Is JD's quad injury serious?

[RedSoxRooter]

I mean from here on out' date=' does his career point him towards a .240 hitter or better?[/quote']

 

That's the way I look at it too. I also look at it from a simple upgrade situation. Call the hit or miss of both Trot or Drew getting injured a wash. It's too early to tell right now - just like all the numbers. Weren't we used to Trot sitting out every time a lefty faced us anyway?

 

But that aside, Drew has already put up a better season than Trot did in 2004. He needs 2 more HRs and 20 more RBI to put in a better season than Trot did in 2006. And if what we've seen so far is what he will be all year - highly doubtfully - then he'll put up better numbers than Trot did in 2005.

 

And he's having a better year than Trot is this year as well.

 

The defense is a draw. What JD doesn't do is face plant for a catch. That's probably because he's a lot faster than Trot. Oh, and Drew can steal some bags too. And he walks enough so that his OBP is good too.

 

Does being better than Trot Nixon mean you're worth 14 million, no. But it's an upgrade any way you look at it. Even as of today. So for that I say the Sox made a good move. We are better in RF than we have been since 2003 - even with Drew struggling.

 

Imagine what the upgrade will be when he's not struggling. And if you want to go by history, he hasn't had bad back to back years in his entire career, so it's just a matter of time before he puts it all back together again.

 

The same cannot be said for Trotsky.

[MANNYHOF24]

It points to a stint on the DL if you look at his career numbers.

 

Freak injuries. The worst injuries of his career have not been chronic aliments rather like I said before freak injuries.

[Metropolitan Cowboy]

Freak injuries. The worst injuries of his career have not been chronic aliments rather like I said before freak injuries.

 

Then why was his signing held up to protect the Sox if his shoulder turns into pudding? He has chronic aliments. Hell his shoulder, and knee are arthritic and last I checked there are no cures for that, he is going to have to tough it out and play through the pain.

[MANNYHOF24]

Then why was his signing held up to protect the Sox if his shoulder turns into pudding? He has chronic aliments. Hell his shoulder' date=' and knee are arthritic and last I checked there are no cures for that, he is going to have to tough it out and play through the pain.[/quote']

 

True. However, we were discussing the injuries that have caused him to miss great lengths of the season. Those injuries were not chronic. I am thinking of the wrist and the fingers, those being the two major injuries of his career.

[Mr Crunchy]

everything hurts this guy

how does he walks into the dugout and makes eye contact with schillng and say??

i may have strained my quad but im not sure??

my hammy felt a twinge i better sit??

 

nfl guys who had great track careers,usually wide outs,often had these types of nagging injuries but thats a different mindset and a different arena

whiile bryan cox takes 2 tylenol and plays a week after a 12 inch rod was inserted in his fibia

reynaldo nehimiah would sit with a bruised calf and james jett couldnt go because of a strained hammy.....track mentality dictates you need to be 100% becuase 1/100th of a second is your career.....

did drew run track??

every ass ache or twinge shelves this guy

just last month he missed the yanks series becuase of some similar pain

i dont get it

he has to know of his rep in the business and how boston fans were skittish when he signed

i would think he would bust his balls and play thru this type of s*** just for the sake of his rep and to win over the new city which owns him for 40 more months

[Mr Crunchy]

just like Beckett got a pass last year for being an NL pitcher coming to the AL for the first time' date=' Drew deserves a grace period for being an NL hitter coming to the AL. Drew gets unnecessary flack cause of the contract he signed and because he started off so hot[/quote']

 

this is a decent point but the 2 men share different character traits

drew gets the flack because he was the golden child as a draft pick who said f/u to philly as a #1 pick forever giving him a reputation and his often injured status is legendary

 

josh becks beat the yanks in the bronx to win the world series

if he never did a thing in boston we would still love this guy

 

lindros did this in the nhl when he refused to go to quebec

every french player had a bead on his ass as well as every mucker who wanted to make a name for himself

 

elway did the same thing to the old colts in baltimore

outside denver he was hated till he eventually won over the public with his game

eli manning did it to the chargers and everyone outside ny wants him to fall on his ass

 

this type of behavior be it warranted or legit is scorned upon by the public and by the avg players,it appears selfish

 

this city saw mchale play an entire playoff round till game 6 of the finals with a 3 inch fracture in his foot

it saw steve grogan play with a fused spine and sit in the pocket till he found a target or get crushed

 

we had orr and neely and oreilly play with teeth in their pocket and thread hanging from their faces

 

schillings effort was God like in 04

lester has cancer for chrissakes

 

the tolerance for jd drews nagging injuries will last as long as they play 650 ball

if it effects the team they will turn

[BoSox21]

great points but I'm judging Drew based on what he's doing here and I've seen him full bore into the wall in right to try and steal a homer. it leads me to believe that the guy has some kind of competitive spirit in him

[Mr Crunchy]

WARNING

ESSAY TO FOLLOW

 

self respect and pride drive these guys to become superstars at the local level where they also have more natural talent than anyone in their county usually

success becomes addictive and then a way of life

the best pitchers who make AA ball say are generally stud hitters and all around great athletes in hischool.

