Where will A-Rod land?

[Taliesin]

I think the naivety is coming from he who feels inclined to say that

 

She, but thanks for the compliment. I think. And the overblown apocalyptic scenario was not my intent or my position. I do love that we just won the World Series twice in my lifetime and we can still have heated arguments in November about the greatest game ever invented. Used to think I'd be content w/ just winning the damn thing once. Ride off into the sunset assuaged w/ final victory. Turns out I just love the game, and that team which plays in that lyrical little bandbox all year round. It's that passion and a faithfulness that has stayed w/ me for decades and carries me through many obstacles and a quality I've passed on to my daughter. In these small matters which translate into character and into larger ones which define it.

[Mr Crunchy]

Jesus, what a joke! I know its nice to dislike A-Rod and everything, but really, does he deserve to be vilified the way some here are doing? I mean, he's not Milton Bradley. He's not out there saying "I am the greatest". He's not demanding to leave early to go home instead of the all-star game; he's not showing up late at spring training; he's not sitting on the bench down the stretch; he's not lolligagging around the bases.

 

 

are we talking about the same guy?

the guy who announced hes leaving ny in the middle of a 23 yr old cancer survivors gem in the clinching game of the world series??

hes not saying hes the greatest....hes above that.

hes screaming to anyone who will listen

I AM BASEBALL AND YOU WILL PAY ATTENTION WHEN I SPEAK

sort of like Chad Michael Michaels in ""blades of glory"".

 

i have no objection to him playing here

but lets not pretend hes anything outside the raging **** that he is with a bigger gash for a mouthpiece...

if you need further evidence of his behavior consider the world baseball series when he was torn between his loyalties...... to 3 different nations.

the man is a great baseball player but it is people like him who turn many fans away believe it or not...

[das11209]

Jesus, what a joke! I know its nice to dislike A-Rod and everything, but really, does he deserve to be vilified the way some here are doing? I mean, he's not Milton Bradley. He's not out there saying "I am the greatest". He's not demanding to leave early to go home instead of the all-star game; he's not showing up late at spring training; he's not sitting on the bench down the stretch; he's not lolligagging around the bases.

 

 

are we talking about the same guy?

the guy who announced hes leaving ny in the middle of a 23 yr old cancer survivors gem in the clinching game of the world series??

hes not saying hes the greatest....hes above that.

hes screaming to anyone who will listen

I AM BASEBALL AND YOU WILL PAY ATTENTION WHEN I SPEAK

sort of like Chad Michael Michaels in ""blades of glory"".

 

i have no objection to him playing here

but lets not pretend hes anything outside the raging **** that he is with a bigger gash for a mouthpiece...

if you need further evidence of his behavior consider the world baseball series when he was torn between his loyalties...... to 3 different nations.

the man is a great baseball player but it is people like him who turn many fans away believe it or not...

 

A-Rod is a jerk the way Bonds is - not the way Milton Bradley is. It never affects his performance on the field.

[Taliesin]

You should be careful w/ absolutes.....never & always.

 

I agree with the Yankee fan lawyer in this article. "In the ONLY season that counts" and "Are you people insane?"

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/11/11/2007-11-11_scott_boras_talks_big_bucks_but_arod_lac-8.html

[YAZMAN]

arod.com

[das11209]

So - we have been branded as losers in A-Rod derby. Big deal.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/john_donovan/11/15/winners.losers/index.html?bcnn=yes

 

P.S. It sucks that Yankees got him and we did not.

[TheKilo]

So - we have been branded as losers in A-Rod derby. Big deal.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/john_donovan/11/15/winners.losers/index.html?bcnn=yes

 

P.S. It sucks that Yankees got him and we did not.

 

Wow, you're really beat up about this.

[das11209]

Wow' date=' you're really beat up about this.[/quote']

 

I am pissed - and well justified. We lost out on the best player and our rivals got him and we have no viable options at this point.

[TheKilo]

I am pissed - and well justified. We lost out on the best player and our rivals got him and we have no viable options at this point.

 

1. Ddid you want to spend $275 for ARod for 10 years?

 

2. Are you on the inside, knwoing all the dealings of the FO? How do you know we don't have any viable options?

 

You're overreacting.

[das11209]

You're overreacting.

 

Hope you are right.

[Cocos Disciples]

So - we have been branded as losers in A-Rod derby. Big deal.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/john_donovan/11/15/winners.losers/index.html?bcnn=yes

 

P.S. It sucks that Yankees got him and we did not.

