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Stands for Fielding Independent Pitching. Basically measures how well the pitcher has actually pitched. Its actually quite accurate as many have come to find, and normally if a pitchers ERA is really high but his FIP is lower, the ERA tends to trend down towards the FIP figure and vice-versa. Shows pretty clearly here also in that chart. His ERA was quite high for a while and his FIP was much lower, and as you can see the chart his FIP is staying pretty consistent and his ERA is going down to meet that.

 

I've seen others make a Beckett chart from last year, and if you recall to the beginning of the year Beckett's ERA was quite good for a while, however his FIP was in the 5 range, and eventually that evened out. Ill put together a Beckett chart from last year.

 

EDIT: Here it is. All evens out in the end. This year though is a completely different story for Beckett, who actually is the AL leader in FIP.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c65/rdsxmbnt/beckett06.jpg

 

This is really fascinating stuff. Awesome post.

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seems he gets stronger each time out

this was an opinion many of the wise men sold this guy on

he gets better each time he gets the ball,more he sees a team the better he performs

i buy it

they had a japanese guy in eei's both last week on the holley show

he says dice mania has subsided and he actually said the japanese publc was a tad let down by this guys start??

granted

for a while hed give up a big inning each start but since i/league play the man has been a beast

ya tampa ya sandiego ya it hasnt exactly been the iron but its the consistancy that i feel matters here

his 1st 1/2 season has been a huge success for this front office and for this guys 1st trip around the league

i will be the 1st to admit my bigtime scepticism in our 9 figure investment and i based this on our previous eastern players as well as the other big time names who made the journey over here...nomo had a great start but never could maintain a consistant level of success,susuki,seattles 1 time closer had a great rookie year but eventually went back..

tomo okha

he of the 14-0 pawtucket start was moved for petey along with pavano and tony armas

i believe all 3 had roster spots this spring,10 years after the deal..

 

he did pitch for 10 years but never was more than a 4 guy in the nl.

then we had robinson"cy""checo,duquettes big time far east coup

he sucked

also

sunny kim,bunny kim,sang seoung and a cast of other guys who i consider failures here in the fens

i was leary to say the least but i freely and gleefully admit i was off and wrong in my initial opinion of this man and so far hes been better than i could possibly expect and i suspect his 2nd half will make theo et.al look like fukin geniouses....

 

kick in the performance of the middle man oj and we are farting thru japanese silk with these 2 pickups

meanwhile

the yanks are using kei ""dr han dear brother numpsie has forgiven me"" igawa and gotta be let down by his suck ass effort so far....irabu is cy young compared to this guy

 

dice k

as a business move it was a huge coupe but competetively it has been just as good if not better

how do the nintendo crew in seattle let this happen??

 

many,almost all respected baseball men had dice k as the best available arm in the market last year...again this is a dangerous and expensive lesson to learn 1st hand..

 

with seattles edge and nys market i wouldve bet a fortune he wouldnt end here

thank God i was wrong and the f/o did what it took to land him here...

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seems he gets stronger each time out

this was an opinion many of the wise men sold this guy on

he gets better each time he gets the ball,more he sees a team the better he performs

i buy it

they had a japanese guy in eei's both last week on the holley show

he says dice mania has subsided and he actually said the japanese publc was a tad let down by this guys start??

granted

for a while hed give up a big inning each start but since i/league play the man has been a beast

ya tampa ya sandiego ya it hasnt exactly been the iron but its the consistancy that i feel matters here

his 1st 1/2 season has been a huge success for this front office and for this guys 1st trip around the league

i will be the 1st to admit my bigtime scepticism in our 9 figure investment and i based this on our previous eastern players as well as the other big time names who made the journey over here...nomo had a great start but never could maintain a consistant level of success,susuki,seattles 1 time closer had a great rookie year but eventually went back..

tomo okha

he of the 14-0 pawtucket start was moved for petey along with pavano and tony armas

i believe all 3 had roster spots this spring,10 years after the deal..

 

he did pitch for 10 years but never was more than a 4 guy in the nl.

then we had robinson"cy""checo,duquettes big time far east coup

he sucked

also

sunny kim,bunny kim,sang seoung and a cast of other guys who i consider failures here in the fens

i was leary to say the least but i freely and gleefully admit i was off and wrong in my initial opinion of this man and so far hes been better than i could possibly expect and i suspect his 2nd half will make theo et.al look like fukin geniouses....

 

kick in the performance of the middle man oj and we are farting thru japanese silk with these 2 pickups

meanwhile

the yanks are using kei ""dr han dear brother numpsie has forgiven me"" igawa and gotta be let down by his suck ass effort so far....irabu is cy young compared to this guy

 

dice k

as a business move it was a huge coupe but competetively it has been just as good if not better

how do the nintendo crew in seattle let this happen??

 

many,almost all respected baseball men had dice k as the best available arm in the market last year...again this is a dangerous and expensive lesson to learn 1st hand..

 

with seattles edge and nys market i wouldve bet a fortune he wouldnt end here

thank God i was wrong and the f/o did what it took to land him here...

 

51.1 million dollars is how this was allowed to happen. They blew every other team out of the water and paid the rest of what Matsuzaka was worth in his contract. Absolutely brilliant move at the time, absolutely brilliant move now.

 

The plus/minus on the Matsuzaka deal is HUGE when comparing the Sox and Yankees. The Sox gain a pitcher who will be rookie of the year at this rate. The Yankees watch their rotation get older and have to settle for Igawa. And by "settle" I mean "throw money down the drain".

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tomo okha

he of the 14-0 pawtucket start was moved for petey along with pavano and tony armas

i believe all 3 had roster spots this spring,10 years after the deal..

Tomo Okha played with Pedro in NY. He was moved for inmate Ugie Urbina.
then we had robinson"cy""checo,duquettes big time far east coup

he sucked

:lol: I forgot about Robinson Checo. The FO had us all worked up about him. He was 1 and 3 for the Red Sox between 1997 and 98. They paid him nearly $1 million in 1997. What the F were they thinking.
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the business end of it was a no brainer

s***

on concessions and tv fees alone they'll get their initial investment back in the 1st year i would figure

(not too familiar with the tv money japan and the sox worked out but the yanks made a killing)

i just didnt expect this guy to walk into the heat of boston baseball with his entire nation watching him thru a microscope and redsox nations expectations in his face for 90 days before he even pitched and then perform as well as he has...

 

okha pavano and armas jr were dealt to the expos for petey.....in the fall of 97

the guy wer kept was brian rose who was the I/L pitcher of the year in 96 i believe??

in anycase he didnt win a game in boston and i think he ended up in colorado...

pavano was the key to this deal but the other 2 guys did ok for themselves over the years

never great or even good but just good enuff to hold a slot

anyways

the sox ownership group shocked me with their creativity and their commitment and with 19 different partners in the owers group i didnt see this coming and i think the rest of the league was just as blind sided as i was...

good

f***em

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