 

anyways

you can put forth a great effort yet still be a lousy teamate if that makes sense

consider our man wade boggs

a guy who worked his way to the majors late in his 20s and forced us to dump the al batting champ carney lansford to make room for him

youd think that a career minor leaguer would be humble and a good clubhouse guy..

he was a lousy fielder when he broke in,he was very good when he left

boggs wasnt liked by the team and i got this from lou gorman at the big and tall store in framingham in 1987.

he demanded a scoring change in one of clemens starts at the end of the year(90-91?) reversing an error and giving the guy a hit

that move i believe cost clem the era title

boggs it was said couldve hit 30hrs a year but he wouldnt sacrifice his avg to hit for more power even if it helped the club.

for the record boggs was bawling like he lost his mother in the dugout in 86 after game 7

he did care but his attitude said otherwise

 

pete rose was a selfish **********

the reds used to pool the player of the game monies awarded and donate the cash to charity at the end of the year

rose ended that,he said im the player of the game 3 times a week

f*** you guys

as a rookie he was hated and when he finished 25 years later he was still hated

 

now these guys any team in baseball would take in a heartbeat

hallof famers and superstars all the way

*******s as well and not good teamates

sometimes i wonder if the superstar *******s are worth it

 

ask the patriots how they feel about individualism or how much of it they require.

 

a good football analogy is dan marino

the best arm and talent ive ever seen and a great competitor who hated losing

ever see how he looks at his left tackle after he got sacked??

or at his wideout who didnt come up with the ball??

that isnt leadership as much as it is being a f***ing jerk

marino went 15 year getting sacked less than any other qb but won nothing after his superbowl loss in 85 to joe montana

joe montana got knocked unconsious in giants stadium,broke his f***ing back and then led the 49ers to titles in 89-90 with 2 of the best teams in history

the #s say marino was the better but those of us who watched think otherwise

(joe had a better team for sure)

 

let me tread on hallowed ground here

yaz was the captain of the sox and THE man here for 20+ years.

he got gms and managers canned,players moved and it was his team

spring training time the guys would drink at the winter haven elks club

they refused entrance to tommy harper and i think maybe joe foy? or reggie smith??because they were black,this wasnt in the 50s this was 73-74??

(it wasnt george scott,no one would get that close to him)

now yaz shouldve walked out and wrote that place off as captain

yaz never did a thing or call out the elks or go elsewhere or make these black guys accepted,he did nothing and as the captain that was disgraceful

the sox ownership was as f***ing bigoted as lester maddoz or george wallace ever thought of being so it was ok and it was hushed up till the press got hold of it and even then no one called out yawkey when he was alive

 

if it was a cursed team it was on tom yawkey

he auditioned willie mays and jackie robinson i believe??

15 years later he signed pumpsie green,an amos look alike if there ever was

 

sorry about the novel

i got a lot to say about this subject

 

i want jd drew to throw a bat at the next pitcher who brushes manny back

i want him to break up 2ble plays with cleats high and i want him to play every day

you dont have to be a showman with the emotions but smile or scowl or show that youre not a cyborg but a guy who wants to win....

 

its a team game and the commitment must be shown consistantly i feel

if drew bats 265 and shows courage commitment and a desire to win we'll accept him here

if he leaves each game he gets a bruise it will be 4 years of hell for all

[yeszir]

That's the way I look at it too. I also look at it from a simple upgrade situation. Call the hit or miss of both Trot or Drew getting injured a wash. It's too early to tell right now - just like all the numbers. Weren't we used to Trot sitting out every time a lefty faced us anyway?

 

But that aside, Drew has already put up a better season than Trot did in 2004. He needs 2 more HRs and 20 more RBI to put in a better season than Trot did in 2006. And if what we've seen so far is what he will be all year - highly doubtfully - then he'll put up better numbers than Trot did in 2005.

