Brad lidge Boston-bound???

[zackredsox]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/thebuzz/

[CrespoBlows]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/thebuzz/

 

I've heard this rumor too many times to care.

[Mr Crunchy]

hes been a shell of himself since pujols abused him a few years back

he lost his closers job in the nl central?

we dont need another jonah with game 7 anxieties on this club

[ksushi]

Not true, 2.20 ERA in the set up role this year. I'll take it.

[BoSox21]

it would give us that righty set-up man we need but the price is gonna be high and who knows if he's even available

[schillingouttheks]

Lopez, Delcarmen, Donnelly, Okajima and Papelbon have all been pretty reliable for us this year. Adding Lidge in a non-closer role would definitely make me the most confident in our bullpen that I've been in a very long time.

[Mr Crunchy]

ya 225 era

what about inherited runners??

he lost the closers job because he couldnt do it

he got it back

1st game out he lost it again

 

the man is not to be trusted with a baseball in boston

i for 1 have no complaints or worries about our bullpen

not broke no need to f*** with it.

a reliable rh set up guy would be ideal

but mdc has been pretty good since hes been up,especially over the last week so i dont see us pulling the trigger for this guy based on his prior failures and our bullpens solid peformance.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

I really don't care if he can't close, because he won't have to here...

[ksushi]

I'd rather net a starting pitcher at this point, but if we had Lidge, Delcarmen, Okajima and Papelbon... in the playoffs the opponent basically has until the 7th inning to try to win a game and then its over... maybe even just the sixth. You shorten the game when you have dependable bullpen arms. I'd be ok with it.

[CrespoBlows]

Lidge LOB% is at 78.1%, which is a pretty solid ratio. (Mariano Rivera, the uber-clutch performer has a 71%.)

 

His periphial statistics are pretty good. The ERA might not be sustainable, due to the rather high WHIP of 1.28, but he's still striking out batters at a great rate.

 

Lidge won't come cheap, and really won't be a difference maker for the Red Sox. He'd be a great 7th/8th inning reliever, but I'm not entirely comfortable with a pitcher who's walking 1/2 a batter every inning.

 

Pass.

[MANNYHOF24]

Lidge LOB% is at 78.1%, which is a pretty solid ratio. (Mariano Rivera, the uber-clutch performer has a 71%.)

 

His periphial statistics are pretty good. The ERA might not be sustainable, due to the rather high WHIP of 1.28, but he's still striking out batters at a great rate.

 

Lidge won't come cheap, and really won't be a difference maker for the Red Sox. He'd be a great 7th/8th inning reliever, but I'm not entirely comfortable with a pitcher who's walking 1/2 a batter every inning.

 

Pass.

 

I would agree unless the Sox could some how get this guy for decent bargain price, which is unlikely to happen. I think he could solidify this bullpen as the best pen in baseball.

[a700hitter]

I would agree unless the Sox could some how get this guy for decent bargain price' date=' which is unlikely to happen. I think he could solidify this bullpen as the best pen in baseball.[/quote']

Add a bullpen arm like Lidge and a starter like Kevin Milwood, and this team would steam roll to the Championship.

[Cocos Disciples]

I'll pass on Millwood...

[a700hitter]

I'll pass on Millwood...

He can still pitch well, and he shouldn't cost much in the way of prospects.

[Cityofchampions33]

I'll pass on Millwood...

 

same

[a700hitter]

same

Other than Buehrle who the White Sox will most likely keep, which starters do you think will be available?

[CrespoBlows]

Add a bullpen arm like Lidge and a starter like Kevin Milwood' date=' and this team would steam roll to the Championship.[/quote']

 

Might be a decent buy low option, but he's got a $33 million tag on him for the next three years.

 

He's also got a 6.54 ERA.

[Cityofchampions33]

Other than Buehrle who the White Sox will most likely keep' date=' which starters do you think will be available?[/quote']

 

That's true, but then again we're not exactly in desperate need of a starter(Not saying you said we were). Millwood would certainly not be the worst thing in the world, and depending on Lester (who we shouldv'e tried out instead of Gabbard, as to see if we did need anotehr starter) he would be a very above average 4th/5th starter on this team. For me it all depends on the package leaving us, which I'm worried Texas would jack up. Millwood ahs not been by any stretch good at all, and unelss he continues his latest strecth of 3 starts (two of which are against evry good hititng teams) then I'd rather risk it on lester/tavarez

 

Maybe Moss/Murphy and Pauley would work?

[a700hitter]

That's true, but then again we're not exactly in desperate need of a starter(Not saying you said we were). Millwood would certainly not be the worst thing in the world, and depending on Lester (who we shouldv'e tried out instead of Gabbard, as to see if we did need anotehr starter) he would be a very above average 4th/5th starter on this team. For me it all depends on the package leaving us, which I'm worried Texas would jack up. Millwood ahs not been by any stretch good at all, and unelss he continues his latest strecth of 3 starts (two of which are against evry good hititng teams) then I'd rather risk it on lester/tavarez

 

Maybe Moss/Murphy and Pauley would work?

If the FO has hopes that lester can take them down the stretch, thaey had better get him up here soon to see if he can handle it before the deadline passes.

