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yankees228 Salem RidgeYaks

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Why is Abreu leadoff?

 

I don't get it either. Abreu having two hits last night should not all of a sudden make Torre think that he is going to bust out. With that being said, Torre doesn't have much to choose from without Damon in the lineup. He wants to let Jeter continue to hit in the two spot and he doesn't want Melky hitting leadoff. There are not too many options.

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Abreu's done it a few times. He can run and historically has a high OBP, two things you want in a leadoff hitter. If Damon's out of the lineup, Abreu makes sense. It's not like they're taking power out of the middle of the order.

 

In response to the Proctor thing, obviously headhunting is wrong. I think it's dirty and stupid. However, part of me was happy to see the Yankees finally stand up and throw some crap Boston's way. I don't have the exact numbers on me, but I remember hearing a statistic that said in this series in the last 5 years or so, Yankee players being HBP was almost twice as high as Boston players. Sox pitchers get away with throwing up and in to Jeter his whole career, it's nice to see that get sent the other way. Although I again, I think they had to do that to Ortiz or Ramirez to really get the message across.

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Abreu's done it a few times. He can run and historically has a high OBP' date=' two things you want in a leadoff hitter. If Damon's out of the lineup, Abreu makes sense. It's not like they're taking power out of the middle of the order.QUOTE']

 

I would rather see Jeter hitting leadoff. Historically, his numbers are really good hitting in the leadoff spot.

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I would rather see Jeter hitting leadoff. Historically' date=' his numbers are really good hitting in the leadoff spot.[/quote']

 

Jeter's numbers are good everywhere.

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Is that the official lineup? If so, I love that Tito moved up Pedroia. My only complaint would be putting Youk in the 5 spot. I don't like big OBP guys hitting behind sluggers, they belong in front of them. How much longer is Tito going to keep Lugo in the leadoff spot while his AVG and OBP just keeps going down. Lugo now has the LOWEST OBP out of our starters (.284). It's about time he either turns it up or is dropped in the lineup. You just can't have a guy like that in the top of the lineup. This being said, I really want Lugo to be successful, turn it up, and earn that leadoff spot. But if it doesnt start happening, you have to do what makes sense, and thats to drop him in the lineup.

 

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Abreu's done it a few times. He can run and historically has a high OBP, two things you want in a leadoff hitter. If Damon's out of the lineup, Abreu makes sense. It's not like they're taking power out of the middle of the order.

 

In response to the Proctor thing, obviously headhunting is wrong. I think it's dirty and stupid. However, part of me was happy to see the Yankees finally stand up and throw some crap Boston's way. I don't have the exact numbers on me, but I remember hearing a statistic that said in this series in the last 5 years or so, Yankee players being HBP was almost twice as high as Boston players. Sox pitchers get away with throwing up and in to Jeter his whole career, it's nice to see that get sent the other way. Although I again, I think they had to do that to Ortiz or Ramirez to really get the message across.

 

Jeter and Soriano account for a lot of those, I'm sure. They're both Carl Everett-like in that they are all over the plate. Petey threw up and in on them and hit them on the hands around the chest area.

 

Throwing at someone's head is NOT a good way to get a message across. Throw at their arm, hip, or leg. Not at their head. Pass that message along to Tony C.

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Is that the official lineup? If so' date=' I love that Tito moved up Pedroia. My only complaint would be putting Youk in the 5 spot. I don't like big OBP guys hitting behind sluggers, they belong in front of them. How much longer is Tito going to keep Lugo in the leadoff spot while his AVG and OBP just keeps going down.[/quote']

 

For the same reason he keeps Drew in the 5 spot. He wants to let them work it out and let them know he hasn't lost faith in them. But, at least you got your wish with Pedroia hitting ahead of Papi and Manny today. :thumbsup: I can agree that you like Pedroia up there, but as you know I'm a big advocate of balance throughout the lineup so Lugo would have to stay in the top 2 for me.

 

I have been thinking about Lugo and Crisp as 8/9 though. Despite how horrific it would be, the run production out of the 1-7 hitters could probably be enough to get us by with the worst 8/9 in the league.

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I have been thinking about Lugo and Crisp as 8/9 though. Despite how horrific it would be, the run production out of the 1-7 hitters could probably be enough to get us by with the worst 8/9 in the league.

 

I like it. Not only would it mean less at bats for them, it would put speed at the bottom of the order, which is always good to set up for the big bats.

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There we go. Nice stat Riverside.

 

Schiloutteks, I also want a ballanced lineup, but you can't have a guy who can't get on base in the top of the lineup. The whole point of putting guys in the top of the lineup is so that they will get the most plate appearances. Because you have the best 3 hitters in the 3-5 spot, you want the 1-2 spot to have guys who get on base, so your 3-5 can drive them in. If lugo was getting on base, I would be fine, but he isn't. I hope he picks it up and I don't mind Tito sticking with him, but when do you call it quits? Theres a point when you just have to make a move.

 

Yeas Coco, I like that too. All I care is to have Youk and another big OBP guy in the top of the lineup. Anyone who can get on base a lot is good for the top of the order.

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I don't mind Lugo in the leadoff spot, because his OBP is .351 at home, but Youkilis has nearly .100 points on him.

 

I like Youkilis/Pedroia in the 1/2 spots.

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In response to the Proctor thing' date=' obviously headhunting is wrong. I think it's dirty and stupid. However, part of me was happy to see the Yankees finally stand up and throw some crap Boston's way. I don't have the exact numbers on me, but I remember hearing a statistic that said in this series in the last 5 years or so, Yankee players being HBP was almost twice as high as Boston players. Sox pitchers get away with throwing up and in to Jeter his whole career, it's nice to see that get sent the other way. Although I again, I think they had to do that to Ortiz or Ramirez to really get the message across.[/quote']

ESPN ran the numbers after last nights game. Including the postseason matchups, Boston has hit 63 compared to 43 since 2003.

 

This is some really irresponsible reporting. Some players, due to their approach at the plate, have a tendancy to get HBP. If you look at the team totals over that timeframe, you'll see the Yankees hitters typically get hit about 20 more times per year. From 2003 on, including the postseason matchups, is about 100 games right now. Sure, it's a little higher than the 162 game average delta, but not out of this world higher.

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Sit down A-Rod. EARLY RUNS PLEASE.

 

McCarver is such an idiot. He was trying to describe how our "engaged fanbase" wasn't too mean to A-Rod last night but today's boos were a little more "acrimonious." We greet him the same way everytime, dickwad.

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Oh Jesus, Tavarez is doing the lineups.

 

Wow, and he isn't hamming it up. I'm surprised.

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