 

And he's having a better year than Trot is this year as well.

 

The defense is a draw. What JD doesn't do is face plant for a catch. That's probably because he's a lot faster than Trot. Oh, and Drew can steal some bags too. And he walks enough so that his OBP is good too.

 

Does being better than Trot Nixon mean you're worth 14 million, no. But it's an upgrade any way you look at it. Even as of today. So for that I say the Sox made a good move. We are better in RF than we have been since 2003 - even with Drew struggling.

 

Imagine what the upgrade will be when he's not struggling. And if you want to go by history, he hasn't had bad back to back years in his entire career, so it's just a matter of time before he puts it all back together again.

 

The same cannot be said for Trotsky.

All valid points. I hadn't even thought about the Trot = death vs lefties problem. I've never been a fan of Trot, so I guess its not fair to compare, but I'd much rather have Drew, even with his shortcomings.

[Rdsxmbnt]

You are making wayyy to big a deal out of this. He was already 2-2 with a HR and a double and were up 7 runs, and if his quad is tight then take him out, its really not that big of a deal. Any injury that even could potentially be more than one game type injury than I see no problem at all not taking any chances. Drew is what he is. Hes not vocal, hes not critical of his teammates, hes just a quiet player, not everyone needs to be Kevin Millar or Curt Schilling. He's got a lot of talent and has produced in his career. Sorry if hes not one to charge the mound, but he cares, he wouldnt be as good a player as he is if he didnt care. Take Keith Foulke for example, he was more a hockey fan than baseball fan and we won a World Series in large part of him, as long as they produce I could care less if everyone is a 'dirt dog' or vocal, we have PLENTY of other players to fill that roll.

And I dont see how Philadelphia has anyone to blame but themselves for the way the Drew situation ended up. Drew and Boras wanted 10 mil, they told everyone that and the Phillies knew, yet they had no intentions to pay him that and drafted him anyway.

[Taliesin]

WARNING

ESSAY TO FOLLOW

 

self respect and pride drive these guys to become superstars at the local level where they also have more natural talent than anyone in their county usually

success becomes addictive and then a way of life

the best pitchers who make AA ball say are generally stud hitters and all around great athletes in hischool.

 

anyways

you can put forth a great effort yet still be a lousy teamate if that makes sense

consider our man wade boggs

a guy who worked his way to the majors late in his 20s and forced us to dump the al batting champ carney lansford to make room for him

youd think that a career minor leaguer would be humble and a good clubhouse guy..

he was a lousy fielder when he broke in,he was very good when he left

boggs wasnt liked by the team and i got this from lou gorman at the big and tall store in framingham in 1987.

he demanded a scoring change in one of clemens starts at the end of the year(90-91?) reversing an error and giving the guy a hit

that move i believe cost clem the era title

boggs it was said couldve hit 30hrs a year but he wouldnt sacrifice his avg to hit for more power even if it helped the club.

for the record boggs was bawling like he lost his mother in the dugout in 86 after game 7

he did care but his attitude said otherwise

 

pete rose was a selfish **********

the reds used to pool the player of the game monies awarded and donate the cash to charity at the end of the year

rose ended that,he said im the player of the game 3 times a week

f*** you guys

as a rookie he was hated and when he finished 25 years later he was still hated

 

now these guys any team in baseball would take in a heartbeat

hallof famers and superstars all the way

*******s as well and not good teamates

sometimes i wonder if the superstar *******s are worth it

 

ask the patriots how they feel about individualism or how much of it they require.

 

a good football analogy is dan marino

the best arm and talent ive ever seen and a great competitor who hated losing

ever see how he looks at his left tackle after he got sacked??

or at his wideout who didnt come up with the ball??

that isnt leadership as much as it is being a f***ing jerk

marino went 15 year getting sacked less than any other qb but won nothing after his superbowl loss in 85 to joe montana

joe montana got knocked unconsious in giants stadium,broke his f***ing back and then led the 49ers to titles in 89-90 with 2 of the best teams in history

the #s say marino was the better but those of us who watched think otherwise

(joe had a better team for sure)

 

let me tread on hallowed ground here

yaz was the captain of the sox and THE man here for 20+ years.

he got gms and managers canned,players moved and it was his team

spring training time the guys would drink at the winter haven elks club

they refused entrance to tommy harper and i think maybe joe foy? or reggie smith??because they were black,this wasnt in the 50s this was 73-74??

