Nick Hagadone

[Rdsxmbnt]

Red Sox first pick of the 2007 draft and #55 overall

 

Info from Soxprospects.com

Age: 21

Born: January 1, 1986

Sumner, WA

Height: 6-5

Weight: 230

Bats: Left

Throws: Left

Drafted: 1st round, 2007; 36th round, 2004 by SEA

How Acquired: Draft

College: Washington

High School: Sumner (WA)

ETA: 2011

 

Scouting Report: Big lefty closer whose fastball sits in the low 90s and tops out around 95 mph with good movement. Also mixes in a plus biting slider that he uses as his out pitch, a work-in-progress changeup, and is working on developing a splitter. Good control. Team leader and a hard worker. Could work as a starter if he can improve his changeup. Not a lot of miles on his arm.

 

He's agreed to a $571,000 signing bonus and is said to be headed to Lowell. He'll be interesting to follow, was a CL last year and is being converted into a SP. Throws low to mid 90's topping out at 95. Is left-handed and has a plus slider. His fastball is already above average and his changeup has above average potential also.

[jacksonianmarch]

Red Sox first pick of the 2007 draft and #55 overall

 

Info from Soxprospects.com

 

 

He's agreed to a $571,000 signing bonus and is said to be headed to Lowell. He'll be interesting to follow, was a CL last year and is being converted into a SP. Throws low to mid 90's topping out at 95. Is left-handed and has a plus slider. His fastball is already above average and his changeup has above average potential also.

 

His FB topping out at 95 is a bit generous. Most scouting sites say he'll sit in the 90-91 range and top out at 93.

[ORS]

BA is biggest, best, and consistently most objective.

 

Nick Hagadone

 

Hagadone was a big-bodied lefthander with a low- to mid-80s fastball and solid breaking ball his first two seasons at Washington, and he entered the 2007 season as the Huskies' Friday starter despite having made just five career starts. He has dramatically increased his arm strength and velocity, as his physical ability and improved mechanics came together perfectly. Coach Ken Knudson moved Hagadone back to the bullpen after two starts, and his velocity jumped, as did his performance (1.88 ERA, 10 saves). Hagadone was throwing in the 90-93 mph range and had several outings when he hit 94-95 mph repeatedly. He also features a power slider that's at least an average pitch. While his delivery isn't textbook and his fastball tends to flatten out, he's deceptive, keeps the ball down (one home run allowed) and has some feel for pitching. His changeup also has average potential, and Hagadone likely will be given a chance to start in pro ball.

 

Pinstripes Propaganda Plus doesn't seem like a worthy investment. I'd go with a scouting site that has no affiliation.

[jacksonianmarch]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2007/07/19/lugo_not_likely_in_leading_role/?page=2

 

he got ripped in his first outing.

[Rdsxmbnt]

better 2nd outing, 2 IP, 0 hits, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K

[Rdsxmbnt]

2 IP, 1 hit, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K

[Rdsxmbnt]

2 IP: 2 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K

 

since his first start: 6 IP, 3 hits, 0 ER, 2 BB, 8 K

[Rdsxmbnt]

2 IP, 0 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K

 

since his first start: 8 IP, 3 hits, 0 ER, 2 BB, 11 K

[ORS]

I wonder if they are going to keep him on a 2-inning leash for the rest of the year. I would imagine so since he was relieving in college.

[carltonfiskga]

I wonder if they are going to keep him on a 2-inning leash for the rest of the year. I would imagine so since he was relieving in college.

 

The sox usually put that restriction on pitchers they draft from colleges and assign to Lowell whether they are a reliever or starter. They purposely limit their innings. The next year they work towards building up their innings through full season A ball.

[jacksonianmarch]

ORS is right on. The kid was a reliever in college, and this is the end pretty much of his first half season as a pro. He isnt stretched out and stretching him out right now is useless. So keep him on the 2IP schedule and build his endurance next season.

 

Also, not sure if this is how the sox do it, but the yankees typically leave their drafted pitchers on the exact same schedule and do not touch their mechanics for 30 days after they sign. After that they will tinker with the mechanics yet keep them on a similar pitch count that they were on in college/HS. It seems like a solid approach and may be how the sox do it since Hagadone has started a bit slow and has come on recently.

[Rdsxmbnt]

3 IP, 0 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K

 

since his first start: 11 IP, 3 hits, 0 ER, 2 BB, 14 K

[Rdsxmbnt]

3 IP, 1 hit, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K

 

since first start: 14 IP, 4 hits, 0 ER, 3 BB, 17 K

 

nice.

[Cityofchampions33]

3 IP, 1 hit, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K

 

since first start: 14 IP, 4 hits, 0 ER, 3 BB, 17 K

 

nice.

