Yankees rotation

[jacksonianmarch]

13th @OAK Igawa

14th @OAK Rasner

15th @OAK Pettitte

16th OFF

17th CLE Pavano

18th CLE Igawa

19th CLE Rasner

20th @BOS Pettitte

21st @BOS Mussina or Karstens

22nd @BOS Pavano

 

Apparently Jeff Karstens is doing very well in recovering from elbow stiffness and would be the replacement for Mussina in Boston on the 21st if he cannot go. The easiest roster scenario at that point would be Mussina to the DL and Karstens off the DL if Moose cannot make that start.

 

As for the 22nd, if Mussina is able to go against the sox on the 21st, then Karstens would likely get the start unless Wang comes back. If Karstens nor Wang are ready then the yankees would throw Rasner.

 

The big issue comes in if Mussina needs the DL, if Wang cannot go until the last week of april and if Karstens has a setback. That puts Rasner in the April 22nd slot and an open April 21st slot likely filled by Sean Henn.

 

The good news is, that if all goes according to plan, the yankees should have a rotation of Wang, Igawa and Pettitte facing Boston in Yankee stadium.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

What will the Red Sox roation be at fenway(against the yanks) and at yankee stadium?

[jacksonianmarch]

all I know is DiceK in 2 of those games, gimme a sec.

[jacksonianmarch]

Beckett, Tavarez and Matsuzaka in Fenway

 

Matsuzaka, Wakefield, Schilling in the Bronx

[Gom]

I think, with the rotation injuries the Yankees have had, and probably will continue to have, that Jacko is pitching the opening game at Fenway, and I'm pitching the last game. Tell David Ortiz to watch out for my Tadziki ball [my counter to Matsuzaka's Gyro ball].

[rician blast]

I think' date=' with the rotation injuries the Yankees have had, and probably will continue to have, that Jacko is pitching the opening game at Fenway, and I'm pitching the last game. Tell David Ortiz to watch out for my Tadziki ball [my counter to Matsuzaka's Gyro ball'].

 

 

nice Gom.

 

Personally my Mousaka ball is my meat and potatos pitch.

 

I've also bean working on my Fasolada ball. I throw it mostly during Lent.

[Gom]

nice Gom.

 

Personally my Mousaka ball is my meat and potatos pitch.

 

I've also bean working on my Fasolada ball. I throw it mostly during Lent.

 

This could get ugly. :thumbsup:

[ORS]

Moose kaka?

[jacksonianmarch]

I think' date=' with the rotation injuries the Yankees have had, and probably will continue to have, that Jacko is pitching the opening game at Fenway, and I'm pitching the last game. Tell David Ortiz to watch out for my Tadziki ball [my counter to Matsuzaka's Gyro ball'].

 

I'll give it a whirl. Havent pitched in a few yrs, but I used to throw hard. Unfortunately every time I throw anything these days I hear a crunch in my shoulder. That can't be good. I could probably give a few more innings than the Moose though. High heat with no idea where it is going all day long!!!

[jacksonianmarch]

take note of my edit. Joe decided to switch Rasner to tomorrow and move Pavano back so he will be in line to start vs the sox. Lovely.

[yankees228]

take note of my edit. Joe decided to switch Rasner to tomorrow and move Pavano back so he will be in line to start vs the sox. Lovely.

 

I didn't hear Joe on Mike and the Maddog (not sure if that's what you're referring to), but someone that did hear him told me that the reason Pavano's start was pushed back because he had a slight injury in his lower arm. Not sure which one it is.

[jacksonianmarch]

more injuries. Fanf***ingtastic

[schillingouttheks]

You don't even know what it's like to have rotation injuries <_>

[jacksonianmarch]

You don't even know what it's like to have rotation injuries <_>

 

2005 anyone? When Mussina, Wang, Wright, Pavano, were on the DL and Johnson missed a couple starts?

[schillingouttheks]

I was being sarcastic. But I was letting out a little more frustration about the end of last season too.

[yankees228]

I was being sarcastic. But I was letting out a little more frustration about the end of last season too.

 

Definitely better to have them earlier then later.

[jacksonianmarch]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2836852

 

Wang will throw a rehab start on Sat., Karstens on Monday.

[yankees228]

The news seems all positive, for the most part. Hopefully the Pavano thing isn't anymore than it appears, when it comes to him I'll always be a bit skeptical.

[schillingouttheks]

Definitely better to have them earlier then later.

 

Oh, no question. I said the same thing in another thread, I think. Besides, the Yankees always get off to a slow start so if they're going to lose games in April anyway, their starters might as well get injured now and lose with other scrubs out there.