(it wasnt george scott,no one would get that close to him)

now yaz shouldve walked out and wrote that place off as captain

yaz never did a thing or call out the elks or go elsewhere or make these black guys accepted,he did nothing and as the captain that was disgraceful

the sox ownership was as f***ing bigoted as lester maddoz or george wallace ever thought of being so it was ok and it was hushed up till the press got hold of it and even then no one called out yawkey when he was alive

 

if it was a cursed team it was on tom yawkey

he auditioned willie mays and jackie robinson i believe??

15 years later he signed pumpsie green,an amos look alike if there ever was

 

sorry about the novel

i got a lot to say about this subject

 

i want jd drew to throw a bat at the next pitcher who brushes manny back

i want him to break up 2ble plays with cleats high and i want him to play every day

you dont have to be a showman with the emotions but smile or scowl or show that youre not a cyborg but a guy who wants to win....

 

its a team game and the commitment must be shown consistantly i feel

if drew bats 265 and shows courage commitment and a desire to win we'll accept him here

if he leaves each game he gets a bruise it will be 4 years of hell for all

 

SP, that was beautiful (and will likely go over the heads of 99.9 percent) and for the record you never have to post the disclaimer "essay to follow" because that's a given. First beers on me, one of these days in a seedy Portuguese bar (please refrain from Big Dan's comments those old enough to recall....00000001%)

 

I'll drag my sea captain out of the northern woods one of these days.

[See Red]

WARNING

ESSAY TO FOLLOW

 

self respect and pride drive these guys to become superstars at the local level where they also have more natural talent than anyone in their county usually

success becomes addictive and then a way of life

the best pitchers who make AA ball say are generally stud hitters and all around great athletes in hischool.

 

anyways

you can put forth a great effort yet still be a lousy teamate if that makes sense

consider our man wade boggs

a guy who worked his way to the majors late in his 20s and forced us to dump the al batting champ carney lansford to make room for him

youd think that a career minor leaguer would be humble and a good clubhouse guy..

he was a lousy fielder when he broke in,he was very good when he left

boggs wasnt liked by the team and i got this from lou gorman at the big and tall store in framingham in 1987.

he demanded a scoring change in one of clemens starts at the end of the year(90-91?) reversing an error and giving the guy a hit

that move i believe cost clem the era title

boggs it was said couldve hit 30hrs a year but he wouldnt sacrifice his avg to hit for more power even if it helped the club.

for the record boggs was bawling like he lost his mother in the dugout in 86 after game 7

he did care but his attitude said otherwise

 

pete rose was a selfish **********

the reds used to pool the player of the game monies awarded and donate the cash to charity at the end of the year

rose ended that,he said im the player of the game 3 times a week

f*** you guys

as a rookie he was hated and when he finished 25 years later he was still hated

 

now these guys any team in baseball would take in a heartbeat

hallof famers and superstars all the way

*******s as well and not good teamates

sometimes i wonder if the superstar *******s are worth it

 

ask the patriots how they feel about individualism or how much of it they require.

 

a good football analogy is dan marino

the best arm and talent ive ever seen and a great competitor who hated losing

ever see how he looks at his left tackle after he got sacked??

or at his wideout who didnt come up with the ball??

that isnt leadership as much as it is being a f***ing jerk

marino went 15 year getting sacked less than any other qb but won nothing after his superbowl loss in 85 to joe montana

joe montana got knocked unconsious in giants stadium,broke his f***ing back and then led the 49ers to titles in 89-90 with 2 of the best teams in history

the #s say marino was the better but those of us who watched think otherwise

(joe had a better team for sure)

 

let me tread on hallowed ground here

yaz was the captain of the sox and THE man here for 20+ years.

he got gms and managers canned,players moved and it was his team

spring training time the guys would drink at the winter haven elks club

they refused entrance to tommy harper and i think maybe joe foy? or reggie smith??because they were black,this wasnt in the 50s this was 73-74??

(it wasnt george scott,no one would get that close to him)

now yaz shouldve walked out and wrote that place off as captain

yaz never did a thing or call out the elks or go elsewhere or make these black guys accepted,he did nothing and as the captain that was disgraceful

the sox ownership was as f***ing bigoted as lester maddoz or george wallace ever thought of being so it was ok and it was hushed up till the press got hold of it and even then no one called out yawkey when he was alive

 

if it was a cursed team it was on tom yawkey

he auditioned willie mays and jackie robinson i believe??