 

very nice indeed

[Rdsxmbnt]

tack on 3 more scoreless innings: 3 IP, 2 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K

 

Since first outing: 17 IP, 6 hits, 0 ER, 3 BB, 21 K

[jacksonianmarch]

I wonder what his future is. He is very effective in short bursts. He might be one hell of a reliever and could be on the fast track if he is kept as one.

[Rdsxmbnt]

cem21/temple from soxprospects charted Hagadone tonight, and he consistently hit 93-95 throughout his 3 innings of work, once touching 96

[Sinistas]

I wonder what his future is. He is very effective in short bursts. He might be one hell of a reliever and could be on the fast track if he is kept as one.

 

I believe they're keeping his innings limited for the rest of the year, and then he'll be starting next season.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Back on August 31st: 3 IP, 1 hit, 0 ER, 3 BB, 5 K. Trio of walks but some good strikeout numbers and still no ER.

 

Since his first outing: 20 IP, 7 hits, 0 ER, 6 BB, 26 K

[UC9904]

He also reportedly hit 97-98 mph on the Lowell radar gun. Even if the gun is 1-2 mph fast, that still means he was hitting mid 90's with his fastball while pitching multiple inning. As a lefty.

 

If Hagadone can improve upon his changeup--which supposedly has the potential to become a plus pitch--to go along with his fastball (which he spots pretty well) and his already plus slider then we could be talking about a special special prospect. While he has a loonnggg way to go, the upside of Hagadone--whether it be as a starter or reliever--is looking terrific right about now.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Hagadone with possibly his best outing yet: 3 IP, 1 hit, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K

 

Since first outing: 23 IP, 8 hits, 0 ER, 7 BB, 32 K

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Is this kid in the mold of a Scott Kazmir for anyone thats scene him?

 

I hear mid-90s fastball and a power slider. If thats te case and he keeps the ball down with consistent control then I really like what we have.

 

Again for anyone that has scene him, how is his delivery?....3-quarter delivery, high kick, comparison maybe?

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Hagadone owns...

 

5.0 inning, 2 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K

 

...honestly I think this kid should be in AA and Masterson should be in AAA

[rician blast]

Is this kid in the mold of a Scott Kazmir for anyone thats scene him?

 

I hear mid-90s fastball and a power slider. If thats te case and he keeps the ball down with consistent control then I really like what we have.

 

Again for anyone that has scene him, how is his delivery?....3-quarter delivery, high kick, comparison maybe?

 

I haven't scene him at all.

[jacksonianmarch]

Hagadone owns...

 

5.0 inning, 2 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K

 

...honestly I think this kid should be in AA and Masterson should be in AAA

 

If you want Hagadone and Masterson to be groomed as starters, they will need to take it one step at a time. If you want them in your pen, Masterson might be ready by the end of the yr and Hagadone by midyear next yr.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

If you want Hagadone and Masterson to be groomed as starters' date=' they will need to take it one step at a time. If you want them in your pen, Masterson might be ready by the end of the yr and Hagadone by midyear next yr.[/quote']

 

That is true but I see no reason why both players couldn't take their first steps in the majors as relievers. Plenty of teams bring there kids up in the pen then move them to the rotation. We almost did it with Papelbon, the Yanks plan on doing it with Joba, the Twins did it with Santana and Liriano, the Guardians did it with Carmona, etc etc etc.

 

I guess its premature to do what I suggest but I'm pretty sure both players will make a jump (if not a few levels) sometime this season.

 

Also keep an eye on Daniel Bard...he's been dominate thus far as a reliever.

[ORS]

Bard is in A ball. I think the guy responsible for this line in Pawtucket should get a look as immediate help before we mess with the development of Masterson and Hagadone, or look at Bard seriously.

 

4 G, 7.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 8 K

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Bard is in A ball. I think the guy responsible for this line in Pawtucket should get a look as immediate help before we mess with the development of Masterson and Hagadone, or look at Bard seriously.

 

4 G, 7.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 8 K

 

Agreed Craig Hansen gets the first look. Also I wasn't talking about Bard going to Boston...just keep an eye on him cause he's starting to put himself together. A message for all those who wrote him off as a bust.

[BSN07]

Hagadone owns...

 

5.0 inning, 2 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K

 

...honestly I think this kid should be in AA and Masterson should be in AAA

 

Theres no reason to rush these guys. The Sox rotation and BP is pretty much filled up at this point for the forseable future. You could move them up, but there going to be blocked eventually. Let these guys marinate where there at, let them become absolutely dominate at there respective levels, polish the secondary pitches and gain confidence. So when they do hit the next level, theres a few less bumps in the road.

 

Besides let them pad there stas, if the Sox decide to trade them, they will probably bring more back LOL

[jacksonianmarch]

Hagadone was removed from last nights game with a sore arm.