a pitching triple crown. Overvalued? That's rich.[/quote']

 

you could probably find a fielding journal that wouldnt like any player. The point is, Melky had a top 6 ZR, a top 3 RF and led all CFers in assists.

 

What I find funny is that you guys think you will get a better player for Crisp than you would for Melky. Yet Melky has similar ZR and RF and a better arm and is younger. Do you like your hypocrisy warm or cold?

 

I am not under the assumption that Melky is about to be a .330/30HR kind of guy, but I know what its like to have a poor CFer. Remember Bernie? No arm, no leg, no chance on anything hit to his right left or over his head. And I do think that Melky can put a whole season together and be a .300 hitter. Hell he was a .300 hitter coming into September even though he started the yr in a brutal fashion.

 

In terms of Peavy, I worry about a guy like that. He has logged a lot of innings on a small frame in the NL. He has had his share of big game failures and minor tweaks, strains and breaks. I dont think he will last all that long, and I think Hughes will. Melky for Peavy, sign me up, but no one would do that. Hughes in the mix, I dont think so.

[ORS]

UZR, the Fielding Bible, and PMR's methodology is the best there is at measuring defensive contribution. By UZR Crisp is +30, by the Fielding Bible he's +44, and I can't find 2007 PMR's. No hypocrisy needed, with similar levels of offensive performance Crisp is more valuable. The RC/G was 4.4 Crisp, 4.3 Melky Mantle. Face it, Melky's defensive capability is best suited for RF, and he'd be a good one, IMO. The only problem is his bat projects at 2B. So, do you like your big cup of STFU warm or cold?

[26 to 6]

Crisp is more valuable than Melky?

 

BTW, what's UZR? Apearantly all you Red-Legs do around here is look at statistical analysis to evaluate your players, something I was never too keen on. I'm gonna have to start getting into that I suppose to counter half of your ******** arguements.

[CrespoBlows]

Crisp is more valuable than Melky?

 

BTW, what's UZR? Apearantly all you Red-Legs do around here is look at statistical analysis to evaluate your players, something I was never too keen on. I'm gonna have to start getting into that I suppose to counter half of your ******** arguements.

 

Melky makes Robbie Cano smile, so that counts for at least 10 wins, so STFU, ORS.

[TheKilo]

Melky makes Robbie Cano smile' date=' so that counts for at least 10 wins, so STFU, ORS.[/quote']

 

What's his grit factor?

[26 to 6]

Melky makes Robbie Cano smile' date=' so that counts for at least 10 wins, so STFU, ORS.[/quote']

haha good point

[yankees228]

Carl Pavano is going to be released to free up room on the 40 man roster. I have a feeling he's not going to be missed.

 

Also, Posada was interviewed at halftime during tonight's Knicks game, and he said one thing of substance in my opinion...that he wants to sign with a team within the first week of free agency. He also said that it's basically between the Yankees and the Mets.

[26 to 6]

I was watching the Knicks game and saw that they said they would be speaking with Jorge...but I didnt have time to wait around, had s*** to do. Wish I would have seen it though...

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Peter Abraham's blog has some quotes from the interview:

 

Update on his situation: “We’re working on it. We’re working with the Yankees. We’re going to hear from the Mets tomorrow. I have no idea. … I would like to stay with the Yankees. My heart is with the Yankees, so hopefully we can get something done.

 

Does he want to stay with Yankees? “That would be the first choice, yes.”

 

When do you want to get this done: “I don’t know yet.”

 

Are you going to listen to other teams: “Yes.”

 

Are you in the driver’s seat? “Yeah. Yeah. We’re really close. It’s not about the money. For me, it’s the best situation.”

 

On Joe Girardi: “I love Joe. You know, Joe’s like a big brother to me. He’s been a big brother to me since like ‘96, so hopefully I’m hopefully looking forward to working with him.”

 

Are chances better than 50-50 you’ll be a Yankee? “Yes. Right now it’s up in the air, but the chances are good.”

 

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/11/posada-i-want-to-stay-with-the-yankees/

[Gom]

Both Posada and Rivera will be coming back. They were never the issue.

[das11209]

Mo update. Don't forget your luxary tax calculator Cashman.

 

I am beginning to wonder what will be the average age of a Yankee player in 3 years time. I thought Cashman is making the team younger.

 

According to the New York Times, the Yankees have increased their offer to Mariano Rivera to $45 million over three seasons.

 

Billy Wagner's $10.75 million average is the currently the highest among closers, so it's a huge offer for the 35-year-old Rivera. If his previous statements about the Yankees being his first choice are accurate, then he figures to follow Jorge Posada by re-signing relatively quickly.

 

[26 to 6]

Mo update. Don't forget your luxary tax calculator Cashman.

 

I am beginning to wonder what will be the average age of a Yankee player in 3 years time. I thought Cashman is making the team younger.

What luxury tax? We're building a privately financed ballpark.

 

Peace luxury tax!!

..for now at least