15 years later he signed pumpsie green,an amos look alike if there ever was

 

sorry about the novel

i got a lot to say about this subject

 

i want jd drew to throw a bat at the next pitcher who brushes manny back

i want him to break up 2ble plays with cleats high and i want him to play every day

you dont have to be a showman with the emotions but smile or scowl or show that youre not a cyborg but a guy who wants to win....

 

its a team game and the commitment must be shown consistantly i feel

if drew bats 265 and shows courage commitment and a desire to win we'll accept him here

if he leaves each game he gets a bruise it will be 4 years of hell for all

 

Can we get a CliffsNotes version? Just kind of summing up what was said.

[Mr Crunchy]

tell him i was asking for his crusty ass

i miss the vocabulary lessons id get daily

that prick is one of about 3 who can level my karma in less than 10 words usually

[Mr Crunchy]

cliff version

sure

i think drew needs to play thru the tweaks and show us and his teamates hes here to win above and beyond anything

[See Red]

cliff version

sure

i think drew needs to play thru the tweaks and show us and his teamates hes here to win above and beyond anything

 

:lol:

 

Thanks. And I agree.

[a700hitter]

let me tread on hallowed ground here

yaz was the captain of the sox and THE man here for 20+ years.

he got gms and managers canned,players moved and it was his team

spring training time the guys would drink at the winter haven elks club

they refused entrance to tommy harper and i think maybe joe foy? or reggie smith??because they were black,this wasnt in the 50s this was 73-74??

(it wasnt george scott,no one would get that close to him)

now yaz shouldve walked out and wrote that place off as captain

yaz never did a thing or call out the elks or go elsewhere or make these black guys accepted,he did nothing and as the captain that was disgraceful

the sox ownership was as f***ing bigoted as lester maddoz or george wallace ever thought of being so it was ok and it was hushed up till the press got hold of it and even then no one called out yawkey when he was alive

...and Jackie Robinson used to get pissed because Campanella didn't stand up and protest. Does that mean that Campy was a disgrace. Some guys don't make waves. It's just not their personality to protest. From the people who I have spoken to that knew Yaz fairly well, he was very much introverted. That explains why he dropped from the public scene almost entirely when he retired. Also, I have never heard anything but positive things about Yaz from his African American and Latino team mates, and I am not talking about comments made for consumption by the press. The biggest criticism that you'll hear about Yaz is that he was a cheapskate and very moody when he wasn't hitting. Judging the guy's actions as disgraceful is unfair.

[Mr Crunchy]

as a captain you carry a responsibility to your team

can you imagine what went thru the guys minds when they were told sorry no colored allowed??

campy was 20-25 years prior

this was the mid 70s

as far as his latin and black teamates went

there werent all that many to comment

 

he was yawkeys boy he got dick williams s*** canned and as you said was introverted and a guy who kept to himself which is fine but doesnt bode well in the leadership area

do you think tek would say ""see ya at the park""if petey or ortiz or manny were barred from a club because of race??

i dont know but id like to think hed be behind his guys

 

the sox owners were the biggest donors and philanthropists in the game

they invented the jimmy fund and raised millions

 

it doesnt change his 1855 south carolina mentality however

yaz was yaz and as you pointed out

a guy who kept to himself and played the game like it should be played

 

but......

[a700hitter]

as a captain you carry a responsibility to your team

Yaz would be the first to tell you that he was not a good choice for captain. He never wanted it. The organization wanted it for him. He never held himself out as a leader in the clubhouse. On the field, he led by example. He worked harder than anyone, and he played hurt. The rumors of his influence with management regarding player moves is pretty baseless. Hell, he begged the Gerbil Zimmer to start Bill Lee against the Yankees in 78 instead of Bill Sprowl, and you know how that turned out. Dick Williams was fairly well despised by a lot of guys on that team, but challenging the team's biggest star was a fatal move. Yaz's status in the early 70's wasn't as secure as you think. He was almost traded to the Royals for Amos Otis. Yeah Yawkey loved him like a son, like he did with Ted Williams. Yawkey was very friendly with many of the players. He was always in the clubhouse chatting up the players. Yes, the Red Sox were late in embracing black players, but so were the Yankees. A lot probably had to do with the racial climate in Boston. They gave the fans the white team that they wanted and the fans got the crappy team they deserved. When the FO final turned that corner, they made bigger strides than the Yankees did in the 60's. The Red Sox became a contending team after bringing talent like Boomer Scott, Joy Foy, Reggie Smith to the majors in a 2 year period in 66-67. They also brought in veterans like Tartabull and Wyatt. In the late 60's and early 70's there was Ben Olgilvie and Cecil Cooper. In those years, they brought a treasure trove of talent to the big team and much of it was African American. These moves were not universally embraced by the fan population which remained very biased. I can remember going to games in the 70's where people in the Fenway crowd yelled "Pollack" at Yaz. You can blame Yawkey all you want and attribute it to his southern roots, but Boston was as intolerant as any southern city in lots of ways. It's unfair to lay it at the feet of one man who can't defend himself and who died in '76 when Boston was still having race riots over School Busing.

