September 23rd @ Tampa Bay

[TheKilo]

It depends. If we finish with the second best record' date=' we stay home. Otherwise, we are on the road. I'm rooting to win, but not at the risk of hurting the post-season chances.[/quote']

 

And the point is to get to second you need to jump two teams. Unlikely to be sure.

 

Yanks having issues themselves in the Bronx...

[Gom]

And the point is to get to second you need to jump two teams. Unlikely to be sure.

 

Yanks having issues themselves in the Bronx...

 

Assuming we win today [just for arguments sake], that leaves us one back of the Angels and Red Sox in the loss column. Easily attainable. If we win, that is.

[a700hitter]

Assuming we win today [just for arguments sake]' date=' that leaves us one back of the Angels and Red Sox in the loss column. Easily attainable. If we win, that is.[/quote']It will be even easier if Torre uses all his amo this week.

[Gom]

Actually, my statement wasn't 100% correct. In order to win the division, we only have to tie the Sox. So we are only effectively 1 game behind the Red Sox. To beat out the Angels, we have to beat them because they have won the season series from us, so we are effectively 2 games behind the Angels.

[a700hitter]

Actually' date=' my statement wasn't 100% correct. In order to win the division, we only have to tie the Sox. So we are only effectively 1 game behind the Red Sox. To beat out the Angels, we have to beat them because they have won the season series from us, so we are effectively 2 games behind the Angels.[/quote']and if you win the division, but fail to pass LA and Cleveland, you will not have the Home Field advantage in the first round.

[Gom]

and if you win the division' date=' but fail to pass LA and Cleveland, you will not have the Home Field advantage in the first round.[/quote']

 

At that point, it is completely and utterly inconsequential to me. The only way it would matter at that point is if we win...and if you win. Then in the ALCS, we get a potential game 7. Not much if you ask me, definitely not worth tiring out your players.

[a700hitter]

At that point' date=' it is completely and utterly inconsequential to me. The only way it would matter at that point is if we win...and if you win. Then in the ALCS, we get a potential game 7. Not much if you ask me, definitely not worth tiring out your players.[/quote']Game 7 at the stadium turn out pretty nicely the last time, but i think Joe should go for it. Can they get Proctor back for the final week.

[Gom]

Yankees win....theeeee Yankees WIN!

[Gom]

Game 7 at the stadium turn out pretty nicely the last time' date=' but i think Joe should go for it. Can they get Proctor back for the final week.[/quote']

 

The one before it was more exciting. More heartbreaking for the losers.

[TheKilo]

The one before it was more exciting. More heartbreaking for the losers.

 

And it was the catalyst to a World Series championship.

[a700hitter]

The one before it was more exciting. More heartbreaking for the losers.

Not really. The only way to lose an extra inning game in the opposing team's home park is by a walk-off of some sort. It was over in a flash. Losing 4 in a row after being ahead 3 games to none had to be like being skinned alive, especially since it had never happened in the history of the game, never mind happening to the greatest franchise in the game.

[riverside sluggers]

Thats your best defense?

 

--- Yankee fans had to endure watching their championship team... not being able to win any of the last 4 games against their heated rival

 

--- It happened at your park

[Gom]

Thats your best defense?

 

--- Yankee fans had to endure watching their championship team... not being able to win any of the last 4 games against their heated rival

 

--- It happened at your park

 

I'm serious when I say that 2001 hurt more than 2004. That was not really a very likeable team, and it would have been worse if we lost in extra innings. We were never in game 7, so by the time the game ended, most of us were drunk, saying f*** it. Trust me when I say this. You guys cared a million times more about winning than we did about losing. However, in 2003, I think it killed you guys as much as we loved it.

 

As for the park, I could care less. The one game playoff in 78 would have been the same at home as it was in Fenway.

[a700hitter]

I'm serious when I say that 2001 hurt more than 2004. That was not really a very likeable team, and it would have been worse if we lost in extra innings. We were never in game 7, so by the time the game ended, most of us were drunk, saying f*** it. Trust me when I say this. You guys cared a million times more about winning than we did about losing. However, in 2003, I think it killed you guys as much as we loved it.

 

As for the park, I could care less. The one game playoff in 78 would have been the same at home as it was in Fenway.

Yeah, you may have been drunk and saying "f*** it" in game 7 in 2004, but starting the next day you all hid from us and stayed hidden throughout the remainder of the Fall and Winter.

[jacksonianmarch]

not I. If you cannot take it, you shouldnt dish it out. I took it on a sox site and took it hard the next day. And rightfully so.

[Gom]

Yeah' date=' you may have been drunk and saying "f*** it" in game 7 in 2004, but starting the next day you all hid from us and stayed hidden throughout the remainder of the Fall and Winter.[/quote']

I joined this site in August of last year, dumbass.

