May 22nd @ New York

[TedWilliams101]

Crespblows? What about Giambi shooting up in the ondeck circle? Your right, nothing would have happened, other than a suspension from baseball and being arrested and charged with using an illegal substance...

[schillingouttheks]

Being showered with praise and adoration from loving fans, of course.

 

Although, sometimes it was death. RIP Ken.

 

I've always been amused by the San Diego fans that wear Caminiti jerseys and shout insults at Bonds' steroid usage.

[CrespoBlows]

Crespblows? What about Giambi shooting up in the ondeck circle? Your right' date=' nothing would have happened, other than a suspension from baseball and [b']being arrested and charged with using an illegal substance...[/b]

 

This would happen.

 

The other, legally, could not be enforced.

 

It was "illegal", but with no suspension put in place, what would happen?

[VA Sox Fan]

and now the game ends because of another s***** call. Fantastic. We have been f***ed by 2 obvious bad calls on steals of second. Time to get replay.

 

And, plus, you guys suck. That fact never helps.

[TedWilliams101]

I do believe that the drug war is a breach of our rights, but baseball has the right to do what ever it wants (so long as its not against the law) because it's a private business. If they wan't to ban illegal drugs, fine.

[schillingouttheks]

Wily Mo will be in RF tomorrow night. Not official, but anyone with a brain sees it happening.

[ORS]

Page 2 - steroids mentioned specifically.

 

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[VA Sox Fan]

I've always been amused by the San Diego fans that wear Caminiti jerseys and shout insults at Bonds' steroid usage.

 

...seriously

[riverside sluggers]

Drew dropping to the .230s now. He is a streaky hitter, but man what a cold streak this has been. Oh... happy 1000th career game, yea

[CrespoBlows]

Page 2 - steroids mentioned specifically.

 

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I don't see mention of a sentence for using the drugs.

 

Let's say the government banned alcohol, but had no punishment for committing the infraction. What exactly could they do about it?

 

Even if Giambi was caught in 2003, he still would have been allowed to play Game 7.

[TedWilliams101]

Wow, ORS really is nailing this s***. So steroids were explicitly banned from the 90s on. That pretty much destroy's your argument, Crespblows. Point, Giambi and other roids users cheated. I don't give a flying f*** if they admit it or not. They cheated.

[Cocos Disciples]

But Crespo is right. If there's no punishment, there's nothing they could do about it. So the Giambi HR's would have happened either way.

[CrespoBlows]

Wow' date=' ORS really is nailing this s***. So steroids were explicitly banned from the 90s on. That pretty much destroy's your argument, Crespblows. Point, Giambi and other roids users cheated. I don't give a flying f*** if they admit it or not. They cheated.[/quote']

 

They cheated, but they still would have been able to play that game.

[ORS]

I don't see mention of a sentence for using the drugs.

 

Let's say the government banned alcohol, but had no punishment for committing the infraction. What exactly could they do about it?

 

Even if Giambi was caught in 2003, he still would have been allowed to play Game 7.

First sentence, second paragraph, first page.

 

Like I said, it was more of statement than anything. Although, it did have teeth. It left adjudication in the hands of the commissioner, second paragraph again, but I don't think they intended it to be used.

[TheKilo]

SO that Lopez guy has done a decent job.

[Cocos Disciples]

Jima Time! Only 3 hits allowed in the game.

[TheKilo]

Why Okajima here? I'd go with MDC.

[BoSox21]

if MLB cared at all about catching steroid users, they couldve come up with whatever punishment they wanted since they're a banned substance. saying they couldn't do s*** cause there's no set punishment is a dumb argument

[TedWilliams101]

BUT, it explicitily says that if the individual caught using illegal drugs doesn't stop using drugs. So if they caught him and he continued use, then he would be "permanently removed from the game"

[schillingouttheks]

Tito has used Jima a lot...Delcarmen for the 9th please.

[CrespoBlows]

BUT' date=' it explicitily says that if the individual caught using illegal drugs doesn't stop using drugs. So if they caught him and he continued use, then he would be "permanently removed from the game"[/quote']

 

That was so set in stone, that they threw Mark McGwire out of the game for using steroids.

 

Oh, wait....

[BoSox21]

why does YES keep showing pitches from the backstop cam? f***ing *******s

[VA Sox Fan]

C'mon Oki!!!!!

[riverside sluggers]

Why Okajima here? I'd go with MDC.

 

Exactly, Okajima is Paps' main setup man... why use him in a 5 run lead when he has already been used so frequently?

[CrespoBlows]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/28/BAGL8N95J51.DTL

 

100 big leaguers tested positive. How many were suspended?

[VA Sox Fan]

why does YES keep showing pitches from the backstop cam? f***ing *******s

 

 

Because, like the Yankees, they suck!

[Taliesin]

And' date=' plus, you guys suck. That fact never helps.[/quote']

 

Pretty much sums it up. I don't even need 42 paragraphs to explain it. Or Baseball America stats.

[VA Sox Fan]

Exactly' date=' Okajima is Paps' main setup man... why use him in a 5 run lead when he has already been used so frequently?[/quote']

 

I don't think we'll see Paps tonight.

[schillingouttheks]

I don't think we'll see Paps tonight.

 

I don't think so either.

 

However, if we do, I want Tito's head on a platter by Thursday morning at 9:30am.

[TedWilliams101]

True on that. They should have gone to jail though, too bad the law doesn't apply to athletes...

 

Granted, I don't believe in criminalizing any substances that don't put others directly into harm (such as a ton of plutonium should be illegal)