[schillingouttheks]

You could make a case that Boston was in fact WORSE than Southern cities. Blacks migrated here in bunches during the Civil Rights movement and that's when Northerners got their first real taste of what it was like to live with black people. Down south, the cities were already integrated and life with blacks was routine. For every bit of intolerance, there was also some tolerance to balance it out. Boston as a whole was a MESS around that time that you're talking about...you already mentioned the Boston Busing.

[riverside sluggers]

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=1007760

 

David Murphy will be called up for the San Diego series, He'll be sent down on Monday when they have decided who will be called up to start against seattle

[BoSox21]

I was gonna say, does that mean Drew is actually going on the DL for that thing?! then I saw the article said Murphy would take Schilling's roster spot

[Mr Crunchy]

7 lobs last nite in a 1 run game?

nice

 

this guy is just pathetic

[lasordas speed dial]

7 lobs last nite in a 1 run game?

nice

 

this guy is just pathetic

 

Heard.

[Metropolitan Cowboy]

7 lobs last nite in a 1 run game?

nice

 

this guy is just pathetic

 

 

so clutch

[Gibsons 67 World Series]

7 lobs last nite in a 1 run game?

nice

 

this guy is just pathetic

 

You'd think for the kind of bank J.D. pulls in, he could afford to pay someone to stand at the plate and be inept for him. That would also significantly lower the risk of him straining his vagina on the walks back to the dugout.

[BSN07]

You'd think for the kind of bank J.D. pulls in' date=' he could afford to pay someone to stand at the plate and be inept for him. That would also significantly lower the risk of him straining his vagina on the walks back to the dugout.[/quote']

 

 

 

Yes and how is your $40M track star? You would think for that kind of bank, Pierre would be able to take correct angles on fly balls, have the ability to throw it to second base without 2 hops, beable to make contact with the ball at the plate, have any kind of baseball skill other then speed......

 

 

Ya we spent more but atleast we have gotten some production out of our strangled vagina, all you got was a track star pretending to be a baseball player.<_>

[Mr Crunchy]

are you here to discuss the validity of jd drew or to discuss baseball or just bad business deals??

 

with jason schmidt and juan pierre on the l.a books the glass house and stones theory comes into play here...

 

we sit 10 up in the al east with our troubles

the dodgers got shut out in arizona last nite and are looking up at 2 teams in the nl west..

 

frank mccourt paying juan pierre that sick money started this s***

the cubs then got involved and the sox followed,rather foolishly but they followed none the less...

 

we're ok here

our problems dont come close to the dodgers problems

[Metropolitan Cowboy]

are you here to discuss the validity of jd drew or to discuss baseball or just bad business deals??

 

with jason schmidt and juan pierre on the l.a books the glass house and stones theory comes into play here...

 

we sit 10 up in the al east with our troubles

the dodgers got shut out in arizona last nite and are looking up at 2 teams in the nl west..

 

frank mccourt paying juan pierre that sick money started this s***

the cubs then got involved and the sox followed,rather foolishly but they followed none the less...

 

we're ok here

our problems dont come close to the dodgers problems

 

 

What does your problems have anything to do with the Dodgers problem? If your team has so much confidence in the Drew signing, why did it take so long to get the deal signed? The Sox knew what they were getting and they wanted protection. If you really want to compare what the Dodgers did with the Sox, there is one major difference, the Dodgers thought Schmidt was fine and is going to be our horse, and Juan looked like a good pickup considering Drew opting out at the last second. Now the Sox knew Drew needed to to sit whenever he gets that not so fresh feeling. The Red Sox gave Drew 70 million dollars thinking the deal may not be the best thing for the team.

[BoSox21]

and they protected themselves, way more than the Dodgers did with their iffy signings. smart move by Boston

[lasordas speed dial]

and they protected themselves' date=' way more than the Dodgers did with their iffy signings. smart move by Boston[/quote']

 

Lugo vs. Pierre? Edge: Dodgers

 

or

 

Schmidt vs. Drew? Edge: Tie

 

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