[jacksonianmarch]

Thursday vs Toronto -- Phil Hughes

Friday vs Boston -- Andy Pettitte

Saturday vs Boston -- Igawa or Karstens

Sunday vs Boston -- Chien-Ming Wang

Monday OFF DAY

Tuesday @ Texas -- Mike Mussina

 

not too shabby. There is a possibility that Hughes could win a job this week if he pitches well, but chances are, he may return to AAA regardless. Otherwise, Igawa will reclaim his spot and Karstens will snag the open Pavano slot. One other possibility is Igawa going to AAA to work on his location, Karstens taking Igawa's slot and Hughes taking Pavano's slot.

 

In other news, Rick Suttcliffe is saying that Pavano told him he is done for the yr. Pavano has denied this and actually reported improvement in his last bullpen session 2 days ago. Either way, Suttcliffe could have conjectured it and been right. Not many are assuming Pavano is returning.

[Mr Crunchy]

not too shabby

how do you know?

igawa defines shabby,you need to face up to the fact that he sucks

pettite has been a solid 4earned guy,i'll give you that

wang tung was pulled after 87 pitches but threw well and mussina is always a candidate for a yeast infection

phil hughes??

if they thought he was ready he wouldve been up last week instead of that f*** bag chase wright who polluted the field for 2 starts.

he is the question that needs answering and i suspect there will be some learning curves that this man will endure before we annoint him to cooperstown wouldnt ya say??

 

the book is open here

[jacksonianmarch]

I agree, it aint perfect. But having our top 3 back is huge for us. Remember, we had Chase Wright starting FOR Wang and Mussina. Not alongside them. It wasnt like some s***** experiment with the 5 hole. He was pitching in the 1 slot. Igawa needs a minor league stint IMO. I love his offspeed stuff, but he is very inconsistent with it. In his 2 non-sucky starts, his era is 3.13. In his 2 awful starts his ERA is north of 13. That reaks of inconsistency. He may just get that too. If Karstens wins the 4 spot and Hughes throws well tonight, Igawa may be sent to the minors to fix a few things with the delivery.

[BSN07]

I heard on the radio this morning Hughes might only be up for 1 start, not sure if it is BS or not...

 

 

Edit: Igawa sucks... The minors won't cure the fact that all he has is off speed stuff... Cashman paid half the price for Igawa that we did for Dice-K, the only problem he is about an 1/8 of the pitcher...

[jacksonianmarch]

and as far a Hughes is concerned, I am not expecting him to be dominant off the bat. I just think he is the best option available at this point and bringing him up now is the best option. I dont think he will settle into the 1 hole in the rotation until next yr anyway or even the year after. Like I said before, I could see him as a 6IP per start, 4 something ERA guy right now which is all we need.

[jacksonianmarch]

I heard on the radio this morning Hughes might only be up for 1 start' date=' not sure if it is BS or not...[/quote']

 

that is how they are billing it right now. I think it really all depends on Saturday's start though. If Karstens/Igawa get rocked again, and Hughes pitches well tonight, I dont think you can hold him back much longer.

[Mr Crunchy]

igawa sucks

really,he sucks and i think youre being naive here

of course youve had to explain the likes of vasquez kevin browm jarret wright and carl pavano over the past few years

so i suspect you read from a script that starts

 

once upon a time....

 

meanwhile

kato jr is just unhittable for us

what a bonus hes been so far

[jacksonianmarch]

I heard on the radio this morning Hughes might only be up for 1 start, not sure if it is BS or not...

 

 

Edit: Igawa sucks... The minors won't cure the fact that all he has is off speed stuff... Cashman paid half the price for Igawa that we did for Dice-K, the only problem he is about an 1/8 of the pitcher...

 

I agree that he isnt Dice K. But you have to look at his stuff and say, well, he certainly COULD be a major league starter. His slurve and his changeup are very solid. But it is more a philosophical thing than anything else, and I think he will need some time to solve that. His track record says that he has good control. But he needs to start living down in the zone and not up at chest level. It may take awhile, but when watching him vs Wright, you can see how advanced Igawa is. Igawa just needs maybe a full season at AAA. But I wont write him off as a SP altogether.

[jacksonianmarch]

Either way, right now, Igawa is terrible and I'd rather see a kid like Karstens start. At least Karstens throws strikes when needed and for the most part, should be a decent #5 against teams that dont rake.

[ORS]

What's all this talk about NY pitching Hughes tonight? The weather forcast has it being overcast tonight, and if yesterday is any indicator, they'll call the game by 3 pm.

[jacksonianmarch]

What's all this talk about NY pitching Hughes tonight? The weather forcast has it being overcast tonight' date=' and if yesterday is any indicator, they'll call the game by 3 pm.[/quote']

 

I dont think they call this one. I think it is going to be a full house tonight to see the future of yankees baseball.