End of the Road for Timlin?

[SCM33]

At some point Jon Lester will return, and Tavarez will go to the bullpen....could this mean the end for Mike Timlin?

 

Joel Pineiro sucks.....and is worse than Timlin, but I dont see them cutting him with all the money he has on the table.

 

Javier Lopez IMO cannot be optioned out, hes done everything theyve asked and if a valuable arm outta the bullpen.....his value increases because we also have Okajima which means that TIto is better equipped to work righty lefty situations with two lefties down there.

 

Snyder is not going anywhere.

 

I guess Donnelly could be a choice to go, but even though he is hot and cold, hes done a pretty good job so far.

 

I guess what it comes down to is what have you done for me lately, and Mike Timlin really hasnt had any success at all this year. I would like to see him stay, but then again a few years back I wanted Embree to stay, and Theo made the correct move as he floundered in NY as well.

 

I know we will all sit here and say "Joel Pineiro is the one who must go", but im really not sure he goes.....either way, one of them could be playing some of their last games in a Sox uniform in the upcoming weeks.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

IMO, in a perfect world, Pineiro goes, and we call up MDC and DFA Timlin.

[schillingouttheks]

Call up Craig Breslow and DFA Timlin. I want to see more of him.

[jacksonianmarch]

IMO' date=' in a perfect world, Pineiro goes, and we call up MDC and DFA Timlin.[/quote']

 

I dont know why there is such a love affair with a kid who has proven time and time again that he just cannot get it done at the major league level. Delcarmen has one major league pitch, the fastball. Thats it. He has plus potential in his curve, but at what point do you say that the potential will never be reached. Plus, his control is awful. The guy isnt even getting it done in the minors, AND, you dont have the backup excuse that he was rushed, because he wasnt. MDC is a fringe guy until he proves otherwise, and to DFA someone on his behalf is a poor judgement IMO.

[jacksonianmarch]

Call up Craig Breslow and DFA Timlin. I want to see more of him.

 

That is an idea you can stick with. Good audition last yr (granted, a bit high on the WHIP) he is left handed, AND he is having some strong outings in AAA this season. If you want to plan around the lefty, then go ahead. But around a kid with nothing going for him (Delcarmen), that is sheer madness.

[Youk Of The Nation]

In discussing the bullpen, why the f*** did they DFA Romero instead of Pinerio? Romero sucked, but he sucked less.

[jacksonianmarch]

$$$$$$$

[BSN07]

Pinerio makes like 4M this season, Romero was far cheaper. Plus hes a LHP, they already had 3 LHP in the BP pitching good.

[jacksonianmarch]

Plus Romero had a WHIP at or near 2. As a reliever, that is putrid. As a semi-specialist, that is unacceptable.

[TGov]

I say DFA Timlin, trade Pineiro, bring up DCM or Breslow...

[HeadOfSoxNation]

I say DFA Timlin

 

I don't DFA Timlin...he's still good to have around on occasion...but he's got no business in the 8th inning anymore, and surely not the 9th on days when Paps isn't available.

[inkman]

What is all the love for "MDC" about? I effin hate that guy. Okay, so I don't hate him but he's shown nothing so far at the major league level to let me believe he'll ever get the job done.

[Fried Neckbones]

I don't DFA Timlin...he's still good to have around on occasion...but he's got no business in the 8th inning anymore' date=' and surely not the 9th on days when Paps isn't available.[/quote']

 

I agree, especially about the "never in the 9th" part. Okajima has shown he can give Paps the occassional save off.

 

Also, Timlin brings something of the "bullpen coach of the future" attitude with him. I know you don't want to clog a roster spot with a guy who can't really play any more (or at least does not look like he will ba able to) - but there is something to be said about teaching and coaching back there.

[adam123]

Timlin will always be one of my favorite guys. but I think its time to call it a career. Thanks Timlin for 2004. On a lighter note I met the man Dave Roberts on friday night on at AAA game .

What a guy. Totally Awesome.

[TheKilo]

In response to the thread question:

 

I hope so. I like Timlin, but he needs to adjust the fork in his back.

[jacksonianmarch]

at least he didnt get a knife in his back like everyone on Fire Theo's wishlist.

[SCM33]

Nice inning tonight (7/2)

[KeepTheFaith1229]

How do you like MDC now, bitchez? 2 runs in 7 innings, WHIP of one. lol

 

In response to the earlier posts, well, I think MDC can be solid in the majors. Last year on september 4th his ERA was 3.86. He was then analled in his next two appearances to the tune of 7 runs and finished the season with a 5.06 ERA. If it's not for that hiccup, you've got a solid relief pitcher, and especially for a rookie, a 3.86 ERA in the 2006 AL East I'll take any day.

[SCM33]

After another solid two innings the other day, maybe he does have a little left in the tank?

 

Thoughts?

[Khan]

I like Tima, simmilar to Eck. That is behind a desk, not the mound.

[MarkTaylor]

After another solid two innings the other day, maybe he does have a little left in the tank?

 

Thoughts?

 

i'd say he's on reserve and the low gas light has been on too long, at some point you run out of gas and he might be having one last sputter of gas

[SCM33]

Looked good again tonight 7/13

[jacksonianmarch]

Looked good again tonight 7/13

 

he's a veteran pitcher, he can still get outs. His arm is strong enough for short bursts. What he can no longer tolerate, is being leaned on like a mule. And you can bet that if MDC comes down to earth, that Timlin will be the prime 7th inning guy again, and he wont last long. He needs 2 appearances per week, just enough to keep him sharp, but not enough to overwork him.

[MANNYHOF24]

he's a veteran pitcher' date=' he can still get outs. His arm is strong enough for short bursts. What he can no longer tolerate, is being leaned on like a mule. And you can bet that if MDC comes down to earth, that Timlin will be the prime 7th inning guy again, and he wont last long. He needs 2 appearances per week, just enough to keep him sharp, but not enough to overwork him.[/quote']

 

I really doubt that MDC will fall off, he has the stuff to be a great setup man, and this year he is pounding the strikezone, I think he has just found confidence to go along with his tremedous arm.

[jacksonianmarch]

I really doubt that MDC will fall off' date=' he has the stuff to be a great setup man, and this year he is pounding the strikezone, I think he has just found confidence to go along with his tremedous arm.[/quote']

 

he has always had the power stuff. The big thing with a reliever is dealing with failure. They fly high when things go well, but have the propensity to fall off the wagon quickly as well. MDC was flying high last yr as well until he got brutalized and then lost all confidence. He should be okay for you guys, but if he gets hit hard in a game, he would bear some watching.

[schillingouttheks]

he has always had the power stuff. The big thing with a reliever is dealing with failure. They fly high when things go well' date=' but have the propensity to fall off the wagon quickly as well. MDC was flying high last yr as well until he got brutalized and then lost all confidence. He should be okay for you guys, but if he gets hit hard in a game, he would bear some watching.[/quote']

 

True, but I don't remember MDC ever having this kind of control. He fixed something and he's looking unhittable at some points. He always had the stuff, like you said, but the thing with him was his control. I'd say he's dealing with failure pretty well though. After starting to get rocked last year he went back down to AAA, fixed himself, and now he's coming up and just absolutely dealing.