Sea Dogs '07

[ORS]

I like the idea of the team thread for the prospects. Much easier this way.

 

Through 5, tied 1-1

 

Buchholz 8K/1BB, 1ER, 3H (3.72 ERA on the season)

Lowrie 1/2, 1HR (.300 on the season)

Ellsbury 1-1, HBP (.414 on the season)

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

I like the idea of the team thread for the prospects. Much easier this way.

 

Through 5, tied 1-1

 

Buchholz 8K/1BB, 1ER, 3H (3.72 ERA on the season)

Lowrie 1/2, 1HR (.300 on the season)

Ellsbury 1-1, HBP (.414 on the season)

 

Ellsbury goes 3-3 and is hitting .452 (good god)

[jacksonianmarch]

time for a callup.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

time for a callup.

 

I bet you Coco Crisp couldn't hit .452 at AA....but we can wait since the team looks real good at the moment. No need to mix things up at the present time.

[example1]

I bet you Coco Crisp couldn't hit .452 at AA....but we can wait since the team looks real good at the moment. No need to mix things up at the present time.

 

There aren't enough players on this team yet to say they are looking real good. They were saved by Manny's shot tonight but their offense hasn't been 'dynamic' by any stretch. I'm not saying call Ellsbury up right away, but if Coco's still looking at mid-.200 I, for one, advocate it strongly. This kid is a tremendous athelete.

[jacksonianmarch]

I bet you Coco Crisp couldn't hit .452 at AA....but we can wait since the team looks real good at the moment. No need to mix things up at the present time.

 

to AAA at least.

[TGov]

I think a couple call ups will do a lot of good... it would bring something to the team, when players get called up, it's there chance so they give it all they got every night and it's nice to see that... I think that's why the Marlins did so well last year, they had a tun of fresh rookies waiting for there chance and they took full advantage of it... and they had 2 of the best/younger players to guide them along the way(Cabrera/Willis)

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

I think a couple call ups will do a lot of good... it would bring something to the team' date=' when players get called up, it's there chance so they give it all they got every night and it's nice to see that... I think that's why the Marlins did so well last year, they had a tun of fresh rookies waiting for there chance and they took full advantage of it... and they had 2 of the best/younger players to guide them along the way(Cabrera/Willis)[/quote']

 

I could be wrong but didn't Miguel Cabrera come up late in the season? I also recall K-Rod showing up late for the Angels when they won the World Series.

 

Maybe the thing to do is give the kids a long steady season in the minors and bring them up when they are comfortable and still a mystery in the majors.

 

Time will tell but I think you have to wait until the all-star break before deciding to make a drastic change before its absolutly necessary.

[jacksonianmarch]

right, but Frankie was filthy and Cabrera was all world talent. I dont think you should hinder Ellsbury while dealing with Cocout, but Ells isnt that kind of talent. You have just as much chance of him involuting and being poor as him catching fire. I'd still bring him up to AAA and see how he does there. And then bring him up to patrol CF. I think he will be good.

[TGov]

right' date=' but Frankie was filthy and Cabrera was all world talent. I dont think you should hinder Ellsbury while dealing with Cocout, but Ells isnt that kind of talent. You have just as much chance of him involuting and being poor as him catching fire. I'd still bring him up to AAA and see how he does there. And then bring him up to patrol CF. I think he will be good.[/quote']

 

I really think he should be brought up to AAA soon, I don't want them to rush him but they shouldn't hold him down too, if they're going by Coco being good or Ellsbury being ready i hope when Ellsbury is ready they say see ya to Coco... Well at least bring up Ellsbury and maybe platoon him with Coco to get him comfortable then let him take over... maybe trade Coco by the Deadline...

[example1]

In any case, I think it will be a big deal when this kid is brought up. He is likely the next great Red Sox homegrown talent and there is much about the kid that the faithful will appreciate. His speed, fielding and ability to get on base will make him exciting. I really think he can steal 40 bags if they let him run.

[ORS]

Ellsbury tonight

 

4-5, 1 2B, 2 3B, 2 R, 3 RBI

 

Ho hum...

[Rdsxmbnt]

meh

[example1]

Ellsbury tonight

 

4-5, 1 2B, 2 3B, 2 R, 3 RBI

 

Ho hum...

 

 

Jesus! (couldn't hit that well!)

[MANNYHOF24]

If Coco bounces back and has decent trade value, we can deal him and start Ellsbury at center in 08.

[example1]

I'm still in favor of having Coco as a 4th OF if necessary. I know its not what we got him for, but who cares? He's versatile and very useful as a switchhitting 3 position player with speed and, hopefully, a decent OBP guy.

[Cityofchampions33]

I'm still in favor of having Coco as a 4th OF if necessary. I know its not what we got him for' date=' but who cares? He's versatile and very useful as a switchhitting 3 position player with speed and, hopefully, a decent OBP guy.[/quote']

 

Agreed, not to mention he still has the talent (somewhere anyway) to hit .300 and hit a few dingers. However, no matter how he did this season I was in favor of Ellsbury in CF come '08. I don't know but seeing Coco out of the lead-off spot has added a level of annoyance for me, he just seems useless in the 8 hole and a waste of 600 ABs. I would almost rather see WMP in tehre and K 200 times, just because he woudl still hit 20 or so bombs. As for Jacoby he should definately be considered for AAA, he's on (A-ROD) fire right now.

[riverside sluggers]

I'm still in favor of having Coco as a 4th OF if necessary. I know its not what we got him for' date=' but who cares? He's versatile and very useful as a switchhitting 3 position player with speed and, hopefully, a decent OBP guy.[/quote']

 

Im still under the camp that whose to say Coco will say ok so willingly to being demoted to a bench role? If Coco is the 4th OF next year, I would imagine that the Sox will be packing Wily Mo's bags for the road then

[ORS]

Mantinee game today. Through 4....

 

Ellsbury: 1/2, 1 BB, 1 RBI, 1 SB, 1 CS

Lowrie: 0/1, 1 BB

[example1]

Im still under the camp that whose to say Coco will say ok so willingly to being demoted to a bench role? If Coco is the 4th OF next year' date=' I would imagine that the Sox will be packing Wily Mo's bags for the road then[/quote']

 

 

I guess I don't care if Coco doesn't like a 4th OF role, first of all. Second, I don't think anyone would like being demoted. And finally, is there any reason to think he would be any more or less likely to take it 'like a man' than any other player? The Red Sox are his employers. That's that.

[riverside sluggers]

Tell that to Jay Payton. Now Im not saying he's going to get in Tito's face like Payton did in Texas... but Im just thinking say if is able to rebound to a Cleveland like season (.300 avg, 15 +/- HRs, 60+ RBIs, 25 +/- SBs), should the Sox shy away from lower market teams offering intriguing trades?

[example1]

Tell that to Jay Payton. Now Im not saying he's going to get in Tito's face like Payton did in Texas... but Im just thinking say if is able to rebound to a Cleveland like season (.300 avg' date=' 15 +/- HRs, 60+ RBIs, 25 +/- SBs), should the Sox shy away from lower market teams offering intriguing trades?[/quote']

 

I don't get the sense that the sox take very many players off the table ever. I imagine if a good offer came for Ellsbury they would be listening (you know, we always mention Miguel Cabrera).

 

There's just a certain amount of professionalism I expect from these guys, and while there are Jay Payton's out there I don't get the sense that Crisp has quite the ego of Payton.