 

What you Sox fans don't get is that you hate us a million more time than we hate you. We've beaten you every single time when it counted except for one year. One year. Great comeback, historic, yes I know, but it was just one year. So we have quite a bit to keep us walking around head held high. You know, if you had won the Aaron Boone game, that would have bothered us. Considering you guys destroyed us in Game 7 made it easier. Always easier to lose a blowout than a close one on the psyche. We're used to winning, you're used to losing. As a fan base, we have all the confidence in the world we'll get you next time. Can you guys say the same?

[Cocos Disciples]

Oh yeah, the join date. That doesn't have troll written all over it...

[a700hitter]

I joined this site in August of last year' date=' dumbass. [/quote']I was n't speaking about you or this site, but rather I was speaking generically. I am glad that you are not one of the haters that you talk about.

 

What you Sox fans don't get is that you hate us a million more time than we hate you. We've beaten you every single time when it counted except for one year.

One year. Great comeback, historic, yes I know, but it was just one year. So we have quite a bit to keep us walking around head held high. You know, if you had won the Aaron Boone game, that would have bothered us. Considering you guys destroyed us in Game 7 made it easier. Always easier to lose a blowout than a close one on the psyche.

To which years are you referring when you beat us in a game when you were on the brink of elimination other than 1978 and 2003... just curious. That's two games. We beat you in 4 straight games when we could have been eliminated. That's 4-2 in favor of the Red Sox in my lifetime.

We're used to winning' date=' you're used to losing. As a fan base, we have all the confidence in the world we'll get you next time. Can you guys say the same?[/quote']All baseball fans experience more losing than winning. Even the Yanks with the 26 Championships have lost more than they have won. I remember Yankee fans being very confident in 2006 when facing the sputtering Tiger team that really wasn't very good as it showed when it got trounced by a .500 NL team. That turned out really well for you didn't it.

[TheKilo]

I joined this site in August of last year, dumbass.

 

What you Sox fans don't get is that you hate us a million more time than we hate you. We've beaten you every single time when it counted except for one year. One year. Great comeback, historic, yes I know, but it was just one year. So we have quite a bit to keep us walking around head held high. You know, if you had won the Aaron Boone game, that would have bothered us. Considering you guys destroyed us in Game 7 made it easier. Always easier to lose a blowout than a close one on the psyche. We're used to winning, you're used to losing. As a fan base, we have all the confidence in the world we'll get you next time. Can you guys say the same?

 

I'm curious, what position did you play in '78? '03?

 

1946 doesn't bother me, I wasn't alive.

1967 doesn't bother me, I wasn't alive.

1978 doesn't bother me, I wasn't alive.

1986 doesn't bother me, I was less than a year old.

1999 bothered me a little bit, but you guys were clearly the better team (and got assistance from the umps).

2003 bothered me a lot.

2004 erased 1999 and 2003 for me, permanently.

 

So do I think we'll get you next time? Yeah, the two teams have been too even for too long not to think that way, and the Sox are 1-2 against you guys in my lifetime. Law of averages, right?

[Gom]

78, 86, 99, 2003....I loved every second. 2004 was a blip on the radar....

I also loved 1996, 98, and 2000. Soon, I can add 2007 to that list.

[redsoxrules]

Soon' date=' I can add 2007 to that list.[/quote']

 

[Gom]

I was n't speaking about you or this site, but rather I was speaking generically. I am glad that you are not one of the haters that you talk about.

 

To which years are you referring when you beat us in a game when you were on the brink of elimination other than 1978 and 2003... just curious. That's two games. We beat you in 4 straight games when we could have been eliminated. That's 4-2 in favor of the Red Sox in my lifetime. All baseball fans experience more losing than winning. Even the Yanks with the 26 Championships have lost more than they have won. I remember Yankee fans being very confident in 2006 when facing the sputtering Tiger team that really wasn't very good as it showed when it got trounced by a .500 NL team. That turned out really well for you didn't it.

 

 

Are you counting 99 too? To me, I don't think any of you would have been devastated had you been swept in 2004, or out in 5 games. I don't really believe you believe your math, but so be it.

 

I am still convinced of the following: Of our two series, 2003 and 2004, the better team lost. In both cases. That's what makes it great.

 

I think what makes this post season awesome..or at least I hope so..is that all the teams have similar records, have weaknesses, and there is no run-away team. Should be fun.

[Gom]

Oh yeah' date=' the join date. That doesn't have troll written all over it...[/quote']

Yes..that it does. No two ways around that one. To tell you the truth, what killed most Yankee sites was how, after the fact, we "knew" we would sweep. Ridiculously pretentious. Basically, take ORS, clone him 500 times, and make him a Yankee fan. That's why I left.