 

What a terrible article. How about the Yankees as losers? Their roster does not change, and yet they have to spend, what 20 million more dollars (not sure on that figure...how much was Texas paying?). And the Red Sox as losers? The article states that the Yankees "reeled in the best player in baseball". This is the same guy THAT THEY ALREADY HAD. This doesn't hurt our team.

[He Hate Me]

What a terrible article. How about the Yankees as losers? Their roster does not change' date=' and yet they have to spend, what 20 million more dollars (not sure on that figure...how much was Texas paying?). And the Red Sox as losers? The article states that the Yankees "reeled in the best player in baseball". This is the same guy THAT THEY ALREADY HAD. This doesn't hurt our team.[/quote']

 

I have to agree with this. We had a chance to do some MAJOR addition by subtraction with ARod, and we didn't. Meanwhile the Sox still have their rotation intact for the most part with a healthy Lester for next year and Bucholz moving to a full time starter. I really don't see why the Sox would be losers in this, I never expected them to make a serious run at A-Rod anyway.

[Jayhawk Bill]

I have to agree with this. We had a chance to do some MAJOR addition by subtraction with ARod' date=' and we didn't. Meanwhile the Sox still have their rotation intact for the most part with a healthy Lester for next year and Bucholz moving to a full time starter. I really don't see why the Sox would be losers in this, I never expected them to make a serious run at A-Rod anyway.[/quote']

 

Good post.

 

In the Yankees favor, A-Rod is probably worth the rumored salary of 10/275. Yes, he gets a huge guaranteed payday, far more than the $80 million-odd that he had guaranteed under his previous contract, and even more than the $230 million-odd that accepting an extension of 5/150 would have given him. But the Yankees will have paid fair value if this deal is signed: they can afford it, A-Rod's body phenotype and personality both suggest that he'll age exceptionally gracefully, and this gives New York a star, if not a superstar, for a decade to come.

 

But from the linked article, a couple of passages that would trouble me were I a Yankees fan:

 

Winners: Hank and Hal Steinbrenner: They played the A-Rod snubbing perfectly, acting the slighted ones, vowing to go on without him, and now the owners' kids look positively magnanimous in welcoming him back. In reality, they're just playing hardball the old-fashioned Yankees' way; spending, sometimes overspending, to get the best players. This team is different than the old Yanks, though, because a gaggle of talented young players are ready to complement all those high-priced veterans. It's indeed a new era for the Yankees, and the Steinbrenners are leading the way.

 

Loser: Derek Jeter: He remains, in many fans' minds, the king of the Yankees. Yet in many ways, he has been permanently relegated to second-tier status on his own team, not as talented as A-Rod and not as well paid. Sure, he has those rings. Sure, he's still a very good bat toward the top of the lineup. He is still the link to the most-recent Yankees' glories. But that was then. A-Rod is now.

 

Loser: Joe Torre: Torre is literally the odd man out. A-Rod won't be joining him with the Dodgers. Neither, in all likelihood, will Pettitte or Rivera. The Yanks, before the winter is over, may well be a better team without the man who led them to 12 straight postseasons and four World Series titles. Torre, meanwhile, is stuck with the dysfunctional, underachieving Dodgers.

 

George Steinbrenner, even in his dotage, had a gravitas similar to but greater than Lucchino's. He was the power, not the capable Brian Cashman, and he put together a dynasty-level team a decade ago using exceptional young talent, the best free agents to supplement his core players, and the leadership of Jeter on the field and Torre on the bench.

 

Next to George Steinbrenner, his sons are whiny little brats; next to Torre, Girardi is a loudmouthed punk who insulted his last front office publicly; next to Jeter, A-Rod is a gelding.

 

I can't fault the rumored contract. I fault the analysis that, if all put together, this makes the Yankees better. On the field, it's a status quo: their young pitchers may get better, but their high-priced free agents will almost certainly fade. Off the field, it's a huge risk, and in particular I see the simultaneous emergence of Girardi and eclipsing of Jeter as potentially boding ill.

[Mr Crunchy]

si needs to do something to keep the tri staters from going over the edge.

 

they can say the yanks won

but paying out 400M to a 37yr old closer a 36 yr old catcher and the balance to mr october himself puts them 1 year older and no better than last year..

they won the same s*** thats gotten them nowhere.

arod doesnt want to be in ny

if he did he wouldnt have bowed out of his existing contract before listening..

 

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