[Cityofchampions33]

If the FO has hopes that lester can take them down the stretch' date=' thaey had better get him up here soon to see if he can handle it before the deadline passes.[/quote']

 

something tells me they dont like what theyre seeing in him, it's taking too long to promote him. His pitch count is normal, he's been doing fine, and Tavarez has fallen down from his great stretch, and even if he didn't obviously wouldn't continue it in the 2nd half seeing as he wasn't exactly stretched out to be a full season starter in ST.

[Khan]

Way back in Spring Training "all" were all talking about how this team's weakness was the bullpen and the upside was the potent offense and starting rotation. Now the offense is in bad need of a viagra prescription, while the bullpen has been the saving grace. So how do we fix it ... go out and get another arm for the BP ... "BRILLIANT"!

[example1]

Add a bullpen arm like Lidge and a starter like Kevin Milwood' date=' and this team would steam roll to the Championship.[/quote']

 

Maybe Jeff Suppan or John Burkett are available as well?

 

I have never been very impressed with Milwood... I mean, if we got him for nothing it wouldn't really matter, but he just doesn't excite me. (I know Milwood is better than Suppan or Burkett, I'm just being an ass! )

[CrespoBlows]

Way back in Spring Training "all" were all talking about how this team's weakness was the bullpen and the upside was the potent offense and starting rotation. Now the offense is in bad need of a viagra prescription' date=' while the bullpen has been the saving grace. So how do we fix it ... go out and get another arm for the BP ... "BRILLIANT"![/quote']

 

The 8th and 9th innings are pretty much a slam dunk for the Red Sox, but I will continue to remain skeptical that our middle relief is this good.

 

Javier Lopez is strictly a specialist, Kyle Snyder has been surprisingly good, but I'm calling a fluke. Timlin and Pinerio suck, and should be used like they do.

 

Donnelly and Delcarmen could be an effective duo in front of Okajima and Papelbon, but both of them have question marks, as well.

 

I don't think a massive splash is needed in the bullpen, but we could use another arm.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/4968746.html

 

 

Who writes this s***? The Sox aren't going to trade their CF of the future for a headcase like Brad Lidge who wouldn't even be closing games. Get real. I'd like to bring Lidge in to eliminate our use of Timlin outside of mop-up roles, but he can't be the centerpiece of an Ellsbury trade.

[redsoxrules]

well first of all our bulpen is the least of our worries so i dont know why lidge is being talked about , our priority is a big bat and a starting pitcher .

[Khan]

Agreed, middle relievers are the bottom of the barrel anyway, and ours have not been bad. If you want to light a fire under this team's ass get a bat or a starter!

[example1]

If the Sox got Lidge they would be set with relievers for the forseeable future. We all know there will be a time when the Sox are looking for another shut down reliever, and at that time Lidge would look nice. 45 Ks in 33 IP would be nice.

 

It might seem confusing now, but I think the Sox are very likely still thinking about Papelbon being a starter. I don't remember the article I saw--it was either here or at soxprospects or SoSH--where one of the owners (I believe Werner) said that he liked looking down the road at a rotation of Beckett, Dice, Papelbon, Buchholz and Lester.

 

It is suprising at first, but think about it: it is easier to get a servicable closer (Todd Jones, Bob Wickman) than a dominant #2 starter. They will go after a number of veteran guys until they find a closer who fits. If that is next year, great; if it is the year after, that's fine too. They are safe keeping Papelbon as the closer if they have a deep pen with other guys to eat innings and squash rallies. Papelbon won't come anywhere close to the wear-and-tear other players his age--Dice and Beckett included--are accumulating.

 

EDIT: Oops, also, I forgot to mention that Ellsbury is too much to give up in a deal for Lidge. Lidge isn't enough of a sure thing to deal away the relative certainty that Ellsbury will contribute to some offense and defense for many years.

[ksushi]

I like the lidge rumors for one reason: we are talking to houston. How often are there rumors of two teams talking and the media turns out is only getting word of part of the deal, or the wrong players completely. I love that we are talking to Houston and I agree that Ellsbury is too much for Lidge, but Ellsbury and some more prospects would be fine for say... Oswalt? Ells, Bowden, Hansen and Lowrie for Oswalt!!! I'm hitting the campaign trail.

[jacksonianmarch]

If you think a guy like Lidge who has rebounded this season, is coming cheap, they you are smoking something. Last yr was the yr to get him. This yr, it will cost a high level prospect.

[example1]

I like the lidge rumors for one reason: we are talking to houston. How often are there rumors of two teams talking and the media turns out is only getting word of part of the deal' date=' or the wrong players completely. I love that we are talking to Houston and I agree that Ellsbury is too much for Lidge, but Ellsbury and some more prospects would be fine for say... Oswalt? Ells, Bowden, Hansen and Lowrie for Oswalt!!! I'm hitting the campaign trail.[/quote']

 

There is concern about Oswalt's declining K rates. He is still a top-tier pitcher in baseball, and any team that got him would get a few pretty strong seasons from him. He is the type of pitcher this team would love to add in terms of his level of dominance and overall value. I could see parting with Ellsbury for him, but Bowden, Hansen and Lowrie could be a bit m uch. We are all seeing what MDC is doing, and Hansen has similarly impressive stuff at his core. Bowden is potentially a very solid starter. Ellsbury is a potential all-star. I don't know... if Oswalt were 3 years younger then I would happily trade that.