[a700hitter]

I have made some clarifying edits in red below:

I'm curious, what position did you play in '78? '03?

 

1946 doesn't bother me, I wasn't alive.(The Yankees did not eliminate the Red Sox)

1967 doesn't bother me, I wasn't alive.(The Yankees did not eliminate the Red Sox)

1978 doesn't bother me, I wasn't alive.

1986 doesn't bother me, I was less than a year old.)The Yankees did not eliminate the Red Sox)

1999 bothered me a little bit, but you guys were clearly the better team (and got assistance from the umps).(The Yankees were a far superior team and they did not face an elimination game throughout the post season.)

2003 bothered me a lot.

2004 erased 1999 and 2003 for me, permanently.

 

So do I think we'll get you next time? Yeah, the two teams have been too even for too long not to think that way, and the Sox are 1-2 against you guys in my lifetime. Law of averages, right?

 

In your lifetime the Red Sox have beaten the Yankees 5 times (4 in 2004 and 1 in 2003) when the Red Sox were facing elimination. The Yankees returned the favor only once when they were facing elimination..

[TheKilo]

78, 86, 99, 2003....I loved every second. 2004 was a blip on the radar....

I also loved 1996, 98, and 2000. Soon, I can add 2007 to that list.

 

How old are you, Gom?

[TheKilo]

Yes..that it does. No two ways around that one. To tell you the truth' date=' what killed most Yankee sites was how, after the fact, we "knew" we would sweep. Ridiculously pretentious. Basically, take ORS, clone him 500 times, and make him a Yankee fan. That's why I left.[/quote']

 

I think you have your definition of "pretentious" wrong.

[yankees228]

78, 86, 99, 2003....I loved every second. 2004 was a blip on the radar....

I also loved 1996, 98, and 2000. Soon, I can add 2007 to that list.

 

How can you honestly refer to 2004 as a "blip on the radar screen"? I don't think I really need to explain this.

 

By the way, I think you guys were talking about 2004 vs. 2001 for Yankee fans. For me 2001 hurt more simply because they were two outs away from a world championship, and that was the last game for a bunch of the players. Don't get me wrong, 2004 was awful, but being two outs away from a championship hurts.

[Gom]

I have made some clarifying edits in red below:

 

 

In your lifetime the Red Sox have beaten the Yankees 5 times (4 in 2004 and 1 in 2003) when the Red Sox were facing elimination. The Yankees returned the favor only once when they were facing elimination..

 

I could care less about elimination games. I care about the zero sum of one per series. So just in that sense, in my actively watching lifetime, 3 times, 78, 99, and 2003. You got us once in 2004. We knocked you out three times, you knocked us out once. Say what you want about the comeback, blah blah blah. You would have loved it if you swept us out of the ALCS on the way to your championship. I'm not taking anything away from you guys in 2004. But it was just one series. Even though it wasn't us, most Red Sox fans who were there in 1986 says that was by far the worst.

 

So does that mean if we are up, for example, 3-0 again in the ALCS and you win 3 games, and then we win the seventh, you would count that as 3-1 in your favor, even though we won the series? Is this the math they teach in New England???

[jacksonianmarch]

Back to the games rather than the past. Today you guys get to watch and wait to see if your magic number drops. Should be a solid pitchers duel. Burnett dominated us last time out, but he is streaky and we dont typically get dominated by a pitcher two times in a row, especially when he has been seen recently.

[riverside sluggers]

To which years are you referring when you beat us in a game when you were on the brink of elimination other than 1978 and 2003... just curious. That's two games. We beat you in 4 straight games when we could have been eliminated. That's 4-2 in favor of the Red Sox in my lifetime. All baseball fans experience more losing than winning. Even the Yanks with the 26 Championships have lost more than they have won. I remember Yankee fans being very confident in 2006 when facing the sputtering Tiger team that really wasn't very good as it showed when it got trounced by a .500 NL team. That turned out really well for you didn't it.

 

Or facing the Florida Marlins in 2003, some 21 year old rookie named Josh Beckett led the way

 

Back to the games rather than the past. Today you guys get to watch and wait to see if your magic number drops. Should be a solid pitchers duel. Burnett dominated us last time out' date=' but he is streaky and we dont typically get dominated by a pitcher two times in a row, especially when he has been seen recently.[/quote']

 

He's streaky? Doesnt he have a crazy good 1.75 ERA in the 2nd half?

 

So does that mean if we are up' date=' for example, 3-0 again in the ALCS and you win 3 games, and then we win the seventh, you would count that as 3-1 in your favor, even though we won the series? Is this the math they teach in New England???[/quote']

 

What? Calm down troll. How do I respond... well you wouldnt see any uh Sox fans gloating about what the record was in the last 4 games if they still lose the ALCS... were you taught the laws of logic when you went to school